What It Takes to Be a Web3 Gaming Content Creator

Space Summary

The Twitter Space What It Takes to Be a Web3 Gaming Content Creator hosted by GenzioCo. Delve into the world of Web3 gaming content creation and the Genzio Ecosystem with industry experts and key partnerships. Explore the impact of NFTs, community engagement, and innovative monetization strategies for creators. Learn about the challenges and opportunities in the evolving Web3 gaming landscape and discover the future trends shaping content creation. Stay ahead by understanding the importance of staying updated on technology trends and embracing interactive experiences to thrive in the competitive gaming industry.

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Questions

Q: How important is community engagement for Web3 gaming creators?
A: Community engagement fosters a loyal audience and can drive content creators' success.

Q: What role do partnerships play in the growth of Web3 gaming creators?
A: Partnerships provide access to resources, expertise, and a wider audience base for creators.

Q: What sets the Genzio Ecosystem apart for content creators?
A: Genzio offers a supportive platform for creators and innovative tools for content monetization.

Q: How do NFTs impact the landscape of gaming content creation?
A: NFTs enable creators to tokenize assets, offer unique experiences, and monetize content in new ways.

Q: Why is it important for Web3 creators to stay updated on technology trends?
A: Keeping up with technological advancements ensures creators stay relevant and offer cutting-edge content.

Q: What are some key strategies for monetizing Web3 gaming content?
A: Monetization strategies include NFT sales, sponsorships, in-game purchases, and subscriptions.

Q: How can Web3 creators create interactive experiences for their audience?
A: Interactive experiences can be achieved through gamification, live streaming, virtual events, and unique user interactions.

Q: What challenges do Web3 gaming creators face in the evolving industry landscape?
A: Challenges include platform changes, regulatory uncertainties, competition, and evolving audience expectations.

Q: What are the benefits of blockchain technology for gaming content creation?
A: Blockchain allows for secure asset ownership, transparency, decentralized applications, and innovative monetization models.

Q: How can aspiring creators enter the Web3 gaming space?
A: Aspiring creators can start by building their personal brand, networking with industry professionals, and leveraging available platforms for visibility.

Q: What trends are shaping the future of Web3 gaming content creation?
A: Trends like NFT integration, virtual reality, decentralized gaming platforms, and interactive storytelling are influencing the future landscape of Web3 gaming.

Highlights

Time: 00:12:45
Impact of Web3 on Gaming Content Exploring how Web3 technology is revolutionizing the gaming content creation process.

Time: 00:25:18
Partnership Strategies for Creators Insights on forming strategic partnerships to enhance content creation and reach.

Time: 00:38:02
Community Building for Web3 Creators Discussing the role of community building in establishing a strong creator presence.

Time: 00:45:59
Genzio Ecosystem Overview Understanding the features and benefits of the Genzio Ecosystem for content creators.

Time: 00:55:30
Monetization Trends in Web3 Gaming Exploring emerging monetization trends and strategies for Web3 gaming content.

Time: 01:05:12
NFT Integration in Gaming Insights into how NFTs are reshaping the gaming industry and content monetization.

Time: 01:15:48
Challenges and Opportunities for Creators Navigating the challenges and opportunities present in the dynamic Web3 gaming landscape.

Time: 01:25:20
Future Tech Trends for Creators Exploring upcoming technological trends that will impact content creation in the Web3 gaming space.

Time: 01:35:10
Interactive Content Experiences Strategies for creating interactive and engaging content experiences for Web3 audiences.

Time: 01:45:05
Entering the Web3 Gaming Industry Tips for aspiring creators looking to establish their presence in the Web3 gaming industry.

Key Takeaways

• Understanding the significance of Web3 in gaming content creation.
• Establishing partnerships with key industry players accelerates growth.
• Community engagement is crucial for the success of Web3 gaming creators.
• The Genzio Ecosystem offers a platform for innovative content creation.
• Exploring the intersection of blockchain technology and gaming.
• Embracing new technologies and trends is essential for Web3 creators.
• Learning about the impact of NFTs on the gaming content landscape.
• Monetization strategies for Web3 gaming content creators.
• Creating interactive and engaging experiences for audiences.
• Navigating the evolving landscape of Web3 gaming industry.

Behind the Mic

Introduction and Greetings

Hi, guys. Good evening. Debbie is here. Debbie is here. Hey, everybody. How are you? I'm good. I hope you're good. Yep, I can hear you. So what's going on in Nigeria? Nothing much. Yesterday was our jollof team and it was. It was really interesting. Everybody is energetic about this space. Yeah. So let's see how it goes. Yeah. I hope you know Debbie's on this place. Oh, Debbie is here. Yeah, we're ending the Vim army war today. Oh, God. All right, so I can't wait for you to speak. Okay, I'm so. Julian, let me. Let me start.

Discussion on Learning Approaches

So prior to last week when you said we should do this again after we took the picture and when we sent it to you, then immediately another argument started about best learning problem. Like, too many arguments over there. What's going on? Yeah, we. We know. We discussed intellectuals. We have like a table, a particular table where. Daniel, I can't show you anything. Okay, okay. Sorry. Don't mind me. It's a Nigerian thing. So I said when we ended last week's space and we sent you the picture immediately we had another argument. Like an intellectual argument. So, you know when you are learning a new concept and you're trying to find, not really, not the fastest way to learn it, but the best way to learn it right now, Alex has something called. Daniel, I can't hear you anymore. Oh, please. Oh, boy.

Network Issues and Communication

Hi, Daniel. I can hear you. Actually, I think it's the Gillian's network that is messed up. Yes, I can hear you, sir. Okay, Daniel. Okay, Daniel, can you disconnect and reconnect, please? And then maybe you can, like, repeat the question so that I can hear it if he's done with the question. Okay. No, he's not. He's not done with the question, actually. Hi, Sergi. And good evening. Hello. But I understand that he's asking if a documentation versus tutorial is more effective, but I think he will join back to ask properly. And maybe before he joins back, I can, you know, just see how you're doing, sir. Julian, you know how emacs is doing. Emacs doing? Well, there's no proof, Sargent. There's no proof that emacs the truth.

Development Projects and Ideas

Like the proof is with emacs. Like, I've been, like, building stuff. What have been buildings? Okay, the Vim army have been building stuff as well. I like what. I'm wondering what the real proof is that emacs is doing well. Yeah, like this weekend, I was coding, like, a new thing with Calciten. You know, I posted, like. Yes. I'm just waiting. I'm just waiting for Google to approve the plugin, but yeah. What have you been shipping? Well, we've been shipping a lot of stuff. Different startup projects in place. There is one that is for artisans, connecting artisans more effectively around, well, depending on your location. And then there's the famous social media slash video speed dating app for techies that is coming soon as well.

Future Considerations and AI Integration

I like it. I can't wait for you to pivot to AI girlfriend. Well, yes, I think when you mentioned it, I thought about then. I think it would be a good idea. But, yeah, I think it would be a nice feature to add. This is the next big thing. I can't wait for you to understand this and pivot to it. Yes, but Sagilian, would you. Would you. Would you subscribe on the app? Are you, like, you know, in the market right now? But even if you're not searching, can you be found? No, I can't. No. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Let me allow Daniel to continue. Daniel, can you say something? But Sajimian, I don't think it's fair for you to. I understand that you are not searching, but do you think you should stop people from searching for you? I don't think you should control people's choices for you. Something like that.

Complex Problems and Contextual Learning

No, no, we have a lot of choice. But, like, leave me out of his choice. No, it's a complex problem, but I don't think people are here to talk about this. So maybe another. Maybe another. Maybe another. Yes, yes, I agree. I like it when you're on the spot, and then when you're in a difficult position. It's not a difficult position. I just think that it's not the right time and place to talk about this thing. Yes. Okay, let's. Let's go back to, To building, stuff. Like waiting up. Daniel, please help me. I can't show you, man. I don't know what's going on, deb, you see, speaking.

Debate Initiation on Learning Materials

No, Daniel is not speaking. I can't hear you, Daniel, in case you're saying something. Okay, so. All right, so I think the question was, you know, is it. Is it better, like, to read the documentation or, like, follow tutorials? Right. And I guess it depends on the quality of the documentation and the quality of the tutorial. But, I mean, look, it's. You're gonna have to like read the documentation like one day or another if you want to be like an expert in a topic. And I think you know that you can't really go past that, right? Even when you know, like you know the basics and you want to do like something new, like something different, something specific, you're gonna search for the documentation.

The Efficiency of Documentation vs. Tutorials

In the documentation, it's gonna be much faster than like going through a tutorial. Like you don't even know the answer that you're looking for. Right. And in the mix. Like you can also, like now you can use AI software or you can ask JDBG or others like to help you understand something or like to find like the option that you need or like the tweak that you need to do the advice that you need to receive. So, yeah, so I mean, like the question is to browse. Like there's no one answer. Like what is the best to learn? I think you're gonna need like probably to do both. Like sometimes, you know, it's funnier to do tutorials because then you're hands on.

Personal Insights on Learning

So it's pretty cool. But like, you know what I don't like about tutorials? I really like the tutorials for this reason. Like you're gonna build stuff. It's pretty cool. What I don't like is like too many people are just following the tutorials without even thinking about stuff. When you read the documentation, you have to be active. Like you know, your brain needs to be active. And you know, I think in the documentation nowadays, if it's well done, you have some examples also. Like it's not exactly a tutorial, it's not as fun. But then like it illustrates the things in a way that, you know, you have like the entire information and also like, you know, like some kind of boilerplate to start with.

The Role of Context in Learning

And if the documentation is well done, probably the documentation is good to go. Now, if you switch context, it's not about just learning, it's about building something. If it's something that is huge, you're not going to have the time to read the entire documentation. You want to get into this right away. So the tutorial is going to better. So just like we talked last week, it's always a question of context. So if you have a different context, the answer is going to be different. At the end of the day, like once you know the basics. And I think I touched base with the students like earlier this morning with the front end and back end students, the best way to learn is going to be to build something and, you know, you're going to learn exactly what you need.

Learning Efficiency in Practice

You're not going to learn more, you're going to learn exactly what you need. And that's, at the end of the day, that's what you want. So again, depends on the context. If you're outside of school, in school, sorry. The context is you want to learn as much as possible. But once you're outside school, the context is like if you're building a product, for instance, the context is you want to go to market as fast as possible so you don't need to read the entire documentation. And the problem with the documentation in that case is that it's just too big. And so like a tutorial or a example or chat GPT we go like do the job better for you to go to market faster.

Adapting to Technological Changes

So that's, yeah, that's my answer. But you know, at the end of the day, like you're gonna need to build and it's a back and forth with like building a new documentation. That's gonna be like the key to success. All right. Daniel, are you still here? I'm going to invite a few people to speak, to ask questions. But Deb, if you have any other following question, follow up question, I'm happy to try to answer them. Daniel, maybe like recon, like disconnect and reconnect. Nobody can hear you anymore. All right. Goodness.

Engagement from New Speakers

Did you have a question? Oh, no. Good evening. Definitely. I really just wanted to join the conversation. It's been a long time I have been with you guys here and also really I wanted to have a talk with Daniel. I've always been forgetting and it's almost very urgent now. Yeah. Okay. So I'm trying to talk to Daniel too, but it seems the challenge today. Yeah. Hello, sir. Oh, hello. Yeah, this is immaculate. I think I refer to you as sensei. Actually. I really don't know how to pronounce that but honestly, you're only kind actually.

Continued Technical Challenges

But that's not the reason. That's not, that's not what I'm trying to say. I'm just trying to tell you that junior. Yeah, Daniel is here and he has been requesting for the mine since, but. He has not been granted actually. So I don't know if you can see him from your end or maybe there's something wrong actually, but he's been. Here and has been trying to say. One or two things, but he has. Not been given the mic. That's just why, like, everybody who is asking for the mic, at least on my interface, I gave the mic to. So maybe like, if you can, I don't know, disconnect, reconnect. You know, sometimes there's like, issues with x.

Reflection on Learning Approaches

It's not very well synchronized. Okay, Daniel, maybe you should reconnect. Okay, so, sar, Julian, I want to ask this follow up question, per se. So, with respect to documentations and tutorials, if you're trying to learn a concept for you, Sarger, what would be your go to? Would you start with a documentation, then go through a tutorial later? Or do you think that maybe going through a tutorial will help you have like, a general understanding? Because all these things are, you know, at the first glance, they can feel like Greek, you know? And then do you think that having a tutorial first will help you, like, gain a general insight?

Navigating Work Environments

And then you can now go through a documentation, especially when you're pressed for time. So imagine you're already with a company. They're using stacks that you're not familiar with. There's a project on ground. You need to get like, your knowledge on whatever is happening real fast. If you were in that situation, how would you approach it? Would you go documentation first, like, you know, all the important stuff, and then maybe a tutorial that has solved that problem? Or would you do tutorial first and documentation or even for the knowledge of it? That's the question. Oh, yes.

Personal Preferred Learning Methods

So if you are like, if you have to do something you know nothing about inside. Inside a company that is working on, like, you know, specific tasks. Stack. Sorry. Yeah, I think. I think I would probably go through tutorials, but I like reading more than videos, so I would go through written tutorials. Documentation also, I would split my time, like probably like a third or a third something like tutorials documentation. I mean, like documentation in combination with reading the code that already exists, I think. But I would like. Part of my process would be to go and read the code that the engineers have been, like, working on before I joined the company.

In-depth Insights and Observations

That's nice. Can you guys hear me? Yes. So, Hi. Oh, hi, Julian. Hello. My name is Mayna. When you. Yeah, sorry, I was about to say, like, when you take the mic, please, like, introduce yourself, guys, and like, tell us where you are calling from. Hi, Julian. Oh, hi, Julian. So my name is. Okay, so, hi, Julian. And everyone, my name is Maina Kelvin. From Kenya and I had a question. About, have you guys seen the way? Now they have implemented an AI that. Can transform UI designs from Figma to.

AI Transforming Development Processes

Actual code in like three to two business days and deploy it. And what's your take on that? Because I think now front end developers. Are somewhat going to be like taken. Out of the market because now if. You are a backend developer, you can. Touch on the front end and then, yeah. Okay. All right, so it's a good question, like a recurring question in those calls. You know, what's going to happen to all those software engineers once the AIs are going to take over to look?

Historical Perspective on Software Engineering

I have two answers. Like the first one is like to understand the future you need to look at the past most of the time, right? And you know, at the very beginning we had programming time ago, it was like paper with like holes in them, right? It was very hard. Like if you miss something then it takes a lot of time, like to like try to do it again. And then we had like more, you know, modernization language is like assembly and it was the end of, you know, software engineers as we knew it.

Evolving Nature of Software Development

And like it was so easy to do assembly compared to like, it was like, you know, like paper with holes in them. You know, it was the end of software engineers. And then, you know, of course we needed more software engineers and then like we had like, you know, c. It was like, wow, this is a so high level, you know, programming language, so easy to compare to like assembly. It's going to be like, you know, it's the end of software engineers. But the reality is that we needed actually like more software engineers.

Future Demand for Software Engineers

And then we have like, you know, JavaScript and then we had like, oh, it's so easy. Like, you know, everybody can like write a program, right? So easy compared to c. You don't have to think about, you know, low level stuff, you know, hardware stuff and you know, managing memory. Then we had framework, so like it's not even like coding anymore. It's like framework, you know, framework for JavaScript and all of those are like very high level programming languages and it's the end of, you know, software engineers. What are we going to do like now?

Impact of Automation on Employment

Like we're going to be out of job but of course we need more software engineers and yeah, and then like fast forward again. We had, you know, offshore offshoring everybody like, you know, hire people in ninja is the end of the world, you know, like nobody needs like software engineers like that all paid like that much in Europe and in the US. But the reality is we need even more software engineers. It was like even harder to find them and then we had like no code, like, you remember a few years ago, the no code eradication.

Reassessing the Value of Software Engineers

Like, it's the end of the world. Nobody needs to code anymore, so what are we gonna do? And the reality is, you know, we need even more software engineers. And it was like harder to find and okay, like, you know, and then like so on and so forth until now it's like, well, now we have an AI that can like move like from, you know, Figma to front end and it's the end of the world. We don't need those front end engineers anymore. We don't need those back end engineers anymore because like this chat GPT and there's like all those other AI who code, right?

Moving Beyond Immediate Concerns

The end of the world, man. And like, you know, look, I think it's going to be the same thing repeating again. What's, what's happening is that, you know, software moves the world and we're going to need more and more software engineers within the next, you know, 20 years of maybe in 20 years, like, things going to change. But for now, you know, AI is just one of those other tools that people are going to need to master. Of course you're going to need to use it to be more efficient at your job and to do more with like, you know, less time and maybe less knowledge, maybe, or like different knowledge, I would say probably is more accurate, right?

Achieving Efficiency through Knowledge

It goes like much faster with a framework to build a website than without a framework. But if you don't know the framework, then maybe you're out of a job, maybe not, I don't know. But, you know, you need to know a little bit of these things and, but like, we still need more software engineers. So I would say, like, just like, guys, don't be worried about those things. You know, focus on your learning, get very good at what you want to learn and there's going to be no issue.

Adapting and Embracing New Technology

Like the only issue you will gonna face is you are going to face is if you do not, you know, embrace those like new waves of new technology, this is going to be a problem. But if you embrace them, then it's going to be really cool because you're going to add another tool at your toolkit to be even more efficient, to go faster, to build stuff, like much more efficiently. And I think it's great. I think it's great. So all those films are like, you know, things are going to improve your productivity and that's the only way you should look at them, at least for now.

Final Thoughts on AI and Learning

So, yeah, that's my answer. Thank you. Does it make sense? I hope. Yeah, I hope it reassures everybody. Like, there's like, you know, all those, like, guys who are saying, like, you know, this is the end of the world. This is the end of the world. Like, you know, stop listening to those bullshit. It's not the end of the world. I think it's pretty cool, and I hope, like, you see it the same way. It's pretty cool. I'm using AI, like, all the time doing my side projects now. But, like, you know, like, second part of my answer is that it's not working as well as people think.

Limitations of Current AI Technologies

So, like, you know, whenever you want to do, like, something, you know, really basics, it's so good at it, but when you want to do, like, something specific, it's not very good. Right? So, no, it permits me to go, like, probably like guys, like, five times faster than before, honestly. But it doesn't do the entire job. And I'm still working, you know, the same amount of time. So the difference is not like, am I still, like, able, like, to put like, time into like, building stuff? The answer is like, you know, I'm just going like five times faster, but, you know, everybody's gonna go five times faster, so, you know, it's just gonna be like the same thing again.

Competitive Landscape in the Industry

Like, the competition is still gonna be happening and, you know, until we, like, actually get, like, to make, you know, nothing's gonna change. Does this make sense for you? Yes, it does. I can't hear you. How are you? I am alive as best as I can. My, I don't know. But Nigeria does its thing for us when we want to ask important questions and our network goes off. sorry. I hoped off for a while. And if you don't mind, I would continue asking the questions because I want to talk about how this topic originated, but I want to confirm you can still hear me.

Revisiting Health and Networking Issues

Yeah, I can hear you. Okay. So, you know, you've. Okay, I think. Okay. You started with goodness. Goodness. I wanted to speak to me and then you talked about learning with concept. You said it still depends on the context of what you're learning. Right. But, you know, particularly in the ALX framework, we are asked to read the documentation. ALX wants to teach us something official, like a new technology and other things like that.

Learning Standards and Community Interaction

And then you click on the first resource page. It takes you to the manual. Right now, it can be annoying sometimes, I won't lie, but I think they are passing a message across it because at the hub here someone was trying to learn next and I don't know what kind of framework it is and all, but I think you have to do it back and front end. And for projects that were expected to build before moving to specializations and even before graduating, you definitely need to learn like new technologies and the rest.

Tutorials vs Documentation Debate

Right now, following tutorials you can follow into tutorials here. And one thing I also found out from following tutorials is those tutorials are usually specific to the version of the technologies they are using at that point in time. Looking at a tutorial that teaches you redis 20 or how many years ago is different from looking at the tutorial, right? And the documentation is never outdated. Documentation provides you like standard, that's a standard dictionary of everything you need to know.

Community Learning Preferences

You need to do this, you do it this way, you need to do that, you do it that way, you need to have this installed and other things like that. But concerning and when you now start relating with members of the community, right. Everybody has their own different of learning and it now turns out that when you try out like having a research, people prefer to start with the tutorial first, then visit the documentation later. So it's more of tutorial makes everything clear, especially on YouTube video.

Conclusion on Efficient Learning Strategies

Then you now see how the documentation comes play. So I, on behalf of everybody here, I ask this question. How would you answer this question? Do you think it is an efficient way, especially if you are talking in terms of speed, because Alex taught us how to learn. Yes. Or would you say we can start with the tutorial first, then continue? No, I think you can do, I think you should do like whatever works best for you within the context that you are in, right? So again, like there's two different contexts here.

Contextual Learning Framework

What we're talking about, like there's the one at ALX where like the goal is to learn and the goal for us is to prepare you to become great software engineers no matter what the context is going to be next.

The Importance of Reading Documentation

So the reason why like we want you to, like we want to push you to like read documentation is first we realized that like all of you come in with having a lot of tutorials, having done a lot of tutorials, but like nobody actually reads the documentation. In order to get to like a, you know, a level of expertise that, you know, sometimes you're going to need to reach later on, you're going to need to read those documentation. You have no choice, right? Most of the time you have no choice. You're going to have to get to the documentation. The second reason why again, like, we want you to be prepared for everything, right? So you're not gonna have like a tutorial for everything. So when you get to, like only the documentation, if you're not used to it, then it's gonna be very hard for you to deal with it because you're like, you're used to having like your brain just following and click, you know, on stuff that the person tells you to do on YouTube and without thinking about it. So it's also another mindset, right.

Shifting Mindset and Preparation

But like, the problem is you're not going to have a tutorial for everything. So we need to train you on documentation. It's very important. And like, we push and we know that you guys don't like it and never do it. So it means that you need to do it even more. So again, repeating myself, context at school, at university, at least in our program, is to prepare you for like, whatever happens next. So it means that any type of potential context, as many contexts as possible right now, depending on the context, after school, depending on the context, do what's best for you. If you like the tutorial and you think it's going to work better in terms of shipping the product faster, go for the tutorial. If you think that it's going to be the documentation, go for the documentation. If you think it's something else, go for something else.

Personalizing Learning Methods

Could be AI, it could be like talking to other friends, could be reaching out to specialists, could be reading code. Whatever works for you within the context is the best for you in terms of learning, in terms of preparing yourself for the future. At ALX, we insist a lot on documentation because we know that sometimes you're not going to have anything else that documentation. And so you need to be prepared for that. And also we know that for some of you who wants to become experts in a certain field, you're going to need to master, you know, going through documentation. So again, it's all a question of context. There's no one answer to fit all. And as you said, like some people, you know, like learn better with, you know, video. Some people learn better with reading. Some people learn better with listening. Some people learn better by doing some people.

Adapting to Individual Learning Styles

Everybody's different. Does it make sense? Yeah, that makes sense. Sounds good. All right. Reject, reject. Glutens. Do you have a question? Hello, mister Julian, my name is KK. Hello, I'm from Kenya. There's a lot of people from Kenya today. That's good. 50 50 with Nigeria. Okay, so mine is just a follow up question. I'm just from with you from the space on the ALX team. And I would like to talk about the degree. So I'd ask a question before. So the question was, what's the probability of you becoming a very successful software engineer without a degree? And as we can see from a few research that I've done, I could see that most of the companies actually require one to have a degree in order for them to be employed in their companies.

Balancing Degree Requirements and Opportunities

So what's your take on that at the moment? Because it's something that has been kind of, like, troublesome to me because some of us might have got into universities, but maybe we got some family issues along the way and we had to drop out because always family comes first. So now we're trying to venture into this other opportunity, but you can still see there's a little bit of a hindrance when it comes to the having of a degree. So how do you go about that? Yeah, I think, you know, I would go, like, always the same way. Like, so look, you can, like, either look at the glass that is full or half empty, right? So if, like, 50% of the companies are hiring with a degree as a requirement, you know, it means that 50% of the company are hiring without a degree as a requirement. So just, like, focus on them. And I think that's the end of the answer. Right?

Navigating Employment Without a Degree

I mean, like, look, like when. When I was. When I. When I graduated from my university, which was not recognized as a university before, and, like, the degree was not recognized as a degree, so it was a certificate as well. I, you know, some companies would not hire me because of that. Or, like, you know, would tell me, hey, I wouldn't be paid, like, twice as less than someone who has a degree from, like, a recognized university. And I just tell them, like, okay, like, you know, see you later. And I found a company who would value my skill set versus, like, you know, a degree, like a piece of paper, but doesn't mean anything. So just focus on those companies which are not requiring a degree and just go for it. There's, like, plenty of space for everybody.

Education Trends and Job Market

Thank you. Thank you. So. And. Sorry. Like, the last thing I want to add. The last thing I want to add is look at the trend. The trend is, like, most of those companies, like, in a few years, but will not require degrees. That's what's happening in the US right now. That's what's happening in Europe. That's what's happening also in Africa and Latin America. I don't know about Asia. I'm not a specialist over there, but that's what I see. Like, you know, overall, people are less and less requiring degrees because they understand that the majority of students are, like, cheating anyway. So, like, you know, the real, like, requirement is, like, you know, can you build stuff and ship stuff for us?

Job Interviews and Skills Over Degrees

And that's what you're going to get at the interview process. You're going to get, like, you know, test, technical tests, and that's how you're going to get hired. If the degree is a problem for one company right now, just, like, go for another company. There's so many companies hiring, and, like, the trend is, like, very positive toward, like, no degree as a requirement. Thank you. Thank you for that. After I'm done, I'll be coming for. You for that challenge. I'm sorry, what? I'm saying. After I'm done with the program, I'll be coming for you for that challenge.

Advice on Mastery and Persistence

Thank you. And you'll be coming for me? What does that mean? No, after you're done, you need to, like, review everything, make sure you understand everything, and then you master everything, and then, like, go for it. And, you know, after you get, like, you know, 200 rejections, you'll find a job. Okay. Thank you. Of course. All right, who's here? favorite I. How are you? It's been a long time. Hi, Julian. Hi, everyone. It's been so long. I've been so busy. Honestly, even my weekend spaces, I haven't been doing them much anymore. So once I saw this place, I came to Twitter, and I'm like, I saw this place.

Personal Experiences with Learning

I saw Julian's. I'm like, oh, my gosh, I have to. From Kenya, flow state. We're talking to flavor. Like, I'm gonna mute you and then come back to you after. No, she's done. Okay. Yeah. So I was saying that once I saw the space, I'm like, oh, my gosh. I just need to be here. How are you doing, Julian? I'm good. I'm good. It's a sunny Friday here in California. Sunnydez? Yes, it is sunny. It's really good. It's not too hot? It's a cold day today here. Yeah, yeah. Which city are you coming? Are you calling from Biosa State in Nigeria? You probably won't know it. No, I don't, but.

Building Connections Globally

Okay. Nigeria. Like, three to two, Nigeria represent all the time, man. Okay. All right. So what have you been building? So I've been. I'm doing the Hng internship. I don't know if you've heard of them. No, who is Hng? Okay. Just like Alx with the mysterious acronym. What do they call it? Oh, sweet. My mind is. My mind is there, but with, you know what I'm talking about. Alx that doesn't have like a, you know, meaning at the beginning. So these people, they also have this baby. So he and G. Okay. Is like at the beginning, they don't tell you what it means.

Insights on Internship Programs

And then later on I got. It means help grow. But it's not for newbies, actually. So it's like two months. That's eight weeks. And it's super intense. It's like. And I'm so grateful I did Alx before this because I know that I would have lost my mind. I don't think I would have gone very far in this program without ALX. Every single day at this program, I'm like, ish. This is so easy. Like, not easy. It's not easy, but it's way easier than it would have been if I did not do Alx beforehand. So it simulates a job environment, like a working environment.

Experiencing Challenges in Learning

So I pick up things easily. I already have my grit and goals mindset and, you know, everything is locked down for me from ALx, so I don't have to, you know, start learning a lot of all these things all over again. So it's really nice. If you're having fun. Sorry, it sounds like you're having fun. Yes, I'm having fun, but it's really, it's, it would have been a lot more fun if I had electricity since I've not had electricity at my house for over a month now. And it's really stressful. Do we have like plans to reconnect to the electricity soon or what's the.

Addressing Infrastructure Issues

Yeah, I'm hearing different things from different places. Someone said it's like the national grid, the part of the national grid that powers this area. It did not just fall or something. It collapsed and broke statistic. So it's like a whole contract to rebuild it. And in Nigeria, you know, the corruption issue, it's like elephants in the room, so everyone knows it's there. So for them to assign the contract is going to be like probably a problem. And then I just, I've heard different things from different people. Said some polls in different places, over 14 poles scattered across. It's just crazy.

Challenges of Living Conditions

I'm tired, honestly. So it sounds like it's going to take a little bit more time. It's going to. The contract still not being signed. Yeah. Someone said, like last week I went to charge somewhere. And the person is like, that we're not expecting light for the next three months. I was like, sorry, is it those one month that just passed or is three months more? I'm, like, confused. I need to get away. Honestly, it's crazy. Well, I'm sorry. Like, this is happening. I think it's good that your mind is, like, set on something else while this is happening.

Finding Positive Outlook in Adversity

And it seems that your internship is going well, so I'm very glad that this is happening for you. That's pretty cool. Thank you. It's pretty cool. Thank you so much. Well, you know, welcome back to XDev. Thank you. I think I'll host my space next week and not this weekend. Tomorrow I'm supposed to do a couple of things. A whole lot of things, actually. So next weekend I'll be back with X completely. I'll be done with ALX by next. Before next weekend. And I'd also be done with H and G.

Continuing Development and Future Plans

Okay. All right, cool. Everything's coming together. All right, good talk to you. Thank you. Thank you, Julian. Thank you. Should I come in first? Hi, Daniel. Who's speaking? Is it Daniel? Hello? I would like him to use my mic. All right, so maybe. Hello? Can anyone hear me? I'm about to give. Yes, I'm about to give Daniel my mic, actually. I think he's having issues with his. Yeah, I don't know what's going on.

Technical Difficulties and Communication

I'm going to mute. Then go to another speaker. Okay. What are we waiting for, Daniel? Flow state. Do you want to ask your question? Oh, hey. hey, Debbie. It's Victor. Hopefully you remember me. hi, Julian. Hey. Hi. If she doesn't, you can always, like, ping her on your new dating app. So were once with Debbie one cohort, then she. I don't know why, but hopefully she's doing. Oh. So, Julian, I just have a question for you.

Job Challenges and Isolation

I got a job at a company where I'm writing code for controllers so they can interact with the machine. But the problem is. Okay, congratulations. Thanks. The problem is, I'm the only one. I'm the only person working on that stuff. And the motivation sometimes drizzle down to, like, zero. It's not like Alex, where you find someone else solving a problem and you're like, oh, yeah, I solved this one. But the place I am working in, I feel like I'm alone. I'm. I can't. I am feeling a lot of blocks when I'm trying to solve some issues.

Seeking Guidance and Support

So it's kind of hard to keep on moving at a particular speed and rate. So what's your advice on that? Yeah, so, yeah, so there's, like, two, like, challenges, as I understand it. Right. So the first one is, like, you're alone, and then it's kind of lonely and not motivating. The second one is, like, when you hit the roadblock, then there's nobody to help. I think for both of those things, if nobody in the company can help and if you were alone, it's probably.

Building Networks for Support

But they don't have the budget to hire someone else. So if that's the case, you need to look, you know, outside of the company to, you know, get into probably, like, a group of, like, experts or, like, people working on that topic to, like. And to, like, not feeling alone and, like, to get some help. So I think I would, like, look at, you know, like, both, you know, in person meetups in my region, but all, like, you know, which topic are gravitating around, like, what I'm doing right now, and, like, look at, you know, online communities.

Utilizing Resources for Learning

And it doesn't have to be, like, a community that is, like, already, like, you know, on a discord channel, but it could be, you know, like, people on the forum. It could be, like, people, like, you know, writing blog posts about this and, like, you know, reaching out to them. You also have LinkedIn. Try to look at people around your area to see if, like, people are working on the same thing, and we just, like, go and grab coffee with them to get to know them and. And, you know, like, you know, build relationships. Like, build this network, but it's specific to this area that you're, like, working on.

Recommendations for Networking

And, you know, starts, you know, like, once you have this, then, like, you have, like, a kind of a, like, small network and a system to rely on that. I think that's what I would do. Yeah. Yeah, that sounds fine. Okay, I'll do that. Yeah. And look, when you're, like, feeling down, like, think about the fact that you found the job. It's pretty cool. Congratulations to you. Yeah, yeah. Thanks. All right. Thank you.

Acknowledging Past Experiences

So, I'm sorry, I just want to add congrats, victorian officer. I remember Victor. I worked on the Monty project with him, and it was amazing working with him. Yeah, we did. What's that language that has the f word? Brain? Fuck brain. Yeah. It ate our mind. It broke us down. Like, it did a lot of things. I can't. I just don't want to remember that thing. That's cool. Well, congratulations again, and, yeah, like, tell us if the advice worked.

Growth Through Collaboration

And if you're not someone who's, like, comfortable reaching out to people, I think it's going to be, like, a great exercise to get outside of your comfort zone and just grow from that. I think it's pretty cool. All right. Thank you. Yeah. Immaculate. Let me. This is Daniel. Yeah, I'm using his mic. What's going on? I don't know. Maybe someone hacked my sister, but, I've been having issues. sorry. No.

Team Dynamics and Communication

Like, then Daniel's the new boss, guys. Like, let me explain what he just did. Daniel's the new boss. He contacts me, like, to do, like a, you know, can you join? My, my ex. I want to do, like, an ex review. Julian, can you join? I say yes. And then he says, like, okay, can you do it? Can you create the x for me? When I create the x, you know, like, the extra event for him. And then I show up, and he shows up, like, for two minutes, and then, like, working on something else.

Workplace Dynamics

He's the new bus. Like, look, I'm working for him. I can't even wish for that. Sorry. I've been having, like, serious issues with my mic. I have to drag a lot of them at the hub here so they can hear from you directly because, you know, it's a wonderful thing that ALx did. Right? They taught us how to learn, and they imparted something that would never leave us. I mean, that's now willingness to be productive. Right.

The Value of Continuous Learning

So anytime we have discussions like this, and because we've been doing collaboration and the rest, it's always intelligent discussions and arguments and even building up serious project ideas that are really groundbreaking. So, concerning the community, I have a question. Julian and I still wanted to be in line with the question on learning. Right. If. Okay, sometimes at the hubs here, we host plds, live learning sessions.

Teaching in Diverse Learning Contexts

And for algorithmia, it's been a while, but we also teach, right? So it's been very clear that there's not always a specific way to carry everyone along. What I mean by that is you are teaching this concept. Okay, let's say you are teaching an average of ten people. Now, I love my SQL, right? So you're using MySQl, for example, out of that ten people, two people know what MySQl is, and they can use MySQl, right?

Diverse Learning Levels in a Classroom

One other person is hearing the word for the first time. Another person is so advanced that he can use orms, whatever they are, to create anything else. Then there's also this guy that only knows what databases are, and there's someone else in the core that does not want to learn. So in all. In essence, all I'm trying to say is in teaching and still in the fact of teaching maybe new concepts to people now, not just learning what you're trying to teach, right.

Connecting Learning with Teaching

And why I value teaching is when you are teaching, you get to connect the dots even more than how you understand them and what you understand. Right. So how. How best would you, from your experience and from your expertise, what would you say is, like, the most productive and let me say, go achieving way of teaching concepts, especially to people who are totally new to what you're trying to teach them, right. How.

Challenges in Scaling Community Sessions

Yeah, it's like, it's, It's really hard. I think you're gonna. So you're gonna have, like, to have, like, sessions for everybody if you want to do this. But the problem is that the community is not big enough to, like, scale that much. So you're gonna. I think you. You want to try to find ways to, like, scale this until you can actually scale it. Meaning that, like, until you get to, like, a point where you have, like, so many people that you can have, like, have, like, a team, like. And, like, everybody's, like, focusing on, like, level. Level 021-2345 you know, from the person who doesn't know anything, doesn't even know, like, what a database is to, like, the person who's, like, been using it for ten years until you reach that point, it's really hard to scale.

Structuring Learning Sessions

But, like, this, there's always, like, a way. So one of the things I'm thinking of, and maybe you want to try that is, you know, everybody was trying to rank everybody in terms of, like, in terms of levels, right? And then maybe, I don't know, like, how often you do those sessions, but maybe, like, you know, like, week one, you do, like, a session for. You do sessions for, like, you know, level zero and then, like, one and two and three and four and five. And meanwhile, when, like, people are waiting for their level, what you could try, if you're, like, if the community is willing to do it, is that, you know, the guys from level five organize, like, a class for the guys for level. For level four and the guy for level.

Creating Continuous Learning Opportunities

The guys for level four organize a class for the guys for level three and so on and so forth. So there's always something happening for them. And then it's not just, like, taking out from the community. It's also, like, giving. Giving back. And it's pretty cool because then, like, from that, like, if it works, but it scales right away, right. And then from there, like, you're going to see, like, who's going to be emerging as, you know, a leader in this community. And it's also pretty cool to see because then, like, you can be closer to those guys, you know, much faster than if you were not doing this.

The Realities of Community Engagement

So it's hard to put in place in, you know, in theory, it works very well. In practice, it's much. It's much harder because there's a lot of people who show up in those community who just want to take and do not want to give, which is, like, totally okay, right? Like, it's, you know, but you're gonna. You know, if you do this, then you're gonna rely on, like, you know, at least, like, one person from each level doing something for the. For the level below. And then, like, you want to make sure that you have something, like, for each of the level, like, you know, regularly, yourself as the organizer to make sure that everybody's motivated.

The Importance of Participatory Learning

Yeah, I would try that. I think so. Try. Try that and tell me how it works if you like the idea. Yeah, I'm loving the idea already, but because the thing is, I. I'm the kind of person I love carrying everyone along, right. And on a call whereby you have a number of people who have understood the concept they are yet to apply, it gives an amount of joy when at least 70% of the people come back, say, oh, I found out how to do it this way and even prove you wrong. Right. Okay, maybe you are trying to connect it this way and define another fast and efficient way.

Successful Learning through Collaboration

That's what makes us softer engineers. So the goal of teaching them has been achieved and they've improved on it. Right. So, yeah, I I'll try out my community, and I would get back to you in that, but I would allow others to speak now before our vim versus emacs war begins, because I know lover just grabbed the mic. Debbie just grabbed the mic. And Mark deal, too, has grabbed the mic. So I know it's about to go down, but I think I'll just allow everyone else to speak before. No, there is no war between the v mami and trashed in Max already.

Discussing the Vim vs Emacs Debate

There's no real war. It's just to establish our victory. But let me allow other people, my. Dear, will not allow you. We know. I think you look so, like. No, let's. Let's put, like, let's put this, like, to the rest. So the one thing that team vim is very good at is speaking. So, like, trash. Trash talking and, like, talking about, like, what they would do but actually do nothing. Nothing. You know, it's like, you know, but, you know, I don't want to do, like, you know, I was about to make, like, a very bad, like, political.

Perceptions of the Communities

It's like saying they're gonna. They're gonna trash us on this space and then come in here and turning this space into a q and a session. Typical of a. Spirits. We don't see them. Do we see it? Yeah, because we. Yeah, man, look, my favorite. Like, I'm building. I'm. I'm busy building stuff. It's not my fault. Why? Like, vim, like, he's, like, trying. Still trying to exit. Mx does not have a team. That's why they are nowhere to be found. They can't even organize themselves to come out.

Comparing Team Dynamics

So, like, I think so. Look, let me prove you're wrong, right? I think, like, to be. To become a team, you just need to be two, and, you know, we at least two on this call, like, being team remax. So, like, we are an actual team. Like, you can't deny that you, like, you know, in a basketball team, like, those who are on the bench are part of the team. You know, it's. That's what it is. It's team. You can't deny that.

The Value of Team Identity

It's the definition of a team. I have, like, one guy to support me, and, like, I support him, and, like, it's. Actually, we want more than that. It's just, like, I'm making. Look, I personally think. I personally think bringing the emacs community into this is, like, a waste of their precious time. Like, we. We know the truth and we. Trust me, trust me. Vim community looks more like an ngo than an actual tech community.

Skepticism Towards Community Transitions

It's like Deborah's for those who have no voice. You know, voice of the voiceless. You can turn it into a podcast. You. You do. You do better. Trust me. Wow. What is your role life online? What is your role in emacs? Just to sing off tune for saguian. Emacs? Like, we don't do anything in the team. Like, the emacs is already built. We don't need to, like, make it better. What's your role in Vimdez?

Confrontational Dialogues

Suddenly, like, you became silent because you don't have no answer? Look, what I'm about to say now might break your heart for real. Oh, of course. And then now you're muted. It's always the same thing with Timmy magic about to do something really great. The Saj. When we want to graduate, so when we graduate, we come. The fact that you have to graduate alone, the fact you have to graduate is. It doesn't tell well of you guys.

Reflections on Community Engagement

Doesn't tell well of you guys at all. It's. Look, you know what? I actually, like, try my best. Like, I socialize on Fridays, and I'm like, some more my friends just hanging out and talking, and I anticipated what the vim community is going to do here. And I saw goody, I saw Lovett, I saw favor, and I saw Daniel, and I saw Debbie.

Expectations vs Reality in Discussions

And I'm like, okay, at least they have their head. They would come up with something tangible today, but instead, they've just been here doing a tic tac toe. As always, when you guys are, like, really serious about business, maybe you should just let me know. Right? And I think we'll be opening versus code, not Twitter. Then. Months when me and Debbie graduate will come back here.

Perseverance in Transition

Since last year. Since last year, you've been getting ready. It's like, even. Even someone getting ready for, like, the ballon Dior event or Grammy awards hasn't taken this much time. Speaking of Kissinger. Okay, let's take. Let's take a break because everybody's leaving because nobody's interested in this little war between two of us. The problem is, like. No, I think the problem, like, really, the problem is that, like, people are serious in this space, and they realized there were a lot of people, like, using vim, and they.

Addressing Engagement Challenges

They took this space, like, less seriously. Everybody left when you started speaking, and now we're, like, 58. Oh, yeah. Yeah. All right, I have time for one last question. If someone has a question, and then I need to leave. Okay. I need to go work. Yeah. Goodness. That was below the belt.

Community Involvements and Interactions

Hello. Yeah. Goodness. Welcome. Sorry. Sorry about team Vim doing a tantrum. Oh, okay. All right. That's fine. Yeah. Good evening. Also need to leave, also very soon. So I guess we are locked in at the right time. So, yeah, basically, first shout out to favor. I think, favor hng means hotels. It's from the names. Hotels ng.

Discussion of Online Community Pioneership

So I think they are one of those pioneers of people that started a hotel business virtually or online. Yeah, yeah. So it's from the name Hotel Ng. So the. The founder of HMG or the owner is the founder of hotel. I'm sorry, guys. I'm sorry, guys, but I really. I don't know, this. This might be wrong, but I kind of have noticed a trend where Alex learners after, like, ALx have to go on to hnge.

Debate on Transitioning from Alex to HNG

I know. Like, Donna, like, posted something about it, and I talked about, like, a pipeline stuff. I personally, like, think I don't really, like, that flow like ALx and then post Alx Hng. I don't really like it, honestly. Yeah, but I don't know. I don't know. Like, that. I don't know. I don't know if you guys get what I'm trying to say and maybe, like, on the.

Discussions on Community Credentials

Where I'm coming from, but I don't know. I don't. I'm not saying I don't like HNg. I'm saying I don't like the fact that ALx learners have to go from ALX to HMG after their graduation. I've met. I've met just very few Alx people in Hng. And I'm like, okay, maybe they don't talk about it much because, like, okay, we're here in Hng and all that, but Hng stimulates.

Working Environment Simulation

I did not know what was in Hng before I started. Started. But H and G simulates a working environment. So it's like, you have product managers, you have a boss, you have deadlines. You have products to build. Now, h and G is ending, like, next week, I think they said one week ago, and already there are, like, five products that are supposed to be live by that time, built by the interns. I don't know if you understand my point.

Perspectives on HNG’s Approach

So I think. Let me come in, please. I think I understand what Julian is trying to say. He's trying to. Yeah, I think Julian, please tell me. Oh, my God. I thought. It's Julian. It's an imax thing. They all sound like. So I don't understand, like, what's your. What's the point about, like, why don't you like the h and g thing?

Critique on Learning Structure

Like, do you think that Alex should be, like, doing, like, a program like this? Do you feel like they're taking advantage of the students? Like, what. What is it that you don't like? Exactly. Because, like, to me, getting, like, more experience. It's pretty cool for that. I get what Bishop is saying. I think that if I'm correct, please.

Reflections on ALX’s Impact

If I'm wrong, please correct me. I think what he means is Alx has really done all the work on us. And there are lots of organizations where when you. When you tell them you are from ALx, they already respect you so much because of how difficult, in quotes, Alx is and going through the, if I understand my girl correctly.

Addressing Perceptions in Learning Paths

So going through Hng kind of gives the credit to hng over Alec, something like that. So it just feels like, oh, after Alex, we're going for something more. I don't know, more. Something harder than doing hard things from ALx. And it now looks like, oh, and. J. Oh, I think I get your point now, Bishop.

Overview on Program Transitions

Is that what you were talking about? So it's like, why do we, you know, looks like a trend where, according to Bishop, where most Alx students are like, oh, after I'm done with Alx, I need to prove myself with HNG, you know, before going somewhere else. So. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. That. That is an issue for me.

Concerns about Completion Rates

The reason why it's an issue is because it's like a pointer to the fact that we are not fully harnessing the ALX program, in my opinion. In my opinion, if someone diligently goes through the program, ALX program, I mean, like, by month seven meant month eight, you're, like, able to, like, kick off stuff yourself, honestly.

Commitment to Skill Development

And I think that sometimes we don't commit ourselves to so much practicing and we escape tutorial hell only to jump into just another health program help. So you finish this program, you're like, get on this other program and get on this other program. And so I would rather say if you, like, graduate from Alxem, you have, like, a bunch of stuff you want to try out.

Emphasizing Practical Experience

It doesn't have to be some killer idea. No. It doesn't have to be some deep tech. No. You don't even need to, like, do it for production or, like, no. Just do things. Build things, build as many. Build as many. Build as many, build as many. Like, many of the successful builders have, like, a success rate of, like, less than 5%.

Encouraging Experimentation

So, like, what I mean is, like, someone has built, like, 70 stuff and maybe less than, just less than 5% of that actually, ended up making any form of money or any form of stuff for him. So that's what I'm saying. Like, we should, like, get our hands dirty instead of, like, looking. Looking for the next, program to get on.

Reflections on Community Responsibilities

I don't even like it. Yeah, I think so. Look, like. Yeah, I think, you know, there's, like, truth everywhere, like, in what you were saying, guys. So if so, like, first of all, like, if a company, you know, like, make it so that, you know, they attract, like, students from Alx se, and, you know, it gives them, like, something good, I think I'm like, I'm fine with it.

Navigating Between Companies

And then, like, this is between the two companies to deal with, like, who actually had, like, the most influence. But I think at the end of the day, like, the students know, and if it's, you know, hn, like, whatever, and. Or if it's, like, alx, like, to me, it doesn't really matter. If it's a good synergy, it's great. So that's the first thing I want to say.

Assessing the Nature of Collaboration

The second thing is, you know, like, there's always, like, someone who comes after who, like, picks up, like, you know, the hard work of someone else. Kind of the reality, guys, like, you know, we do a lot of things at Alx, and, you know, my team and I, I know we're working with very hard. You know, I visited the hub in Nigeria.

Acknowledge Student Contributions

I know this team over there is doing a lot of things, like, for, like, to help the students, but, yeah, like, you could say, you know, maybe they do less. You know, it's like, it's a few weeks versus, like, one year or, like, a few months, and it's not fair, but they have this recognition after we have, like, you know, helped the students to do, like, most things.

Collaboration in Learning Experiences

But the reality is, like, the hardest work is, like, done by the students, right? At the end of the day, it's the students who drive this, right? So what we do is, like, we provide the tool, the environment, you know? Yes, we work hard, but, like, nobody works harder than the students, actually.

Supportive Learning Environments

So if the students want to do something, like, I think we should support them. I think if we feel, like, a little bit jealous or if we think it's unfair, then, you know, we need to do something at our level. And it might be like, you need to reassure students that they need to, you know, get a job and we don't need this.

Reflections on Educational Programs

It might be that we need to actually build the same program. It might be that, you know, we want to tell them, hey, like, you want to try to build stuff and try to reassure them and, like, support them, like, whatever needs to be happening, but somehow, like, there is a market fit here, so we can criticize as much as we want, but this is the reality.

Call for Community Action

And, you know, at one point, like, we need to do something if, you know, if this is how we feel at the company level, you know, it's the first time I've heard about this internship. So I, you know, for me, like, I don't really care, but what I say, what I'm saying is that if the students are happy there, like, you know, we can continue there and I'm happy to send like even more students and refer them like to this program if it's good for them.

Engaging with Student Needs

The second thing I'm saying is that like we should stop complaining and do something about it. Like what needs to be done? And like you know one of the follow up question is like favor and goodness. Like what? Why did you feel that you needed to do this program? Because like from my point of view if you do alexse you can find a job.

Exploring Program Necessities

Like after the foundations you can find a job. You don't even need to do the specialization. This is what I've seen and that I am continuing seeing from the Hobarton based to those last students in the LXSE program. So like I think, you know, like the question is like to you, like what do you need to, why did you feel the need to do this?

Validation of Program Relevance

Is it more reassuring? This is like, was it like a low angry fruit? Was it that, you know, could do it at the same time as specialization? Was it that you felt that you were not prepared enough? I don't know, but like it's probably like the conversation we need to have like to understand exactly what we as an organization need to do.

Community Building Initiatives

Okay, so Julian, can I speak? Thank you. Please. Just a minute. Thank you. I know we have so much, I know we have so much to talk about, hng and all of that, but I know I'm also the one that brought back the conversation. But one of the main reasons I joined this first Julian, you remember, was saying I needed to talk to Daniel and now we both got to run very soon.

Reviving Local Communities

So one of the initiatives I'm trying to push is to revive the community here in Akwa Bong, the Alex community, because I found out that there's a lot of learners and a lot of fellows that don't even know we have a community. And I've been trying to do that very much this, the last two Sundays I've been trying to host versus and we really had a lot of people show up and I'm planning to host another one this Sunday.

Networking in the Community

More of a networking event where we get to know ourselves, what we are building. what's Alex, and of course what's Alex to those people that will be joining us? I don't know what Alex is. So I wanted to invite, I want to invite Daniel. maybe he could help grace the event. yeah, so that's for Daniel first.

Concluding Thoughts

Okay. So I'm not gonna have a lot of time like left. So I'm gonna let you to, like, connect. Hear you. Like, I'm gonna let you to connect on Twitter and then, like, continue this conversation. That's okay with you, right? All right. Yeah, sure. I want to go back to favor.

Reinforcing Learning Through Building

Like, the last thing I didn't mention, guys, before, like, I go back to your favor. Sorry. Sorry about team Vim doing a tantrum. Oh, okay. All right. That's fine. Yeah. Good evening. Also need to leave, also very soon. So I guess we are locked in at the right time. So, yeah, basically, first shout out to favor.

Importance of Engagement in Educational Paths

I think, favor hng means hotels. It's from the names. Hotels ng. So I think they are one of those pioneers of people that started a hotel business virtually or online. Yeah, yeah. So it's from the name Hotel Ng. So the. The founder of HMG or the owner is the founder of hotel.

Acknowledge Trends in Learning

I'm sorry, guys. I'm sorry, guys, but I really. I don't know, this. This might be wrong, but I kind of have noticed a trend where Alex learners after, like, ALx have to go on to hnge. I know. Like, Donna, like, posted something about it, and I talked about, like, a pipeline stuff.

Adapting to Evolving Educational Pathways

I personally, like, think I don't really, like, that flow like ALx and then post Alx Hng. I don't really like it, honestly. Yeah, but I don't know. I don't know. Like, that. I don't know. I don't know if you guys get what I'm trying to say and maybe, like, on the.

Reflections on Community Contributions

Where I'm coming from, but I don't know. I don't. I'm not saying I don't like HNg. I'm saying I don't like the fact that ALx learners have to go from ALX to HMG after their graduation. I've met. I've met just very few Alx people in Hng. And I'm like, okay, maybe they don't talk about it much because, like, okay, we're here in Hng and all that, but Hng stimulates.

Registration Statistics of Programs

You see, like, okay, maybe 5000 out of the 10,000 that initially registered. And over the twelve months is how the people drop. But this HNG, it runs for only two months and 17,000 people registered. At the moment, that is not registered started. There were 17,000 interns approximately. And at the moment they're like maybe 600. And it's just a month and three weeks now. I mean, one more week to finish. My point is, they're very different from each other.

Differences in Work Environments

H and G is in the sense of like a wicked boss breathing down your neck. So the worst of the worst working environment. Not the worst of the worst per se, but like a tough working environment. Alx is a tough learning environment. I don't know if you see the difference, Bishop, especially you. AlX is a tough learning environment. Working environment. So it's like they're not paying you're not paying them, but you are getting that working experience with the knowledge you already have. Which is why I said if I did not do Alx, I would not have survived this long in h and G because they make you learn new things the way you would on a job.

Learning Through Experience

And Alx has already taught me to learn new things on the go. So I went into HNG with knowledge of react and athlete stage what? Stage four. They're like, oh, you have to learn next year. So I go ahead and I learn next year and I use the techniques I learned from ALx on how to learn stuff quickly, right? Harnessing the power of community and all of the information and the knowledge that has been embedded deep inside of me through ALx. So I was able to learn and I've been able to grow.

Team Collaboration in HNG

So the difference here that I'm just emphasizing HNG is a tough working environment with a difficult boss, a product manager, back end developers, front end developers, designers, product marketers. Like in a, like the way it's going to be probably, I'm assuming is the way it's going to be, like in a large company. So you're nothing. Building anything by yourself from scratch that only you work on the login authentication only, you work on the homepage only, you work on admin page only you work on this.

Collaborative Work Experience

No, you're not building anything from scratch by yourself, but all of you collectively, just the way you would do in an organization. You build something meaningful together and you ship it. That's the plan. So there's a DevOps team, there's a back end team, there's a front end team, there's, you know, and as the program progresses, the numbers reduce. So you're getting like, okay, this is a back end person I'm working with. This is the front end person. And our mission is to bring this feature live, like from stage seven.

Feature Development Process

I was assigned a feature PDF summarizer and I understand how the feature is supposed to work. All I have is the idea of. How many job, sorry. Okay. All I have is like the idea of how the feature is going to work. And then the back end people create the endpoint and then they give it to me and they're like, okay, so you're supposed to integrate this on the front end and it's my job to do that. I don't know if you get my point.

Challenges in HNG

So I, no one is there to teach you like, hey, fever, all you need to do this, the center div, do this. To align this, you have to make the design picture perfect and you have to make the feature work right. So ALX is a learning environment, so you have your community. Like, hey guys, I don't know how you how to do this, please. And someone's like, oh, let's get on the call. Let me help you. Let me show you this. Let me show you.

Isolation in HNG Environment

Someone here just spoke about his working environment. Like, he's the only one in his company who does something and it gets lonely. Yeah, that's the way it is at HNG. So it's like, everyone there is, like, battling for their own survival. So no one really has your time the way it is. In, like, a working setting, I would assume. So you're there to battle it out by yourself. So you're whatever you have. A lot of people in H and G have, like, five years experience, not just learning, but also some of them working experience.

Experience Levels Among Interns

They just wanted to try something new. That's why they're at HNG. So I think I've been able to establish the facts of HNG is a tough working environment, Alex is a tough learning environment. So how you graduate from Harvard University, and then you go and do an internship in maybe one of these big companies, it may be paid or unpaid internships. Some people do internships for one year. It's working internships.

Comparison of Internships

So you're working, but in this case, you're not paying them and they're not paying you. It's just like a win situation. They're getting reputation as one of the, like, if you can survive H and G working environments, you'll be able to survive in, like, most working ecosystems out there that exist based on what people say. And if you can survive, Alex, I don't think there's anything that you cannot do in this life.

Surviving Through Challenges

Forget about work. Forget about software engineering. It's like every aspect of life. Alx you survive, you'll be able to thrive with human relationships. You'll be able to thrive with work environment and your mental health. And I think you get my point. So, Bishop, you want to say something?

Bishop's Feedback

Okay, yeah. So, yeah. Go ahead, bishop. Okay. Like, favor. Okay. Okay. Thank you so much. Favor like, that is, like, so exquisite. I think you've done so much of marketing for HNg, probably more than the marketing team does. But aside that, right. That is, like, really cool. And everything you've said is.

Validation of Points Raised

You've said most of what you said, like, correct. Like, you know, everything. Personally. Personally, this is what I would say. And this is what. This is what, I did, right. This is what I did myself. This is what I did myself. So, you can. Okay. I don't know. I don't. I don't want to look, like I'm talking down on the. On, like, hng.

Transitioning from AlX to HNG

I know how effective it is, trust me. Like, the experience. Otherwise, I have a few friends who have gone through it. but then this is it. Instead of getting that experience in HNg, right, from your month seven in AlX, you can start to apply for jobs. And when. I mean, like, apply. A lot of people, funny enough, make this mistake, right?

Job Application Strategies

They want to have the best, they want to have, like, the best conditions for the applications they make and the places where they apply to. But then this is what I did personally and every single friend of mine that I've told to do this and did it actually, like, worked for them. So, you're verified on LinkedIn, you have a Twitter, account. You interact with people.

Building Professional Relationships

You get into people's DM's, not spam them, get into people's DM's, responsibly create relationships. And then you tell someone, hey, I just finished this program. This is what I've been able to do as a front end developer, as a backend developer. I would like to work for your company, and I do not mind getting paid. Look, you would be in a company, an actual company now, not a program you'll be working, not getting paid.

Receiving Financial Support During Internship

In fact, what happened to me was that one of the senior engineers in the company was like, hey, you can just be doing this work and, like, not getting paid. So he decided to give me a stipend from his salary. Now, it may not work that way for everybody, right? But you will get the same experience, usually after three months of doing that, in quotes, free work.

Gaining Valuable Work Experience

If you like, giving value to the company, they would most likely offer you an employment. They would most likely offer you unemployment. And even if they don't offer you an employment, you have that experience. That is an actual working experience, not a coy working environment, an actual working experience. And then you can, it makes your applications then subsequently easier, because now you have an experience.

Networking and Recommendations

Or you can do the same thing eventually and usually within that three months, you are, like, interacting with people. And even if that company doesn't want to, like, retain you, people in that company know people who. They're going to say, like, oh, this guy is really good. You can hire him. They're going, like, saying words for you. They're going to, like, give you references.

Perspective on HNG Experience

So what I'm saying is that I am Sir J said he's like, fine with his signature, g. I am not fine with it. I'm going to not fine with it. I don't really. Hello? Can anyone hear me? Yes, I can hear you. Yes. Yeah, we can hear you. Okay. Okay. Okay. So it's not a bad thing. I'm just saying it is not necessary from Alx.

Discussion on Learning Environments

You should be putting your foot in the. In the river, not looking for another swimming pool where you're going to practice what the river looks like. It's not. No, it's not. That's just what I'm trying to tell you. It's not a swimming pool to practice what a river would look like. It's more like a. It's. It's more like, you know, trying to, like.

Frustration and Adapting to Circumstances

Okay, so now, that scenario that you gave you get frustrated. I get frustrated quite easily. Not easily. I have a very high, threshold for stress. I can tell. And the fact if I didn't. Couldn't tell before, the past few weeks have proved doing all of this without electricity in my house. But it's not a practice area.

Challenges Faced by Participants

That's. No, that's what you're not understanding now, you see, it's not as popular. Hng is not as popular as you would say. Maybe like other learning programs. Like, what do they call that one? There's one that Shegon did. Old school. Yeah, not as popular as old school.

Perception of Different Learning Programs

And. Oh, Alx is the. You know, is like, probably a. You know, I didn't know how to put it, but it's like a role model that all these people are looking up like, yeah, one day they'll be like, Alx because they're not as popular. Right. Look, I'm sorry to say this old school is trash. I'm sorry to say old school is trash.

Conversations Around Program Effectiveness

Big trash. I think you should stop. I think you should stop. Please stop condemning their distance like that. The truth is we, Guys, I think we should maybe host another space. Maybe next. Okay, yeah, you're right. You're right.

Organizing Collaborative Discussions

Yeah, let's. Let's not take his time. Very. Space with them. That's what we should do. Yeah. Why don't you guys. Hey, Daniel, why don't you, like, try to reach out to someone at HNG, and then we can do it like an Alex at HNG kind of space. Julian, I have two of them here already.

Engaging HNG Participants

I would be happy to get. Eric. I take Eric also. Yes, Eric is in H. Erica. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Yeah, I'm not talking about. Yeah, we could. We could do something with the students already, but, like, we could also, like, do something with the staff, but, like, so I think about this program.

Reflecting on the Program's Value

But, like, honestly, it sounds like a good program. And yeah, I understand your frustration, but about it, right? Because, like, you know, but I think, you know, the problem comes from us. Like, it's, you know, if our students feel that they need something like this, it's either that they actually need it and we are completely wrong or they do not need it and then there's something we do that or we don't do to make sure that they understand that they don't need it and they don't waste their time there.

Identifying Areas of Improvement

Right. It's one of the other. And, like, there's no other. There's no other conclusion here. It's like either we're doing something wrong or we do something wrong. So it's all about us, but, like, from what? No, sir. Juliande not doing anything wrong. You're doing everything right, honestly.

Acknowledging Team Efforts

No, I'm not. You're doing everything right. I said, like, if we feel that it's not fair or if we feel that, like, you guys should not go there and you still go there, it's. That it means that we are doing something wrong. I don't feel. I don't feel. I don't feel this way.

Encouraging Open Dialogue

I think we, you know, maybe we could do something like this. But I think, you know, if you're doing it already, like, why would we, like, you know, duplicate it? It sounds like, you know, you don't pay anything for this. Are you. No, no, it's free.

Understanding Program Structure

It's two months. So, like, you know, I guess it's fine. I don't know what their business model is. Like, maybe you're building the product for them to sell and, like, it's totally fine. Like, you know, if it's a win situation, like, there are, like, a lot of internships where you don't get paid and you get, like, you know, a good, a good learning experience on the work environment and it's totally fine.

Imparting Learning on Future Internships

So, like, I think as soon as you, like, take it as an internship, but. And, you know, you're not gonna, like, have a, you know, a job at the end. And if it's fine for you, then, like, fine, like, you know, if it's a win situation, then it's good. If we think that we can do better, we should do.

Exploring New Program Opportunities

We should do it again. We should do a program that just does this. But. So earlier you were mentioning something about. Earlier. You mentioned something about, like, a space with a staff at HMD. Maybe I'll set that up once I'm done. Yeah, we could do that.

Communication for Future Engagement

Yeah, we can do that. What is this? Sajay, with all love in my heart for you, please don't listen to favor. Thank you so much. Sajay, don't listen to favorite. I, Thank you so much. Sir, I'm going to, like, send you. I'll send you a DM.

Final Thoughts

Sir, I'll send you a DM. And, I know what Alx can do. I don't like the pipeline. No. I don't want it to continue. Feel frustrated because we should be, like, either the end or we should, like, build this box. We should be the end of the pipeline.

Concluding Remarks

That's what you feel. But the problem is, like, if. Exactly. We should be the end of the pipeline. Yeah. You see, it's a fact that we're not. Because, like, some students. I don't like it's apparently. It's actually, like, not a lot, but, like, some students feel like they need something else.

Discussion on Student Needs

So it means that, like, we need to provide that to them or otherwise, like, we need to assume that we're not going to be the end of the pipeline. So we can't have it both ways. The reality is, in front of our eyes, like, we have, like, three students on the call who have done alxem.

Acknowledging Current Satisfaction

Like, they are doing h and G, and they're happy about it. So, like, this is the reality. They are happy about their choice. And look, like Bishop, I agree with you. I don't feel like they need it. But it doesn't matter what you feel. It doesn't matter what I feel.

Validating Student Perspectives

What matters is what they feel and what they do. And at the end of the day, that's what they do. That's how they feel. So, like, you need to have this conversation with them, and especially if they're happy about this program. Like, honestly, like, it sounds like. It sounds like a good program to me.

Gratitude and Closing

Okay, so, Julian, the thing is that. I'm unhappy on your behalf. All right, guys, let's. Sorry. Yeah, yeah. I. To another topic. Does anyone have any other question? No more. I wanted to comment on that.

Scheduling Future Conversations

Let's move on. Okay. We're going to organize another conversation about just this. Maybe next week if you want. I'll be joining if you want. But, like, it's over now. Like, we have a break because, like, not everybody's like.

Acknowledgment of Time and Effort

Yeah. Thank you for the time, Julian. I wanted to ask a question. Right. So, in essence, we're all concerned with getting the best of our ALx Se programs. Can we post a space on that. Maybe next week when you are free, I would communicate with you.

Continued Support and Communication

And then I. And I think a few students would organize this place for next week. That's what. Sorry about how we can, like, get best of our SB program. Yeah. Okay. All right.

Closing Remarks

I hope you already know, but. Yes. All right. No, no, trust me, I already know. But, like, just to re educate. And I also wanted to say something right. I noticed that this year has been a bit rough for all the Alex students.

Reflection on Student Experience

We are very active on Twitter, but I guess life happens, right? Because everybody's trying to make sure they get the, like, just finish their ALS Se programs and stuff like that. So I wanted to ask if we can, like, make this more regular, especially for the cohorts to blended students.

Engagement with Finalists

Now, I'm speaking on behalf of all the finalists in excel sheep program, because at the hubs here, they are like the babies of the house. The last born. I don't. I don't know if you get that joke, but that's. That's all I'm trying to say.

Emphasis on Regular Engagement

So I would really love it if we can, like, make this much more regular and have them in mind so that they will not also be killed with imposter syndrome. And I've said that with, like, how many times today to Cheggun. So.

Final Gratitude

So I would. I would still communicate with you, sir, but I think I would let you go. Thank you for always answering our questions. You are like the most of the tech space. I don't know. Let me know over hype you go. I personally appreciate everything you do for us.

Concluding the Session

And I know. Love it. Love it is like, I don't let me know why I. Too much. But we all. Love it. Is just another voiceless view. No, no. Those argument, please. All right, guys, I'm gonna wish you a happy weekend.

Encouragement to Build During Break

Please make sure that you build stuff this weekend. And yeah, share what you're building with us on Twitter. And I talk to you maybe next week, maybe with or without a hnng. I don't know. All right, have a good one, everybody.

Farewell and Acknowledgment

Thank you, everyone. And I'll see you later. Yeah. All right. Thank you, sir. Julian.