Space Summary
The Twitter Space The week that was and is to come. Dr Eoin Lenihan & Hermann Kelly hosted by IrexitFreedom. Join Dr. Eoin Lenihan & Hermann Kelly from the Irish Freedom Party – Cumann na Saoirse in a profound reflection on the past week's events and their plans for the future. The space covers topics including political landscapes, community engagement, historical influences, and leadership's role in driving change. Discover insights into the Irish Freedom Party's vision, goals, and strategies for empowering the Irish community. Explore the significance of activism, community involvement, and the party's commitment to shaping a better future for Ireland.
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Questions
Q: What were the main topics covered in the past week?
A: The discussion centered around recent events, challenges, and achievements.
Q: How does the Irish Freedom Party plan to navigate current political landscapes?
A: The party aims to address key issues, advocate for change, and connect with the community.
Q: What are the primary goals of the Irish Freedom Party for the upcoming period?
A: The party focuses on implementing strategic initiatives, fostering growth, and driving positive change.
Q: How does the party engage with the Irish community?
A: The Irish Freedom Party values community participation, feedback, and collaboration.
Q: Why is historical context essential in shaping the party's decisions?
A: Understanding historical events and their impact helps guide the party's direction and policies.
Q: How does leadership play a role in the party's vision?
A: Strong leadership is crucial for steering the party towards its goals and ensuring effective representation.
Q: What are some concerns addressed during the space discussion?
A: Various concerns, aspirations, and challenges facing the Irish community were brought to light.
Q: How does political activism empower individuals within the community?
A: Political activism provides a platform for individuals to voice concerns, drive change, and participate in decision-making.
Q: What is the significance of community involvement for political movements?
A: Community engagement fosters unity, support, and collective action in pursuing common objectives.
Q: How does the Irish Freedom Party contribute to shaping the future of Ireland?
A: Through strategic planning, advocacy, and community engagement, the party influences the nation's trajectory.
Highlights
Time: 01:15:20
Reflecting on Recent Events Delving into the significance of past occurrences in shaping present perspectives.
Time: 01:30:45
Future Plans and Strategies Outlining the Irish Freedom Party's roadmap for upcoming endeavors and initiatives.
Time: 01:45:10
Community Engagement and Feedback Discussing the importance of community input in guiding political decisions and actions.
Time: 02:00:25
Historical Context and Decision-Making Exploring how historical context influences the party's policies and direction.
Time: 02:15:30
Leadership for Progress Emphasizing the role of leadership in driving positive change and advancement.
Time: 02:30:55
Addressing Community Concerns Bringing attention to key concerns and aspirations within the Irish community.
Time: 02:45:40
Activism and Empowerment Highlighting the empowering nature of political activism for individuals.
Time: 03:00:15
Importance of Community Involvement Demonstrating the value of community engagement in political movements.
Time: 03:15:50
Shaping Ireland's Future Exploring how the Irish Freedom Party contributes to shaping the nation's future.
Time: 03:30:25
Unity and Collaboration Promoting unity and collaboration for collective progress and development.
Key Takeaways
- Reflecting on key events and developments of the past week.
- Sharing perspectives on current political landscapes and challenges.
- Discussing strategies and initiatives for the future.
- Insights on the Irish Freedom Party's stance on important issues.
- Exploring the party's vision and goals moving forward.
- Engaging in meaningful dialogue on political activism and empowerment.
- Highlighting the importance of community involvement in political movements.
- Acknowledging the significance of historical context in shaping political decisions.
- Emphasizing the role of leadership in driving change and progress.
- Addressing concerns and aspirations of the Irish community.
Behind the Mic
Welcome and Hopes for Discussion
Hello and everybody is very welcome to this spaces on Saturday. Sorry, Sunday the 8 September. And hopefully we'll have a good discussion and we'll learn something about Ireland, about Europe, but the world we live in, what we can do to make it a better place. Very welcome everybody.
Personal Updates and Family Topics
Owen, can you. So we just had a few people. Oh, very good. How's yourself? Do you have a good week? Oh, yeah, very good. Big day tomorrow, everybody in the house is going back to school. We have four young ones going to be shipped off, but unfortunately it doesn't mean anything really positive because school also means music and sport in the evenings and it's now they're all big enough that means a hell of a lot of driving for me.
Parenting and School Responsibilities
Yeah, well, I know from experience it's becoming a parent as it reached the teenage years and maybe even a bit before that, it becomes a bit of a taxi service between practice and music and sport. I remember my father once turning up to. I had a hurling trainer. I used to play for a team called the Myha and Jerry hurling team. My followers headmaster in dairy anyway, he turned up an hour late to training to clack me.
Memorable Experiences from Youth
I remember jumping up and down and smashing a heart in the ground and bucking and anger and fucking, but there was a. But he was a big guy and there's nothing I could do about it. So there we go. There you go. Exactly. It was all in vain. But let's look at the. I think most irish people are going to have some experience to that of the, either the mother or the father forgetting completely to pick them up and hanging around for an hour and then them pretending.
Parents and Their Fluctuating Memories
My father used to be great at that. We'd go into sport and Innis and he went to pick us up on the way out from Limerick, where he was working. And he'd often go out way on home, completely forget, like. And then he'd remember like an hour later and he'd come back in and he would. He'd be like, oh, Jesus, I just had to go out and do this, that, or you knew damn well, like, he completely forgot.
Transformation in Parenting Norms
Let me tell you a story, and it shows you how much Ireland has changed and how it would be unthinkable to do it now. But then it was quite normal. Well, not normal, but unusual. My aunt Erdna up in Derry, she used to go to this big. There used to be this big shop, Austens, you call it, in the center, up above the Guildhall in Derry, biggest kind of department store. Yeah, it was quite well to do place.
Cultural Shifts in Childcare Practices
It wasn't a kind of. It was quite expensive, high quality goods in it. And at that time, now it must have been in the early seventies, late sixties, early seventies, she was with. Took the kid in the pram up the Austins. And what they used to do at the time was they used to leave the pram outside the store and in the. And in they would go. And this day she went to.
Community Safety in Childhood
Had the pram, or a kid, I think was Brian, or Paul. I think it was Brian, my cousin was in the pram, and up she went. And then she went in shopping, away, went home, up to Cregan. And then after a few hours and someone said, where's Brian? Where's the baby, Brian? Oh, my God. I left him in the, like, she left them in the pram outside the shop. And she left them there for hours not thinking about it.
Changing Views on Child Safety
And I just. But just the idea of leaving a kid outside of pram, outside of shop as you go in, like it just wouldn't happen now. Well, they could get away with it, you see. I suppose because they were so relaxed. Because they could be relaxed, you know. Shows how much culture has changed. Yeah. That Ireland was much safer then.
Evolving Cultural Attitudes
People would expect that. Yeah, I can leave the kid here. Not a bother. Off we go. And if something happened, somebody else would jump in. Another thing which has changed as well. She came back, there were some old grannies around the kid kind of, you know, hot tutting. And another thing which has changed dramatically as well is this whole idea. Not only the expectation that your father would give you a smack, or your mother would give you a smack for bad behavior or whatever, but also, it's hard to think now, but also neighbors would also.
Cultural Shifts in Discipline
When I was a kid, it would be expected if you're caught badly behaved or you're throwing stones, or neighbor would get you and give you a smack as well, and then take you down to your father and expect him to give you a smack in front of him. Like that's. That's fairly. That's virtually unthinkable now, that you would hit another person's child. Well, you see that it's a meme going around now that like a lot of the young ones today would absolutely.
Reflection on Childhood Freedom
They think that this thing of the seventies and eighties, when the kids would be out all day running around like, I live in a rural area, we would just go out and my gang of friends, we'd spend all day up at the pitch, or else we would out at the hurl and feel like. Or else we would just be rambling around the forest and whatever there. And it was the stereotype, like, of that if you went to his house, you'd get a sandwich or whatever for lunch, like, and then if he went to mine, you'd get the same and you wouldn't show up at home until 08:00, till it was nearly dark, like, you know.
Concerns Over Student Accommodation
And that's just how it was. And it was fantastic. Yeah, yeah. You know, it was really good. Another thing I'd like to bring up is, have you seen what's going on? What happened in Sligo this week with the student? Oh, yeah. What was supposed to be a student apartment. So 179, was he? So this building in Sligo that was supposed to be used for students is now no longer being used for students.
The Situation in Sligo
And 179 asylum seekers are to be housed in this building, which was intended previously for student accommodation. It's called Milliken Court and it's in the town of Sligo. And I believe that there was a bit of furor and there was false promises about it a year ago when Mark McShari TD raised about it. But basically the owners of this Milligan court and Ben Bulbin court have stopped letting their accommodations to students and instead it's going to asylum seekers.
Impact of Asylum Seekers on Local Communities
And there's also a huge. And I mean huge, because during the european election, I went with James Conway and another member went to, they are building a huge direct provision centre in Sligo, right beside a girls school. And, like, the safety aspect or the lack of safety aspect or thought for the safety of the girls who are going to this school is mind blowing. I read on grip during the week on that story that there was something like 503rd level students will now be left short to places because those two buildings are off the market.
Concerns Regarding Asylum Policy
And Carol Nolan brought up that this has gone back now to 2022. Same article that said that 19 student accommodation providers have now turned their buildings over to the asylum seeking racket. And that's 30 sites nationwide, 30 sites that are meant to be housing third level students. And that was then in 2022. God only knows what it is now. So it's just the scam is gone.
Consequences for Families and Tourism
It's not just the tourism sector that's going to die in the west, but also it's got to drive up costs to families who are going to have to shell out unbelievable amounts of money to send their kids off to college to stay over, or else the kids are going to have to commute from home and that, again, means buying a car, maybe, or it means, it certainly means losing the social element of getting out on your own. 2ft. That college is great for, you know.
Accommodation Issues for Students
So I was in Donegal there two summers ago. Well, I'm in Donegal every summer, but two summers ago, I remember in. It was in the shop and bought the newspaper and basically talked about students, third level students, who were studying in letter Kenny their inability to find somewhere to stay. And they were having to travel as far west as Burton Port in west Donegal, that they could find a place to stay at all.
Challenges of the Accommodation Sector
Now, if you look at three, let's just examine three aspects of, let's say, accommodation sector and Ireland at a minute. So you have the hotel accommodation and b. And b accommodation, things that are used for tourism now, over. Well over one third of all hotel beds at the minute are taken up, paid for by the state. Welfare tourists or economic migrants are in these areas.
Impact of Government Policies
Right? So that has destroyed the tourism industry and instead of like, we're strangling the golden girth of tourism and instead we're actually making it know that the taxpayer has to fund people who are coming here. So that's the tourism industry where the government is strangling. And then we have, as we're discussing now, student accommodation. So these apartment blocks that were built, purpose built for student accommodation, mainly at third level.
Economic Factors Affecting Accommodation
Now, as you made reference by two years ago, 19 of these in the country have been shut down to give over to economic migrants again. And another third, I would say a third sector, which is hugely damaged by political decisions of the uni party, is that all people's homes, many have been shut down because why? Because it was more profitable, given that there was very heavy restrictions and regulations in place for the running of old people's homes, that they were very onerous on the owners of these and then the government would place heavy restrictions on them.
Shift from Elderly Care to Migrant Housing
And then the department of integration, like rudder, Greg Orman's, splashed up with all the money, would come along and say, here, we'll give you hundreds of thousands of euros, guaranteed every three months that you can house whatever 30, 40 or 50 asylum seekers, economic migrants in your former old people's home. So there we have people. Tourists are prevented from coming here. That has the knock on effect.
Consequences for Local Communities
Look at the D hotel, for example, in Rahada. Huge hotel. That's where all the tourism. All the tourists who come into south Louth, that's where they would stay. They would go. They would stay in Rohrada, they would go out in town, they would go to the shops, they would support the coffee shops, people buying presents for friends abroad. So there we have the tourism industry being destroyed.
Hidden Social Costs of Political Decisions
We have huge expense and difficulty find student accommodation for students. And all people being. Who have built and contributed to our country and building up our country are literally being thrown out in the street, all at the behest of political decisions by the government, using our money to make irish people second class citizens and treated like dogs in their own country.
Political Discontent and Public Awareness
And you got to say, do you know what? There's some in desperately wrong in the political culture and I don't know, cultural psyche of Ireland at the minute, that's allowed. I was surprised by the education numbers, to be honest with you. And I think most people would be, even those who are clued in now that 19 accommodations taken out of circulation is.
Labor Market Difficulties for Students
Was quite shocking to me. And you see, going back a while now, there's been a massive erosion also in workup students. That's another thing of this low wage kind of economy that they're moving towards, that service industry jobs, pub jobs, waiting jobs, a lot of jobs that students used to do, you know, on a part time basis. They're gone now.
Significant Changes in Employment Opportunities
They're gone out. They're being taken over by a lot of immigrant workers. And so there you have on top of that, say, where parents, they used to get a break when the kid would go and, you know, help put themselves through college. That's on the parents back. And now this on top of that, having to pay colossal sums of money to try and put the pair, the kids into accommodation, you know, because obviously greater competition means higher prices in the private market.
Consequences of Economic Pressures
And so I got. I don't know how anyone could be a parent anymore for a kid going to college. And that. With that in mind, the statistics show that we are way, way above the european average for third level university graduates, which means that we have a huge amount of young people being saddled with debt coming out of university, or else we have a lot of parents taking on a big amount of debt that they never had to.
Community Concerns Over Crime and Safety
No aspect which has happened, actually. If any of the listeners want to come in and talk about these subjects, they're more than welcome. Another aspect of the consequence of immigration you see there during the week as well. It lets in the west, bit more to south now, Galway. A councillor, Noel Thomas, you've hit the news quite a few times there last year. He's raised about the fact that there's a lot of gang fights going on between migrants and travelers in Rhone, Galway, all the time, it's persistent, it's been going on for some time, and yet you never see it.
Gang Violence and Its Media Representation
It's never been referenced in the national media. So, like, so much crime, migrant made crime unnecessary. Now, I don't believe that all irish people are kind of militarisis, and there's no crime in Ireland before. It's ridiculous idea, right? There's. Okay, Ireland, we have our own criminals. We have our own badly raised children, badly behaved people, and criminality was a fact before immigration.
The Link Between Immigration and Crime
But the thing is, if you bring in a large number of unbetted males into your country, doesn't matter where you are, crime will increase. And given that, for example, last year, 85% of the people coming into Dublin airport claim an asylum. 85% of them. We don't know their name, where they're from. Do they have a criminal record? Of course. Of course. There's not just a correlation.
Rising Crime Rates Linked to Immigration
There's a causality. Increased crime. It's happened all over Europe, be it in Sweden, in Germany, in Italy, in France, and we can see some countries, the nationalities of some countries, Morocco, Algeria, these countries, that their individuals from these countries have contributed massively and, like, way more than other countries to the crime rate, but that there is gang fights between migrants and irish travelers going on frequently in Galway and it's not reported in the national media is.
Changes in Community Dynamics
Wow, that's incredible. Well, Galway is where I went to university. You know, I spent a lot of years there, and it's only up the road to me, that was actually the biggest close to me, because I'm norclare. So for me to think of Galway in this way is shocking, you know, because it was really the arts and music, cultural capital, you know, of. Of Ireland, you know, city wise.
Cultural Shifts and Local Sentiments
I know cork people, ill annoy them now. But Galway really was special. And to imagine this going on is. It's just. It's just over the course of ten years, the change has been astonishing. But as you say there, you rightly say that you can't have gangs. You know, definition being, you know, people most likely, most usually of a same ethnic or at least socioeconomic or certain background without poor government planning.
Consequences of Poor Government Planning
And the core poor government planning is what we're seeing right now. When they're forcing, God only knows how many, 178. It'll be single unvetted males into Sligo. They've been shoving them in all around the country, and all they're guaranteeing is that. That Sligo. There will be gang warfare in Sligo in x number of years. It's bound to happen.
Looking at Global Trends
You can't just take a group of people, drop them in. I see this from, you know, experience here in Germany. I've covered it. That, again, was a big part of my doctorate. It's. And anyone with a pair of eyes can see over decades, the failure of this. This here in. On the continent, it's absolute insanity. Now that they have this evidence from Galway and other parts of the country, of course, where these guys, a lot of these guys who came in under false pretenses in the early zeros, late nineties, a lot of the kids there, like, have grown up and are getting into trouble, like you say here.
Media Coverage vs. Community Reality
And it's been kept out of the news. And what that means is they know it's a policy failure. They've no. They know it's failed over decades and they're still pushing ahead. And not just pushing ahead, they're ramping it up. So it's absolutely. I know a few people from around there do ESC. That's for. That's just outside Galway.
Community Under Strain
Yeah, yeah, that's right. It's just a suburb, really. It's one of the smaller parts of the. And I know people, there's. There's been huge trouble there. I believe they're african nigerian migrants, most of them, and really gang orientated. They're into their drill music, which is kind of London, because that's where they felt.
Cultural Influences and Local Issues
That's where they came from. They came from via London. They were staying in London a long time before they came to Ireland. They came to Ireland for the easy passport and the free stuff. But drill music is all about Africans going around stabbing culture, right? And so they. They have formed like a bit of a ghetto in parts of Galway. And there we remember, was it last year where it came out that the name Mohammed was the most popular name in Galway city?
Publishing and Reporting Challenges
So it's incredible. And then, sure, what were about five, six weeks after the stabbing of a caddock priest outside of army barracks in Galway in Ranmore. And as we said, no talk about it. It's been dropped into the memory hole as if it never happened. And like the idea that an islamic radical, or, sorry, just a muslim, doing what it says in the tin, what it says in the quran, to go around and stab or behead or decapitate unbelievers.
Crisis in Community Response
He's doing what he's told to do in the quran that we are importing. No, sorry, not we, the government. Despite the stations of the politicians currently in charge of our country and also the media class who are happy to support and encourage them to do so. They're all in favor of mass unrestricted immigration. They're all in favor of EU open borders and EU free movement, which allows hundreds of thousands of people to come in here.
Economic Impact of Migration
They're displacing ourselves. They made housing more expensive, they make labor cheaper because we have an oversupply of cheap labor in an open market. Wages go down, demand for houses go up, prices go up. They're displacing our old people from old people's homes. They're displacing our young people from student accommodation, and they're destroying our tourism industry.
Concerns Over Community Outcomes
What is going on is absolutely, there's no win here. Where's the win? Where's the upside? Absolutely zero upside for irish people that I can see. Zero. That Councillor Noel Thomas. Yeah, as you point out, fair dues to him. Now, I know he's gone in with independent Ireland, which I can't stand behind in any way, but he seems to be a sound head.
Affirmation of Local Leadership
Like, I know he gets some stick because he was Fianna fall, but to his credit, he had to leave the party because he stood with the people, you know, at that, in what you may call Roscathe when that went off. And here now again, he came out and very clearly stated this time around that there is an absolute direct correlation between migration and crime.
Community Perspectives on Migration Effects
And he rubbished in, I saw during the week that grip report on it, that he rubbished McEntee's claims that there's no link between migration and crime. He says, I can tell you from what's happening in Galway right now, they're absolutely. We just have to look at every other country like this. Like Sweden, for example, has actually, because the security situation in Sweden had deteriorated so much as a consequence of mass unvaried immigration.
Political Changes in Sweden
Now they have a right wing government, a nationalist government, where the Sweden Democrats, for example, are a minor party in government. And they, because the change in policies have been able to turn the country around completely. And now immigrants are now leaving Sweden because they've made the free availability of free stuff, accommodation and welfare, much more difficult to get.
Reflections on Recent Changes
They've been much tougher on crime and people see that their chances of getting citizenship and free stuff is starting to dry up. And now there's actually been a reversal that migrants are starting to leave Sweden. And thats a massive reversal because Sweden was a country in which in the last five years, you get between 250 and 350 bombs going off between these drug gangs fighting between each other.
Call to Political Action and Engagement
So, but it also shows that if people get together, they register and im going to have Susan on next. If you stress to people the importance of registering, devote to participating in the political process, to join political party, to get out canvassing, to get out campaigning where I'm pleased to say that I was freedom part of a candidate there in Galway west dorm. McMahon will be running for ourselves.
Promoting Local Political Engagement
Iran is a council candidate and there are some good other independent council candidates there. This guy PJ oflaherty who facilitated me speaking. I was in Cairo but Dawn McMahon is running for the Irish Freedom Party there in Galway west. So if what we want to do is give people an alternative and give people a voice to shout against the madness of what these, the political class, the Uni party are doing together.
Engaging Contributions from the Community
So Suzanne, would you like to come on there please? Hi guys, thanks for allowing me have to space. Hi. Hi own I just have kind of a medalist so I hope I'm speaking. Okay. Just a few points I want to make. Just touching on what you said hermandinal. Firstly, I just want to say I live in Juncondra.
Personal Testimonies of Migration Impact
There was three houses allocated for asylum seekers last year between Spar and the Carthage pub. They're managed very well because virtually Ahearn lives in the area, which is ridiculous. And I had murder with him last year, but somehow they contained them. But I was out for a walk last week with the dog. 01:00 at lunchtime walking by the cat and cage, three of them standing outside the pub with a polish guy doing a drug swap.
Changing Neighborhood Dynamics
01:00 at middle of the day in a lovely area. Those three houses were supposed to be student accommodation for GCU and they were fucking allotted to these three asylum houses. And that makes my blood boil. So taxpayers who pay taxes, whose kids are going to GCU, can't get them into student accommodation locally and I'm monitoring that.
Community Oversight and Reporting
I walk by there every day. I have the manager's number who is actually a nice guy, and if I see one of them standing outside anywhere, I report them. Second thing, I just want to bring up Madeleine, my partner in crime. She had a load of tents at the roundabout there in Kulak.
Local Crime and Community Engagement
I'm sure people know about that who live in Dublin. They had a community watch meeting with the police last week, a neighborhood watch. The police came down and it was shocking. And we put a thing up on Twitter about it, x about it, but we couldn't get into all the details. But the Guardian basically said they are totally under resourced.
Resource Constraints in Local Law Enforcement
They have nobody to man the phones, they cannot manage the criminality locally. Madeleine got quite annoyed. And she actually stood up and said, you need to pick a side. You need to be working with the people or the EU puppets, but you can't do both. So basically, if your car is broken into or if something goes wrong locally, you know that they don't answer 999 anymore.
Challenges in Community Safety
They admit that they're under resourced. So we have called out this week, there has Begi out there who are pissed off and we're calling out strongly for a whistleblower, somebody who come forward. There must be a guard, totally pissed off with the way they're trying to manage crime. And she asked them the question, if you can't manage crime locally now, how are you going to manage another 30,000 unvetted illegals coming in to?
Community Calls for Accountability
And they said they have no clue. Third point, I've only got four points, so bear with me. Third point, where I'm getting a lot of people contacting us, Herman, about the register to vote, a lot of younger people who are struggling, who do I vote for? Again? I'm going back to say national parties like your own. We're not canvassing, but we're saying there are great independent and nationalist parties out there will help you know, connect in your areas.
Mobilizing the Youth Vote
And one particular girl is messaging me from New York. She's there for the summer working. She's from Killarney. And she said to me last night, her mother in Killarney town, 43, working in the local supermarket, is harassed every night by these illegal immigrants. Catcalls and horrific things. They haven't touched her.
Community Concerns about Safety
So I'm going to link her up. Jerry Bly is going to link me up locally. Herman, if you have somebody locally, you know, anybody in the area that you can message me just to give this woman somebody in the area who can, you know, answer questions, because people in some of these towns are totally on their own guardy, don't answer the phone, don't care.
Local Support Networks
And women like this are being harassed. And I think it's horrendous. And my very last point is, I know they did a referendum down in Cork about the migrant centre going into the pub. And I know, I'm just going to say. I'm just hearing that Thornton hall might be doing something similar.
Community Engagement in Local Governance
I know these kind of referendums are not, you know, legal per se, but I think, you know, I'm definitely keen on getting involved and even helping on them because it will give feedback that people, when they don't want a migrant center going into their area, they have some recourse to go and vote and say no.
Community Driven Initiatives
And very last point. Bushy Park, Terra nure. I saw Terry Kay put up something tonight.
Discussion on Bushy Park Tents
Guards all over there today moving tents from Bushy park. Posh bushy park in Terran yoor. No problem. People in Terranure don't want tents. Move them off somewhere. Shipped them off to a working class area. Makes my blood boil. They're my points. I hope somebody gets something that's fast.
Suzanne's Acknowledgment and Canon's Introduction
Very good, Suzanne. Thanks very much. Do you know what? I'm going to do something a bit unusual tonight and there's canon here as he has requested to speak. So give him a microphone for a bit and has hear what he has to say. Now, as far as I know, Cannon, that I know your real name and stuff, but only I understand you're a musician and I don't know if what you say is for the purpose of publicizing your music career or if it's genuine and it's heartfelt on what you have to say. But here, come on and let's hear what you have to say.
Cannon's Introduction and Music Background
Well, how are you? Very good. Herman Kelly is my name. Oh, you're Herman Kelly? Yeah. Are you the candidate president of the Irish Freedom Party? I'm a candidate in county life. Okay, I've heard a few bits. Give us a, give us a quick intro, but because maybe there's some people here on the space. Don't know about yourself. I know a little bit. So give us a. You're not a magician, you're a musician, is that right? Musician, yes. What kind of music do you do? 13 years of musician. My father was a famous musician in the eighties and nineties. Tell us, what kind of music do you do? What kind of music did your father do? And where's your father from originally?
Musical Influences and Current Work
I make all kinds of music and father's from Jamaica. He makes reggae music. But I grew up in Ireland, so I was able to be influenced by many different sounds. That's kind of why I love migrants, because they brought a lot of different cultures, which I adapted to. And what type of music do you do now? Currently I'm working on k pop, riggy. Right. Well, I'm also saying that I'm not an expert. I'm not an expert, so I won't make any comment myself. The kids would know more about that. Okay. So. But you have made pretty, let's be honest, very explosive, let's say provocative statements in the past that irish people don't know if you said all irish people, but irish people are racist and I think you've also made physical threats to irish people as well.
Denial of Claims
Is that correct? That's false. Not all. Not all irish people are racist, and I don't threaten anybody. I'm more into self defense. Tell us one thing. So your followers, jamaican, do you believe in the right of people in Jamaica to make their own laws? They have a right to decide their own destiny and make their own laws in this world? I think the laws are already in Jamaica. It's up to the people to uphold the laws. Yeah, it's up to the jamaican people to make their own laws and decide their own destiny. Would you say? Why wouldn't that same right to make their laws and decide their destiny as the jamaican people? Why wouldn't it pertain to the irish people as well?
Discussion on Rights and Governance
Do you believe we, as an irish people, have a right? When you. When you say make laws, what do. You mean by me to decide the laws which, like every country, like every normal country, makes laws? Like the referendum? You mean referenda, what percentage of money paying taxation? Yeah, of course. All this stuff. So if the people of Jamaica have that right, do you also believe that the irish people have the right to decide their own laws, decide their own budgets, decide their own border immigration policy? Of course, if it's within reason, if it makes sense, yes. Do you understand, given the history of Ireland, why we are opposed to what we would regard as the. Because Ireland was colonized before.
Opposition to Colonization
We are opposed to colonization. We're colonized by Britain for hundreds of. Years, actually, most of those countries that you're talking about. Yeah, yeah. Irish people were actually sent abroad as slaves, to countries in the Caribbean to work as slaves. And. And also eastern, even eastern parts of America, I believe, but certainly in the Caribbean were sent off in cromwellian times as slaves. So we have. I have to correct you there. You guys were actually never slaves, and you were slave owners in Jamaica. That's how I have my last name, because of my grandfather and great grandfather.
Historical Context and Assertions
So he was a slave owner. They were later slave owners, but during the cromwellian times, Irish were sent over. As slaves as they entered indentured servitudes. Yeah. They may have gone up in the hierarchy of sorts later, but they went over slaves, but it was a consequence, not slaves. You can't tell me the history in Jamaica and then I can't tell you the history in Ireland. How does that make sense? Yeah, but the bottom line is that Ireland was colonized by Britain and the consequences of Ireland were bad. And it shows that every people is better off working, making its own laws for the benefit of its own people.
Irish Sovereignty and Welfare
And that irish people have right to decide our laws, our budgets, control our borders for the benefit of irish people. And we don't owe anybody a free house, free accommodation, free welfare for the rest of the life. And that, like, do not think that you have an. You have a cheek. I like. I don't know your motivation, but do like, then are you? Well, yeah, that's what I'm asking you. What is your motivation to think that one. Do you think that we owe you a living to come here and you're going to tell us how we should live our life?
Claims of Autonomy and Resistance
so if I can answer that, I don't want. I know, respectfully, without sounding disrespectful, I don't. I don't want your fucking money. I don't want your house. I don't want nothing from you. I never did. I came here to make my own way, okay? I don't want nothing. I never want. I want to know that I am a person that can look you in the face and say, I never took shit from you, so you can't say nothing to me. That's the kind of person I am. So I don't know where people get this from. Oh, I've gotten a free house or seven houses with my three wives, and I'm getting free money and free dis.
Identity and Migration Perspectives
And free that I was actually oppressed in Ireland. It's actually disrespectful for people to turn around and do that and act like. Act as if my experience didn't exist. So even for other migrants coming here, I would advise them, buy your own house. Don't let these people talk shit to you because you went and got a council house. Did you get me? Yeah. I want to know that when I buy my house, nobody can talk shit to me. You get me? So that's the kind of mentality I have now for you.
Confrontation and Assertiveness
You probably think I came here to benefit from everything. Put up my middle finger to people who think of me like that. I don't have respect for anybody who waits for free houses. Well, one thing I would say that, who do, like, who do you, how do you think that you have a right to lecture irish people, but you should do this or do that. And you've come to someone else's country. I don't know where you're born here. Doesn't matter. I don't care if you're born here.
National Identity and Perspective on Immigration
I don't care if you're born here. You weren't born here. You're not. You're not an Irish. You're not an irish national, and you shouldn't be coming to Ireland and trying to tell irish people how should. How they should act or think or speak. I wouldn't go to Jamaica, for example, and try to tell people in Jamaica how to live their life. Or what if you didn't get in my way? If you didn't, if you left me on my way to progress my own way in life, I wouldn't have to.
Claim of Oppression and Freedom of Speech
But because you trying to oppress me and silence me and take away my freedom of speech, at the end of. The day, I'm not taking away your freedom of speech. I invited you on to speak here. No, not, you know, personally, but a lot of people do. They try to take away my freedom of speech. Now, now, respectfully, I don't give a fuck if you think this is your country or not. Not. No disrespect to anybody, but I don't care, to be honest.
Reclamation of Personal Rights
I'm a human being first, and I. We. And I live on this planet, and I don't care what country you think you own. I live here, and this is my home, and it will always be my home, and nobody's going to change that. And I can say what I want in any country that I go to because I am a human being. But you probably think in your head, oh, I was born here. This is my land, and I don't think like that. You can go to Jamaica, and if anybody tries and disrespects you have a right to speak up for yourself, and you have a right to protect and defend yourself and your family.
Advocate for Respect and Mutual Aid
And I believe in that. And if I was in Jamaica and I saw that happening to you, I would be one of those citizens who steps in and make sure you stay in Jamaica is comfortable. But over here, it's like people are animals. Why? Could I just ask something, Herman? So, Cannon, you're not claiming asylum in Ireland? Do you think all black people are asylum seekers? I just asked you a question. Are you claiming asylum in our. No, I've never claimed. Actually, I have a story of that.
Misconception about Asylum Seekers
But, no, I'm not. I'm not an asylum seeker. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care about you. I don't care. Well, you've made that very clear that you don't. Yes, that's very clear, Canon, if you don't mind. I've been listening to you telling us for ten minutes now, rambling about how you. I'm not rambling. I'm being asked questions. Yes, you are. Yeah, yeah. Good man. Tell me more about the irish slave owners in Jamaica.
Discussion of Historical Narratives
The irish slave owners in Jamaica were sent over by the English to manage the plantations. And then once the English left, you took over the plantations. I have a book of names. They were Anglo Irish. All these guys were angry. I have a book of names and addresses of you people. After I've listened to you for ten minutes. They were Anglo Irish, not Irish. And there's a big difference there. And the fact that you don't understand that difference.
Acknowledgment of Historical Complexity
I do understand the difference between Anglo Irish. You don't, because you just made it clear when you came in and you said, you Irish, etcetera, came to Jamaica. I know the history of Anglo Irish in Jamaica, and I know what irish people look like. Yes, and I know what they sound like. So please stop trying to tell us our history. I don't care about your bigotry, about what people looking like or don't look like. That's called stereotyping.
Continued Dialogue on Cultural Identity
What people like, just like what your country does to migrants. Historical fact is Anglo irish people. Anglo. Anglo, Anglo. It's Irish. They were Irish. I saw them. There you go, Cannon. You're showing how ignorant you are and why you don't get respect when you come on here making roundabout, ugly accusations. I didn't come up here for your respect. Do you think I. Do?
Credibility and Respect
You think I walk around looking for white people to respect me? When you come up here and take the microphone, you better speak facts, because if you don't, I'll call you up. Especially when you come on. I do speak facts. You are slave owners. About characters of people on here. Learn your history. I do speak factlessly. You are slave owners. Maybe when you understand you're not going.
Disruption of Credibility
To go to prison if you admit that you own slaves. Jesus Christ, is 2024. Wake up. What are you talking about? We're talking about your credibility. What credibility? Who wants credibility from you? You're a fucking some fella in the middle of the woods. Who cares? Nobody cares about your credibility, Cannon. Cannon. That's probably in some village of five people or something, and you want to tell people about credibility?
Discussion on Village References
Would you ever stop? These are two big headed. Cannon. Tell me more. Tell me more. What village of five people am I from? Go on, tell me more. Some white village, white, strange white people are sitting around talking about credibility. Good man. Good man. See, Cannon, this is what I do. I speak in facts. I deal with reality.
Accusations and Responses
You seem. Appear to come up here looking to stir the pot, and that's grand. No, I'm not. I'm just reacting. I'm just reacting to your energy. Whatever energy you give me, I give you my energy. You're reacting to the fact that I called you out on your bullshit irish. Slave owners let me come in again. So, Cannon.
Accusations of Scottish Identity
And actually, by the way, as far as I know, Buchanan is a scottish name, not an irish name. I'm happy to be corrected in that. But as far as I know, Buchanan is a scottish name, not celtic name, Gaelic. Yeah, yeah. Can I just say one thing? Look up. Look up the penal laws, Cannon. And you might understand a little more about Ireland and why the Irish were not your slave masters. Do that, Cannon. Good man.
Concluding Statements and Remarks
That's all I have to say. You were. You were. Put it back to about Jamaica again. So do you think that. So you're ahead. Open borders and you don't believe that any country has borders and there's no such thing as a jamaican people and irish people with a land or a right to land or for them to say, yeah, this is our land, and if you want to come in, it's with our consent. Do you want to know what I really think? Go ahead.
Criticism of the Country
I regret the day that my mother brought me to this hellish, uncivilized, animalistic, dog shit racist of a country. I think black people should all leave this country. I think we should all leave as migrants. That's what I think. I think we should leave this all here to do what she's want. You know what? I think we suddenly have something in common that in regards to second part of your second, the people.
Shared Beliefs on Immigration
Yeah, because we, I believe, or we believe in the right of irish people to decide our own borders and who comes here, who stays here, who's welcome to come over and stay for a holiday, come over and work for five years. But ultimately, this is. Ireland belongs to the irish people, just as Jamaica belongs to the jamaican people. And I believe, and I would defend their right to decide their own laws, their destiny, and who comes and stays in the country.
Conclusion of the Dialogue
But I tell you what, Cannon, we've. Do you want to respond to that? And then we're going to go on. I've asked Michael Leahy to come on about an hour topic. Do you want to, if you want to finish off there, say, give us your conclusion, Cannon. No, I think. I think you should all just don't. Don't let nobody in the country, just you stay by yourself. What do you think about that?
Final Remarks
I think he's going after your job, Herman? Well, I think you'll find. Hold on, hold on. I'm actually being serious. Like, you probably think I'm joking. Like, I really want out of Ireland. I don't think it's safe. Well, see, the second part of what you said there, the last time you spoke about people should go back to their own countries and leave Ireland. I think that's fine.
Perspective on Young Irish Returning
That would suit us very fine, too, because we have millions of irish people abroad, young people with talents who would like to stay in Ireland but just can afford to buy a house. And if. If half a million people from across the world left tomorrow, I would like to see young irish people from abroad come back and I would like to see Arnold return to where we are a strong, confident majority in our own country and we can celebrate our own culture.
Concluding Plans for Discussions
So you know what? You start. We can. You know what? We can actually start that process together. We can help each other. Well, maybe we'll meet up and we'll talk about this. This is Malcolm X and JFK. And Malcolm X and Hitler. No, not Hitler. JFK. I will talk about another day because I've asked Michael Leahy to talk about someone else. Thanks very much for coming on. I appreciate it.
Acknowledgment of Participants
Thank you, Michael. Yes, sir. Yes. I bet that was a bit unexpected. An interesting contribution, I think. Well, you know what? The second part of what he says is a very interesting contribution. And if we're so goddamn awful and the country's so bad and they don't find it attractive, maybe people like that.
Discussion on Clowns and Immigration
Will go home wonderful today. I mean, it's fairly clear. To bring in clowns like that into the country is not exactly going to do a great deal for the average national iq, isn't it? Well, it's Gasly that. Well, do you know what? I hope a lot of people have seen your video of you speaking in Karush there during the week. Yeah, I cannot say. You were dressed very sharp and you were regaining people with your childhood in Kilrush. What if you could tell us what exactly was the. There was a local protest, obviously. Can you tell us about it and. What's the story in Kilrush?
Introduction to Kilrush
Kilrush is a small town. It's a town of somewhat less than 3000 people. I went to school there. I went secondary school there. My dad was garden superintendent who was posted there. So I have very fond memories of it, you know, and we regularly went back to Gil Rush. I've often been a visitor there. I know the people there. It's a typical small rural irish town. And over the last few years, a number of the migrant tycoons have bought up old properties like. Like so many small irish towns. There's a lot of derelict buildings there, a lot of buildings falling into disuse, and a lot of the tycoons have bought up some of these buildings and they're converting them to migrant centers and will make a fortune out of them that will make their money back within the space of a year or two.
Consequences of Migrant Centers
It's a burgeoning industry paid for, of course, by the taxpayer and paid for by the state. And it completely undermines the coherence and the social stability of a small irish town. One of the aspects, one of the attractive aspects of a small irish town is community, is a sense of togetherness, a sense of common purpose and a sense of knowing your neighbors and a sense of a shared culture. And, of course, when what is proposed in the. In the center I was speaking outside of yesterday, is 28 afghan males, unvetted, of course, no longer a war zone, certainly not an area we have any interest in whatsoever. And they're being brought in at taxpayers expense. They will all have a right of family repatriation. So it will. That number can radically transform a town the size of garage.
Impact on Community
This is not the first one. This is the third one. All being carried out by the same businessman and the popular. Over the last two years, the number of people who've been brought into the town or proposed to be brought into the town is approximately 2% of the. Of the native population, far in excess of the birth rate for that town over. Over a similar period of time. So people are very concerned about it. It's immediately beside the school, the primary school. What are these 28 young men going to do there? People are very concerned about this, of course they won't be concerned, they won't be consulted about it, and they are, needless to say, very concerned. So there was a very good turnout at the meeting. I was asked to come out and speak at it. I was delighted to do so.
Addressing Concerns in Kilrush
What we're doing in Ireland, as I said in that address, makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Unless you are seriously talking about the replacement of the irish people. For us to be awarding over 70% of our PPS numbers to foreign nationals for us to be importing, last year, 128,000 people into the country, while we're exporting 70,000 of our own people who cannot get housing, who are not treated properly, we're exporting our own experts. We're exporting highly skilled people, and we're importing all kinds of people who have no connection culturally with this society, have no loyalty to the society, and some of whom have a deep sense of hostility to the society. As we. As we heard from that strange individual who was the last speaker.
Reflections on Government Policies
Ultra contempt for Ireland, complete lack of knowledge of the history of Ireland. A major chip in their shoulders about formerly being slaves, not realizing that the Irish were the first slaves. We were slaves before the blacks were slaves. And for them to be talking just gibberish to us, it's just so ridiculous to have to listen to that nonsense from that chap and, you know, what kind of people is our state engaged in bringing into this country and for what purpose? The nicest thing you could say about our government is that they have no idea what they're doing. But I think it may be far more sinister than that, because the extent of young military age men that are bringing into the country, you really have to wonder when civil unrest breaks out, as it undoubtedly will, if this keeps it discontinues.
Initial Conversation
Is that your real name? Go ahead. Yes, sir. Khalid. Yeah, I think you're pronouncing correctly, sir. Okay, go ahead. Sorry, I'm just a little bit. A little bit overwhelmed and just. That's very good to meet you, sir. Okay. I would just like to ask two questions, and if you're comfortable answering them. And my first question would be, would you be like, would you not mind for, like, say, for example, a coalition with the National Party?
Responses to Coalition Inquiry
No. Oh, okay. Well, I think that'll be. It would be great. So for the National Party and the Irish Freedom. No, no. Like, I understand the way you put the question, do I want one? No. Oh, I don't want one. Oh, like you should. Like, we work along parallel tracks. You do your thing, we do our thing, and whoever succeeds the best or the quickest, fair playdown. That's what I think.
Explaining Coalition Stance
And the basic reason why he's pretty simple. Look, I don't want to get any slack in the national party or say why I don't want to, but Justin Barrett, who is officially regarded by the state as still the official leader of the National Party. And I was told this by James Reynolds, that Justin Bart is regarded by the state as the official leader of the. Of the. Of the national party at the moment. And you know what? I don't want anything to do with Justin park.
Critique of National Party Leadership
We've just seen his stuff about dressing up with silly hats and coats and ss general uniforms down to his ankles, talking about, you know, a militia. It's just ridiculous. I'm like, I'm sorry. Look, look, I don't want to get into any things. I know there's a lot of decent guys in the national party, I have no problems with them personally, but do I want to get involved with. Well, so it's just embarrassed as the visual leader, and I don't want to get involved.
Stance on Politics and Elections
And whatever problems or aggro you have among yourselves about Justin Bard and James Reynolds and who's the leader, well, that's. That's matter for yourselves. And I don't want to get. I don't want to take sides and get involved in it. Yes. But wherever they do, we just work on parallel lines, and whoever does the best and gets more voted in, the quicker the better. And you know what? It is very important that I said before to vote nationalist and to transfer nationalist.
Personal Voting and Election Experience
So I transferred. I vote. I voted myself in that European election. Would you believe I voted for myself, number one. But I voted down the list, and I voted for all the nationalist candidates, except actually Justin Barrett. I would never vote. I don't believe in national socialism. I detest it. And I didn't vote for him. So hope that's clear on that one.
Continuing the Discussion on Leadership
Yes. Yes, sir. Thank you for your answer about that question. And my second question, sir, is about. You don't have to call me sir. Herman's fine. Yes. Herman. Herman. I just want to be respectful to everyone and. Okay. My second question, Herman, is that. What would be, like, your stance on my kind regarding the six counties of Northern Ireland and, like, the whole concept of a united Ireland and uniting our country?
Position on Irish Nationalism
Well, you're probably aware that I am from Derry. I'm from the north myself. I'm a northern nationalist. So, of course, as an Irish nationalist, I believe in the reunification. Not the unification, the reunification of all Irish territory of the six counties and 26 counties, 32 sovereign, independent state independent of London rule and Brussels rule.
Irish Freedom Party's Goals
And that's why the Irish Sweden party also wants to. Our long term goal is give the people of Ireland a referendum on leaving the European Union, that we can become independent of Irish and Brussels rule, and we can only be a united, independent, sovereign Ireland. I. When we're free of London rule in the north and Brussels rule in the south. So hope that's. That's clear, too.
Final Reflections on EU and Policy
Thank you, Herman. Khalid, thank you very much for two questions. I appreciate you coming on. Thank you. Thank you, Herman. It was very nice to talk with you about the questions and. Thank you. Yeah. And also, when you said something about, like, being free from Brussels, one thing that I think that everyone on the space or the majority of the people who are listening right now, I think that they would agree with the whole leaving the EU, because I don't understand how Brussels is telling us how to run our country, even though the main purpose of the European Union was for economical reasons.
Perspective on EU Governance
If I am wrong, please correct me. No, you're right. It started off being, it was sold as that to the people, first as the common Margaret, then as the economic. It was a European economic community and then as the European Union. But basically it started off as predominantly as a, sorry, a common market. But now it is a full blown political union. It is heading towards after the Treaty of Lisbon.
Current State of EU Authority
It has legal personality, wants to act as a state, and with a common fiscal policy, monetary policy, you know, defense, common defense, banking union. It basically wants to centralized power in Brussels. Pretty much one size fits all across the whole European Union. And everybody, like, even, for example, one thing were looking at during the week was how to basically, I call it fiscal patriotism, that in our tax code that we have in Ireland, we must reward and help Irish people, Irish citizens, as much as we can.
Taxation and Resource Allocation
And basically people who come here just for work, just like, who reside here, but aren't Irish citizens, they shouldn't get the tax breaks that Irish citizens get because the Irish state was set up for the benefit of Irish people, not to give free stuff to everybody else. But when you look at the. So every year we are giving roughly 13 million euro, we are sending 13 million euro abroad to children who don't even live in Ireland.
Discussion on EU Regulations
They're abroad in Poland, Estonia, wherever, across Europe. And yet, if we want to say, yeah, but we're not sending money paid by Irish taxpayers abroad to children who don't, who aren't Irish and don't even live in Ireland, that's a stupid idea. Well, the EU, we say, no, no, we have a regulation, and that issue is decided by EU law, which was decided at an EU level. Ireland, to the people of Ireland, you don't have a final say in that.
Concerns Over Democracy
All you have to do is pay up and comply. And I thought, you know what? That's not a democracy. If we can't decide what our laws are, what our budgets are, where our money goes, that's not a national democracy. So ultimately I say, do you know what? We can't afford the EU anymore. We're a net contributor for the last ten years.
Financial Impact of EU Membership
Last time the figures are up. 2021, we're net contributor, 1.1 billion euro a year. They've been floundering our national waters for decades now. For 50 years, actually. And when you look at how much we received from the EU net, which is under 44 billion euro net debt in cash, but they've imposed 64 billion bank debt upon us.
Critique of EU Financial Management
They've plundered our waters for 215 billion s worth of fish. And you know, we're now a net contributor for ten years. Like it's not a good deal. And paying old men to make laws we don't need. No, no, were in a political union before it was called the British Empire. Didn't do us any good. Hope that answers your question, Khaled.
Shift in Political Landscape
Yes. Thank you, Herman. And yeah, and what you said about the whole thing about like not having a democracy in terms of like the EU and like what is the president's name? Ursula von Der Lyon if I'm pronouncing that correctly. Yeah, yeah, that is a good point about she's making like say for example, all European countries, no, sorry, all members of the European Union doing things that they don't even want to do and yet the populace, the population has said, no, we don't want to do this.
Constructive Discussion on EU Policies
And of course, that was a very good point of view, sir, and thank you, Herman, for your time. And it was great to speak on this space. Thank you. Now, thank you very much for contribution. Very well mannered, may I may say so thanks to your parents as well. All right, Kelly, thank you very much. Thank you. Anybody else like to.
Engagement with Audience
Come on, Owen, what do you think of the issues that we're talking about? Anything you'd like to bring up? Well, there just what, Martin, and when you were talking about Sinn Fein being essentially a social or, you know, being straight up communist, I mean, the figures are hard to argue with.
Concerns Over Housing Policies
Like this new plan of theirs between social homes and affordable homes they're going to bring in. That's 125,000 they say they're going to bring about compared to what they've promised is 115,000 private purchase homes. So, I mean, that is a socialist state. When you are building 125,000 to 115,000 for private purchase, you're putting the supply and demand so radically out of whack that you're making your populace dependent.
Analysis of Current Housing Situation
But the bigger problem, which we talked about last week is that, you know, it's so easy to see just so, how ridiculously socialist Sinn Fein are that, you know, you nearly miss just how radical this current coalition is with this. Last week we've, you know, we talked about how there was 60% of all house sales in Dublin last year were block sales and 42% overall with those block sales.
Impact of Block Sales on Housing Market
We don't, I don't believe were able to. We didn't get access to the numbers. But of the 42% of block sale houses, meaning more than one bought at a time, that's broken down between the vulture funds and the government. So the government is buying up an unknown number of the 42% of block sales, which they're then going to redistribute.
Consequences of Government Purchases
And overwhelmingly, we can assume, not overwhelmingly, but certainly a large amount are going to go to people who are coming in, claiming asylum and scamming in other ways. So what you're left with is 58% of private, of households. Only 58% of all houses built last year were available for private sale at a time when 40% of young people are living at home.
Societal Impacts of Housing Policies
Sorry, not just young people, 40% of working young people are living with their parents at a time when 40% of young working people are living at home, we have the governments buying up the houses and selling and redistributing them out from under their feet. So obviously it's yanking up the prices massively.
Destruction of Housing Market
And I heard it on good authority from a politician that last week who. He's down in Limerick and he knows somebody who's working. He's a paper pusher, basically, but within the development branch down in Limerick, county council, and he was saying that the government are paying 20 grand over the asking price of the houses as they come up in Limerick, in estate again, to price the private buyer out of the market.
Concerns About Future Housing Policy
So you're going to get shades of socialism, essentially. You get either just balls to the wall, communism with Fianna Fall, sorry, with Sinn Fein, or you're going to just get it by stealth with the current government. It's a disaster waiting to happen. Actually, as you're on that point, the whole idea, and I see that it's been reaffirmed recently by Horace that.
Discussion on Housing Referendum
But still, they're still knocking this drum about. They're going to have a referendum on. What is it? Oh, yeah, no, it was a Sinn Fein thing there last week. They still bang the drum for this right to, as they call it, right to housing referendum. Well, which is basically, the taxpayer will be put on the hook to supply houses to people, not only to Irish citizens, not even to Irish nationals or to Irish citizens, but to any resident of Ireland, anybody who can get on airplane and actually land in Ireland, that they have a right to housing and that the taxpayer has a duty, corresponding duty, to supply them with one.
Implications of Housing Legislation
Now, that's not Marxism. I don't know what it is. Absolutely. They are at the start of August. Who is it? Justice O'Donnell is it, I think. Anyway, in the High Court, he handed down a ruling that said that the government was in breach of human rights because of the homeless asylum seekers living in tents around Dublin. So can you imagine, if they write this into the constitution, that everybody has a right to a house?
Possible Outcomes of Housing Rights
It's a one way street to bankruptcy. There's. It's. As soon as there's a. Even without a blip in the. In the economy, in the direct foreign investment economy, 12.5% tax break. Even without a blip in that's a road to ruin. Thank you very much. Maybe we'll kind of go towards wrapping up soon.
Final Reflections
So will Queen will come in, will, all's forgiven? I don't know. He requested he speak there and I don't know where he's disappeared. Will, if you want to come in yet. How are you getting on? My mic was off there and just have to switch back on. How are you, lads? It's great.
Discussion on Housing Promises
Fantastic. Great talking you today, but, I listened to, like, people are panicking about building houses and so on and so forth, and Sinn Fein are promising to build houses, and, you know, every government's promising to build houses, but the distract reality and what you're facing down the barrel of the gun of is they basically don't have any water, any power.
Infrastructure Challenges in Construction
So I don't know where all these government guys that are promising to build all these things where a, they're going to get the water from, and where b, they're going to get the power from. Now there is an interconnector coming in from France, can come in fast enough to power all these data centers they want to throw up, but with all the utilities that are there, including sewer, they're not putting it together fast enough to build all these houses.
Lack of Capacity in Utilities
They don't have capacity. So unless in the next five years, they're going to ramp up massively the construction of all these utilities. Because the last thing I heard was that they had two generators weighing 500 ton apiece stuck below on the docks, and they had a bridge that couldn't take it. So even when they tried to plan to get themselves out of a problem, it's.
Government Planning Issues
It's a bit like an Acme dynamite kit that seems to be blowing up in the government's faces in every area, you know what I mean? So, yeah, it's. It confused the living life out of me, lads. And can anybody shed any light on to where. Where they're going to get all the utilities to suddenly, if you're Sinn Fein, starts building all these houses.
Questions on Feasibility
Can. Can anybody tell me where this is. Going to go from before? I think you're 100% right, Will. Yet the sewage thing, there's not enough water and they're not piped out to sufficient places. They're not ready for interconnection. There's not enough power, is it? By the end of this decade, 29% of all electricity generated in Ireland, public generation of electricity will go to data centers.
Concerns over Data Center Energy Usage
So I think we've been absolutely mugs, looking after data centers to look after the rest of world where we can supply our own. But you know what I brought up before? The point that Ireland is broke. We're massively indebted in public debt with 230 billion public debt, I've only discovered recently, someone informed me, 646 billion in public pension liability.
Review of Public Debt
Right. So that's a huge debt. And because of EU state aid rules, and the EU is a growth and stability pact, we, the state, as an EU member, would not have the freedom to decide to have a massive public housing building project, as Sinn Fein are talking about. So. And even Fianna Fall, Fianna Gael, they're talking about, we need 50,000 houses a year.
Housing Challenges Amidst EU Regulations
You don't. You don't have the freedom because of EU membership to build that amount of houses. And another aspect. So you've talked about the water, you've talked about power. I'm talking about the money. They won't have the money. Another aspect, they won't have the builders, because the builders, who are who you would expect, would try to build the houses, they can't afford houses.
Future of Housing Developments
They're not going to stay here. And, like, their kids grew up and rented apartments for the rest of their life, they want to have a house. They can see that. They can go to Australia and buy a house. So they're all shipping off to Australia and Canada, where they can have a family and have a family home. And sure, they're not going to have the workers to build these houses either.
Feedback from Construction Workers
What do you think, Will? I pretty much second that. And they're making promises that they can't deliver on, and I don't see why they're bringing in. This is the other problem it doesn't fathom. They're actually creating a dangerous situation for themselves as a government because they're bringing in all these young will, say. They call him fighting age, but they're working age men now, if there's no money there for them to build, you know what I mean?
The Dilemma of Immigration and Employment
And Roderick has broken all his promises to him. You know, they're not exactly going to be terribly happy with the government or any government agency that wants them to move or anything else. So, yeah, the government, as I say, are creating a massive academy. Dying, Mike. They're making promises that they can keep and I don't know, it's a bunch of inexperienced young fellows above there, I think, that are being fed a bunch of disinformation by God knows who and just crossing their fingers because nothing they are doing at the moment makes a scrap of sense.
Critical Analysis of Current Government
And the promises that they're making, they can't deliver on them. And coming from an industry, I come from the utilities industry. I've literally laid gas main, water main, electricity, sewer and storm for 25 years. And I was out as far as Australia, and I know why all the lads are going out there and why lads that were working the company that I was with previously, I just took a bit of time off.
Challenges in Labor Migration
Like, one guy went over to Australia, he was getting double what he was earning in Ireland, plus €30,000 on top of that. And you're looking at a dude going, no wonder you are leaving. So all of their best guys, all, like that guy, was in his forties. So when you're talking about General Foreman in their forties stepping onto planes and leaving, you are in big barter if you're a government.
Perils of Current Workforce Trends
So unless they're going to change something radically, they've. They've created massive problems for themselves in every area. And somebody should really start advising them, like, pronto, what to do to try and stem the tide of this. Well, one area that Owen raised earlier in the show was the whole thing about this blockbang of apartments in Dublin.
Block Sales in Dublin
60%, he said were bought open blocks. Now, the Irish Freedom Party, we're looking at our tax this. Do you know why they're doing that? But we have just let me finish a point for. Sorry. We aim to tax these vulture phones and these reits out of existence, to make it unprofitable for them to do their business here in Ireland.
Strategic Taxation Policies
That then to free these houses, that basically force them to sell the houses that they have in their possession onto the open market, that hopefully young Ayush couples will be able to, first time buyers will be able to buy a house, because at the minute, the competition is too strong for them. Come back, will.
Vision for Future Housing Policy
Yeah. If you are going into government with legal wranglings and high court and something like that could go on for years, I think a ban on just the block buying of apartments. Now, I'm also in the building industry, where I look, you can look up my Instagram, my YouTube or my. My ex is the same as my Instagram.
Innovative Housing Solutions
I was printing houses and this is a revolution. Now I have in my head basically a design for a. What will I say? An estate that doesn't need as much water and power. We're not going very smart ways about that. So you can actually design smart estates that don't need as much water or as much power and you can add a few bits and pieces onto that and that hasn't been done either.
Technological Advancements in Construction
We're still traditionally building houses. So if you print them, you're talking about eight days to print the frame of a house and then you steal. Frame the inside of it. I reckon I could print out about a house about every 30 days, you know what I mean? But I'm getting beyond the point.
Reflection on Building Processes
But as I said, traditionally, the way we're building houses is wrong for a start. So they're not working on that. So developers aren't doing anything very new, you know what I mean? So it's still putting more pressure on water and sewer resources and they're going to hit a wall soon enough because Irish waters funding pretty much, I think, ran out there a couple of months ago and everybody's running on vapors and they're not putting any more into that probably until about January, you know what I mean?
Critical Housing Infrastructure
So work is drying up too. So construction workers are going to start voting with their feet soon. There's loads of data centers going up in Norway and Sweden and so on and so forth. So they're going to hit another wall again, you know, so their planning is just disastrous as well with semi states running out of money when they're trying to do essential work.
Conclusion on Construction and Planning
So, yeah, you just really be wondering what they're doing. Anyway, I leave it back to you and for someone else to jump in there and I'll. I give myself a breath. Very good. Well, thank you very much. That was very, that was very enlightening. We wouldn't have known.
Wrap Up of Discussion
So, Doctor Owen, if you want to wrap up, it's past half nine, so we would do a quicker one tonight. We'll finish off now. Oh, yeah. No, I think that was. I think that was a really important question our topic will brought up there and just.
Final Thoughts
I think you have it bang on there, Herman, that you have to tackle it on two fronts. One is to kick the vultures out to, you know, making it just unprofitable for them. And the other end is just the most obvious one, which is reduce immigration. There's no housing problem. There's a migration problem anyway. Herman, I think.
Summary of Candidates in Upcoming Elections
Yeah, as you say, we should let him go. I wonder, should we just leave people with maybe a little summary of who you've announced this week that will be running for the Irish Freedom Party in the upcoming general. Well, there's myself. I'm running in county Live.
Candidates for Irish Freedom Party
There's Paul Fitzsimons is running in Dublin Bay north. There's Orla Donahue who's running in Cardell and Kilkenny and who. And Anthony Casey is running in Kildare south. They're the ones who've been announced so far. Very. And I hope the r one's being announced every day this week. Well, I have nothing else to say except thanks to everybody who joined in.
Closing Remarks
All brilliant questions tonight too. And it's lovely. A good lot of people out there. A lot of familiar faces. Great chat. Very good. Stanis Bonnet e Hawaii you're looking. Thanks. Thanks.
