The Floor is… Ref Finance

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Space Summary

The Twitter Space The Floor is… Ref Finance hosted by lavanetxyz. The Ref Finance Twitter Space delved into the world of incentivized blockchain connectivity, emphasizing the importance of seamless interactions. Participants discussed RPC/APIs, incentive pools, and efficient network connections. The dialogue highlighted the role of incentives in fostering user engagement, scalability, and decentralized ecosystem building within the blockchain space. By exploring innovative solutions and incentivized layers, the discussion showcased a commitment to enhancing blockchain connectivity and interoperability.

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Questions

Q: What is the main purpose of Ref Finance?
A: Ref Finance serves as an incentive layer for fast and decentralized blockchain connectivity.

Q: How do RPC/APIs contribute to blockchain interactions?
A: RPC/APIs facilitate seamless communication and data exchange across various blockchains.

Q: Why are incentive pools important in blockchain ecosystems?
A: Incentive pools motivate users to actively participate and engage with the network.

Q: How does efficient blockchain connectivity benefit the ecosystem?
A: Efficient connections enhance interoperability and usability across different blockchain platforms.

Q: What role do incentives play in blockchain scalability?
A: Incentives can drive scalability by incentivizing behaviors that contribute to network growth and sustainability.

Highlights

Time: 00:15:42
Ref Finance Overview Exploring the key features and functionalities of the Ref Finance platform.

Time: 00:25:18
RPC/APIs Demystified Understanding the role of RPC/APIs in enabling blockchain communication.

Time: 00:35:59
Incentive Pool Dynamics Delving into how incentive pools drive user engagement and participation.

Time: 00:45:27
Blockchain Connectivity Solutions Discussing innovative approaches to enhancing blockchain connectivity.

Time: 00:55:14
Decentralized Ecosystem Building Exploring the benefits of decentralized ecosystems for blockchain projects.

Time: 01:05:37
Scalability and Incentives Examining how incentives can impact the scalability of blockchain networks.

Key Takeaways

  • Ref Finance offers decentralized and quick access to various blockchains.
  • Understanding RPC/APIs is crucial for seamless blockchain interactions.
  • Incentive pools play a vital role in encouraging participation and engagement.
  • The importance of creating efficient connections in the blockchain ecosystem.
  • Exploring innovative solutions for blockchain connectivity and interoperability.
  • Building a decentralized ecosystem for blockchain projects and communities.
  • The role of incentives in promoting network usage and growth.
  • The significance of secure and efficient blockchain communication.
  • The impact of incentivized layers on blockchain scalability.
  • Leveraging incentives to drive adoption and participation in the blockchain space.

Behind the Mic

Introduction and Greetings

Hey. Hey. How’s it going, everyone? Good to see you here. I see Escobar is joining. Hey. Hi. How are you doing? Hey, Escobar. Yeah, can hear you loud and clear. How’s it going, man? How’s it? Pretty good. How’s it going on your site? Yeah, not too bad. It’s a sunny day in London today, so. All good. Cool. Good to know. It’s pretty hot here Indonesia. Oh, Indonesia. Okay. Bangkok. Oh, no. Bangkok, Thailand. It’s Jakarta. Jakarta. Yeah, that’s the one.

Discussion on Weather and Locations

What temperatures does it get up to? Like, 40 degrees? It’s 50 ish, but the humid is 70%. Yeah. Okay. Nightmare. Absolutely nightmare. So should we just start, or are. We thinking, maybe, like, 30 more seconds? Perfect. And then we’ll get started ASAP. So the whole Lafa team is actually based in London? Not all of us. No, no, just me, actually. Just me in London. Yeah. We have people all around the world. Right, New York. Well, not at a lot of nation, but we have contributors all around the world. You know, New York, Israel. Okay.

Introduction to Escobar and Ref Finance

But, cool. Well, let’s get started as more people filter in. We’ve also recorded this so people can listen afterwards. But, yeah. Thanks, Escobar, for joining super exciting space today with one of our long time partners and users. So appreciate you coming on, guys. This is Escobar, the BD lead at ref finance. Ref finance is the top DeX on Nier by a long way, at least in terms of its 100 million plus daily volume on this deck. So I’ll hand it over to Escobar just to give a quick introduction first.

Escobar’s Introduction

Yeah, sure. So thank you so much for the intro, and thank you for having me. Actually, Rev itself is Dex that built on top of neoprotocol since early 2021. It’s because back then, we haven’t got any native device infrastructure in here, and then Rev comes out as the first one. Since then, we have been the main DAC also. Yeah. Building together with viral finance as our other entity. But actually, it’s built by the same team. We focus on everything related to money market and also how we can build a better device ecosystem for NIA itself. So that’s kind of the background of the finance.

Ethan’s Introduction and Objectives

Awesome. So, yeah, before we dive in, just a quick introduction for me as well. So I’m Ethan. I’m the community lead at Lava foundation. This is a Twitter space that we do, and we’ll be doing this every week. The floor is x, and this time, the floor is most definitely ref finance. We’ll be exploring some of the partners that we work with at Lava and also the partnerships that are upcoming on Mainnet. Yesterday we announced, or reffinance also announced that we are now the default RPC provider on ref, which is huge news and we’re super excited to get started with you guys.

Discussion on Ref Finance

And yeah, Escobar, you’ve really spoken a bit about the origins of ref back in the day when there were basically no money markets on near. Maybe you can talk a bit about what exactly is ref finance beyond just a Dex? What makes ref different from other dexes? Yeah, so what may craft difference from other dexes might be something a bit complicated to be an introduction. But if I can say, wrap itself as the biggest DAX on here, try to provide the best user experience. That’s the most important stuff that we focus on, like a very smooth one in terms of swapping, adding liquidity, pool every transactions.

User Experience and Collaborations

That’s why we came up with the conclusion that we need the best RPC that can work with us. Then the collaborations happened last night. So other than that we also work together with the ecosystem project. Like the main launch padded where we can automatically whitelist the token that launch with the meme launchpad after they hit the bonding curve they will directly whitelist and tradable. And then we also work together like we mentioned Baru which is the biggest lending protocol in year. Then there is a bridge aggregator that we launched back 20 days ago, sorry, 20 years ago.

Latest Developments in Ref Finance

It’s supposed to be a week ago where it has generated like 36,000 USDC bridge into Nier through that which is that provide the EVM to near direct bridge. Yeah. Awesome. Yeah. So yeah, lots going on and again I think also where the default on borrow as well. Maybe we should have them on next time too. Yeah. You mentioned about making the best user experience on Nier for traders and swappers. Can you dive a bit deeper into that? What exactly do you guys improve? Is it a speed, is it reliability? Is it the number of pools that you guys have? What is it?

Improving User Experience

Yeah. So the number of pools itself is interesting. I think most of the token pair or token launch on Lian is listed on Rev and then to be whitelisted we also have the Rev Dao who are going to fold a token. Either they deserve a white piece or not to be easily traded. And also we of course there’s a trading fee but the trading fee can be customized, depends on the token owner. Then we also have launched our DCL pool. So if you are familiar with DCL kind of like what the Uniswap V three provide. Currently we are developing the digital pool as well.

Future Enhancements and Additional Features

It’s a feature the next level of DCL pool where you can get a better outcome once you swap to make sure that the result was pretty accurate working together with some oracle like Keith and all the others. So I think that’s what we mean by the best user experience. And then we provide like multiple features, like we mentioned bridge aggregator, which is more user convenient. You just need to go to ref and then you can breach in assets, you can do swaps, you can do farming and stuff. Yeah, it makes sense. I think Bridge alligator is great. And also really interesting to hear about the fact that you whitelist tokens and lots of tokens launch on near through ref.

Future Possibilities with Lava

I think that’s really exciting. Obviously lava recently launched on the Dex as well. Very new approach for a chain like ours. And so perhaps one day someone will also create a lava pool on ref. I know there’s talks behind the scenes about making smart contracts on near with lava RPC and maybe once someone wants to make a pool as well on ref. So excited to see if that happens. We’ve spoken a lot about ref and the user experience there and obviously you guys are building on Nier and you guys are essentially the top decks on Nier.

Choosing Nier for Development

What is it about Nier? Why did you choose Nier to build on and not some other ecosystem, you know, all those years back? Interesting. Yeah. So why me is a common question but I believe that no one ever answered this before. So refinance itself initiated by Ilia, which is Ilia the problem? Yeah, then I think that’s the main reason or that’s the main reason why. Why we are on yen.

Understanding the Technology and Motivations

But other than that, of course all the tech that Nian provide is more. Yeah, we are more familiar with that. The dev has been around for some time, some new and then the mission, like we said, we want to be the first. So yeah, gotcha. And. Okay. Yeah, okay well if it came from Ilia then that makes sense. But maybe again I’ll change the question a bit like asking you directly, why are you bullish on Nier? Like what’s the sighting about Nier? Obviously Nier is like a huge pioneer in chain distraction. AI.

Insights on Building on Nier

Personally what I bullish the most currently building on Nier is some chain abstraction. I really love. What’s the narrative about chain abstraction and change signature, especially on the bitcoin narrative. I have been spending the last six months on bitcoin ecosystem and figuring out what’s the blockers? What’s the. When everyone mentioned about liquidity, fragmentation and stuff, I think, okay, then it must be the solutions that Nier provide. And then it’s interesting to see that a lot of bitcoin ecosystem products are excited on what Nier doing, honestly. So we are going to see more and more bitcoin product launch on Nier, to be honest. Interesting.

Exploration of Bitcoin Products on Nier

I did not know about that. Tell me more about that. Like what sort of products will be launched from bitcoin will be launched on Nier? How are they going to work together? How does bitcoin fit into the chain of structure? So one of them is Satoshi Bridge. It’s also taken care of by the red finance team. It’s developed by the rev team utilizing the BTC Lite client built by Aurora. So what we provide is BTC users can directly deposit their BTC on near ecosystem and they will receive M BTC, which is M BTC itself. It’s not a synthetic BTC.

The Mechanism of M BTC

Because if we think about syntactic BTC is a yemenite BTC that has a reserve asset which is BTC itself. But for us and BTC works is the BTC in bitcoin chain will be logged on their personal wallet and then it will be, we are going to mint for them the NBTC, which is the NEP 141 standard BTC. Gotcha. That’s okay. Yeah. So basically the user will have like a local reserve on their wallet, essentially. Yes. Correct. Yeah. That’s interesting. That’s interesting.

Expanding the Bitcoin Layer Two Ecosystem

Are there any. I know there’s a growing BTC layer two ecosystem as well. Are you working those? Are they coming to the air in any way? And also any like. Bitcoin dapps? Yes. Bitcoin dapps. Bitcoin native. Dapps. Bitcoin native. Lst a lot of things coming, I can say. Yeah. Any alpha? Maybe. Maybe. The Nier ecosystem has to be familiar with Atlas protocol, which is. That’s natively built on top of. On top of Nier as well through the chain signature.

Details on Upcoming Projects

But the rest, well, I can’t mention. I can mention it. Okay. Okay. Ask about. I see your man of your word. Keep your secrets. Don’t worry, we’ll find out soon. But the last one you mentioned was Atlas protocol, I think you said. Yeah, Atlas. Atlas protocol is one of the products that been announced during the chain signature announcement. Okay, gotcha. So if you’re listening, then check out Atlas protocol as well. Sounds like that’s on fire too.

The Role of Ref and its Governance

I want to go back to the whitelisting tokens. And you mentioned that ref uses, ref has a governance process as well, a dao. And also what I didn’t realize until very recently was that ref has his own token. Maybe you can talk about that. What is the utility of the token and how does that work? Yeah, so let’s go to the Revdal first. So how the Revdal contribute is Rev Dao has seven members and if there is a token need to be whitelisted, a token, the project owner or the token owner need to submit a governance proposal in a ref governance.

Whitelisting Process in the Dao

Then our team will make the proposal to the DAO. Then they will vote like they need four yes to go through and then get whitelisted directly because that’s how the smart contract works. Then for the ref token itself, there’s some benefits attached to the meme season. If you’re familiar with the meme season, happening on Rev. One of them is if you’re staking a ref token, you will receive the x rev. And then if you want to vote for which meme can be participating on the main season, you need to stake the x ray as well to fold.

Incentives and Future Developments

Then there is also apy of course, incentive. If you stake your rev tool, you receive, it’s around 10% APY at the moment. So in the future we are still developing, we are currently developing more use case for the rev token, which is, it takes some time, but it will be very interesting gameplay for the ecosystem. Gotcha. Well, I want to follow one thing you said there, which was I think you said mame or main mame.

Understanding the Meme Season

Yeah, meme season. Oh, the meme. Okay, got it. Yeah, yeah. Tell me more about that. Like my bad. Yeah, so we actually allocated rev token and also some near, it’s around like fifty k per month. Depends on the token price of course. But it’s around approximately 50k incentive for the memes. So it depends which meme been voted to participate on that round.

Selection and Incentivization Process

Usually there’s a five meme token will be selected and then they will receive base, receive the portion of incentive based on the community. Then next season it will be totally different game for the meme season. Interesting. So is this, so this is related, you stake the lava, sorry, not the lava token, the ref token. And you earn some of these meme tokens in return as part of the API.

Clarifying Token Utility

No, no. You stake the meme token and then you earn the ref. Okay, yes, I see. And of course you’re building more utility into the ref token as well. In the future? Yes. Can anyone currently vote in the Dao? No. Can I join? Okay. No, no, that’s. That’s one thing that we are considering if, let’s say there’s a raft out at the moment.

Future Considerations for Governance

Right. And then how we can make it, like whoever, the holders and stuff. But of course, it takes a lot of things to be done to make that process. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Understood. Okay. Yeah. One thing that we touched on today is around chain abstraction and Nian and BTC.

Role of Ref in Chain Abstraction

How does ref fall into that category? Obviously you mentioned b, two, c coming to near, but does ref use chain abstraction in any way? How do you think about that? Oh, I am personally very heavy on BTC.

Engagement with the BTC Ecosystem

So I really interested on how we can attach to the BTC ecosystem. First move that rev takes. So far we have been engaging with a lot of multiple token or native Dapps on BTC to bridge over the token to new and then build the chain signature narrative together, which is it can be done through Satoshi Bridge, like I mentioned before. And the next thing is through the Satoshi bridge. We are going to build a protocol, not just a bridge. So it will be an infra where it can be implemented to any DAx or any landing protocol or any platform in the ecosystem. So that will be used by Rev as well in the future. We can see it can be a direct breach.

Future Integrations and Opportunities

Sorry. Direct swap in a cross chain assets if we integrated the protocol on Rev. So I think in few months there will be multiple token will come to revival. From the BTC. From BTC. Interesting. Yeah, it does sound like that’s a big focus of yours right now. Yeah, yeah, exactly. BTC is the biggest focus because in the end, we are talking about the mass adoption and. Yeah. Which, when we talk about cryptocurrency, what you have in mind as the first token is BTC. Right. Well, someone said ethereum, but. Yeah, BTC. Yeah, of course.

Understanding the Narrative

Yeah. So I think that’s kind of the background for myself. Yeah. Makes sense. No, I’ve not really explored the BTC ecosystem so far. But now that you guys are making it easier, maybe I will check out one thing that you mentioned was the chain signature narrative. Can you talk more about that? Yeah. So chain signature narrative is attached to the chain abstraction. Right. Like in the end, that’s what. That’s the end for us. What we want to provide. Like, everything can be a question, but using just one single wallet on your side. But if you want to deep dive into the tech side, I’m not the best guy. I’m not the best.

Chain Extraction and User Experience

Well, how about this? One question that always comes to mind is with chain extraction, you sort of remove the need for end users, non-technical users, non-developers, to know what chain they’re using. Right. It’s sort of invisible. Chains are invisible and. Yes, exactly. That sounds amazing, because obviously right now the UX is really bad. But the one criticism that I’ve seen, which I kind of can resonate with, is the fact that crypto in the first place is about being able to choose which chains and which tokens that you want to support. And obviously, early adopters and participants can be with a project for the long term with the token. So how do you sort of balance those two things?

Community Dynamics in the Crypto Space

On one hand you have chains are invisible and it’s chain of traction, narrative. And on the other side you have this original tension, which is that chains should have a core community. But how can you have a core community if it’s invisible? How do you think about that? Yeah, so let’s. Let’s think about EVM chain maybe. I didn’t think that EVM chain community limit themselves on just dedicated chain scroll, linear, arbitrary, whatever, who try to farm airdrops. I don’t think they care about what’s the chain happening at the moment. And then they will just bridge in and bridge out, go to other chain and stuff.

Security Concerns and Community Focus

Because the ecosystem is well connected and the core of the community came from Ethereum. Where is the BTC community at the moment? I think the main concern from the BTC ecosystem or the community is just about security. And then if we can take care of the security side, then they actually didn’t care about what chain they are in. They will just earn you. It’s the focus. Yeah, makes sense. And so do you see all of these chain should have their own token or do you disagree with that? Yeah, they may have their own token. We didn’t see any issue on that.

Fragmentation of Liquidity and Community Building

They’ll have their own token, they’ll have their own focus on the narrative. And then the end. In the end, once there is a chain that have echoed all the liquidity fragmentation issues, then they will just focus on building other things. Right. Which is a better economy, I think, instead of focusing on the intra side. Yeah, makes sense. And do you think chain extraction solves that problem of like fragmented liquidity across all these chains? Yeah, I can say, yeah.

Current Trends in the Crypto Ecosystem

Based on. Based on. Yeah, based on my experience. Now if you see the bitcoin layer two narrative, most of them are EVM compatible chain. And why it’s easy for them. To. Play around the EVM. I mean, the bitcoin agent is just because everyone is just utilizing metamask, but still you need to change the wallet from one to another network. It’s easy. I didn’t say it’s hard, but it’s not the best experience I can say.

Towards a Better Experience

Yes, we want to go to more like mass adoption, more users, or we want to limit the whole crypto ecosystem, limited on current situations. I didn’t think so. Right. So how to make it better is just pick the best asset that focus on that everyone know, which is bitcoin, and then take over. I mean, it’s hard to say, but take over the wallet option and then be the only wallet to provide and support any chain. I think that makes sense.

Future Projects and Directions

Gotcha. And there’s also. I think there’s another project on Nia working on that. Right. There’s dappdapp as well. Oh, yeah. Dap. DAP is a decentralized front end. Yeah, yeah. I think. I think dub is one of the things that we can think about that you just need to go to dub and then you can do anything across EVM. Yeah, that was typical. Shout out to them. Hopefully we’ll have them on the space at some point in the future.

Final Thoughts on the Crypto Market

Cool. Well, we’re near the end, but I had a few more questions about crypto at large. I think I already know the answer to this, but my question is, are you bullish or bearish on crypto right now? Like, a lot of people on the timeline are less optimistic about crypto. I saw one of the Ethereum foundation researchers yesterday tweeting, saying something like, what are we doing all this for? What direction is crypto going in? That it’s all about meme coins and shit. Coins and gambling and speculation. And have we lost sight of the initial vision? So, you know, it sounds to me like you’re bullish, but just wanted to ask that as well, to see if you had any thoughts.

The Future Outlook

Yeah, in short terms, I didn’t say that. Okay. We are going to palm the market. The market is going to be bull market or whatever it is, but the industry is here and the industry means to be staying and try to tackle the issue that most of the. Yeah, most of part of the world facing. Right. So I think it will be bullish in the long term. Like I mentioned, if everyone is understanding what the decentralizations, visions and what everyone trying to do, I think it just takes some time.

AI and the Future of Crypto

But I’m very bullish on the industry in the whole. Yeah, yeah. And also, especially on near, there’s also this. This narrative around AI. Right? Yeah, it’s. AI is a very exciting thing. I personally didn’t know much about how AI blocking works.

Discussion on AI and Its Impact

I haven’t deep dive into that. But thinking about AI has been scamming a lot of people. AI has been taking over the world, right? So I think it’s a great thing to do. Yeah. I think it’s a super exciting industry, and obviously Nia is one of the leaders there. You know, how I think about it is that currently the UX and in cryptos is awful, and chain extraction is definitely one of the pieces of that aims to solve that while he’s reduced the pain points. And how I think about AI is that this will be a way to completely abstract away a lot of the terrible UX and UI issues, because all you need to do is say to AI, listen, I want to buy this token and the AI will do it for you, the agent will do it for you. Right.

Wallet Innovations and Protocols

You don’t need to change your network on your wallet. You don’t need to do, you don’t need to have gas fees, whatever. So it’s a combination of AI chain extraction, things like intents. Talking about the wallet stuff, have you heard about Bpay protocol? What’s that? How do you spell it? Bte? B I t T e. No, I don’t know. What is that? Okay, so it’s previously min based wallethood run by the main base team, the NRQ marketplace. It’s based on ya. They have launch features on their wallet, which is very brand. To beat it, they launch a features where you can just write down how much money you want to swap and what currency you want to swap, then it will be the AI working for you and then. Yeah, the AI.

Exploring Financial Collaborations

Sorry, the swap SDK and stuff is provided by rare finance. It’s. Yeah, collaborations between us. I see. Okay. Yeah, that’s exactly what I’m thinking about. Yes. And yeah, you know when you look at Metamask and you think, how is this still the number one wallet in the industry? Especially when you hear things like this around bite a wallet. So, yeah. Shout out to them and extremely bullish on that area. One question I had was, obviously you guys are in the defi space and you’ve already spoken about BTC. Are there any other areas in crypto now that you see that you’re excited about for the future and innovation there?

Future of Staking and Restaking

Yeah, maybe this is more into my personal opinion, I think is kind of like game changer. As well in the ecosystem, like liquid staking, restaking, whatever it is. I think. I think it’s a good thing in a business perspective, and a lot of people try to do that. But so far. So far, I think if in the BTC ecosystem, there’s a bubble on the. They are kind of like the game changer in the whole BTC ecosystem as well. Yes. So I think that’s one thing. Yeah, I love asking that question because oftentimes you get an insight into what the actual product roadmap is for the project. So I’m going to be guessing that reffinance is working on things in the restaking LST space, perhaps in the future.

Upcoming Products and Brand Development

Well, I hope that’s true. But are there any things that you want to flag in the future coming to ref that you want the audience to know? Yeah, currently what we are focusing on is we build multiple products, to be honest. We have one of our sister company called Delta Trade. It’s a decentralized trading platform. You can create a grid, a DCA bot, whatever, swing board. You can just keep accumulating your assets earn high Apy because of the token volatility. Then there is for Rev itself. We are going to not rebrand as in changing the name or stuff, but UI rebranding. So there will be whole user experience, a new user experience where people, when I, when people come to Rev, they need to think about.

Enhancements in User Experience

This is the Dex on nin. It’s not just another Dex. Right. So what they want to do transactions not because of the token price only, but how do you accelerate and then how on the branding side people can talk about it outside the ecosystem, like what Dex is the best that you think about from the user experience side and then. And they will save Rev. Yeah. So that’s what the major things we are working on. And then the Satoshi protocol is also the main focus. Yeah, huge. I’m looking forward to seeing the rebrand. I think there’s a lot of room for improvement for, like I said, us and Ui, especially with trading. So excited for that.

Engagement and Ambassador Program

The final thing I want to ask is I was looking at ref recently and there’s an ambassador program that people can get involved in. Maybe you can speak a bit about that you recently announced. And also what are other ways in which people can get involved in with ref? Yeah, I think the things that we try to solve in the Amazon program side, like you mentioned, every chain, one core community. So does a product always won a core community? My background is from the coffee industry, and coffee itself is all about community. Coffee drinkers. Coffee, coffee industry. Yeah. I used to be a researcher for a coffee company.

Building Community through Ambassadors

That’s awesome. Yeah. Focus on the product and stuff, you know? So, yeah, I think back to the topic. So it’s just like how the community is supposed to be built is. It’s not about Maxi, it’s not about not accepting any feedback from the outside of the, of your users and stuff, but it’s more into how the user need to understand what’s the vision of the product, what’s the mission of the product then? Ambassador play a huge role there. Right. Like you didn’t know about the clear shampoo if you didn’t have Cristiano Ronaldo promoting it. It’s basically the brand ambassadors of the brand itself.

Involvement and Expectations

So I think to present the brand to better and to the wider ecosystem to have a better experience on your product. Ambassador is a player, which is. That will be part of our course. Communicate some. Yeah, for sure. For sure. And people can apply to that right now, right? Yeah. We have 200, 270 community members who has registered to be part of the ambassadors. Then we are going to announce in one week whoever we think qualify either we are going to go to the interview phase and then we will consider and tell them what’s the rewards, what’s the incentive they’re gonna receive, what the worker wants to pass them if they are handy by the DAo as well, if they are qualified, then of course they can be part of the reaction.

Summarizing the Conversation

Yeah. That’s awesome. So if you’re listening, definitely go apply to that. Very exciting. I think ref is one of the top teams in the industry, to be honest, we’ve been working closely with them and. Sounds like you got a lot on roadmap, too. Guys, we’re out of time now. Esquire, was there anything that we didn’t cover that you want to mention before we wrap up? Yeah, there is nothing we haven’t covered. I think pretty much we have covered everything. But happy to see everyone here. Happy to see that we have a lot of support for Lafa and Rev. I mean, I love Lafa personally.

Closing Remarks

I love how the RPC works. I love how fast it is. Then it’s pretty important to have all your support from the company, support for us, for every movement that we take. So, yeah, I guess that’s pretty much from me. Yeah. Perfect. Well, good to chat. One thing I want to say is that it’s often said that apps and DeFi projects and blockchains cannot function without RPC. But just as, like, just the same, RPC needs apps and users to actually be relevant. Lava wouldn’t exist without all the amazing partners that we have, like ref finance or.

Collaborative Future and Gratitude

Or near protocol, for that matter, as well. So we’re really excited to work with you and keep working with you guys. And Lava is now the default RPC on ref, so that’s huge. And hopefully, when you’re trading now your meme coins, you can have ultra fast service. So thank you, Escobar, for turning up. Thanks, everyone, for joining, and we’ll see you next time. Thank you, Ethan. Thank you, everyone. Take care.

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