STATE OF THE NATION II CONVERSATION WITH DR. MIGUNA MIGUNA

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The Twitter Space STATE OF THE NATION II CONVERSATION WITH DR. MIGUNA MIGUNA hosted by MudgeRulf. The Twitter space delved into essential discussions about diaspora opportunities, welfare, and scholarships, emphasizing the need to empower communities through education and work. Dr. Miguna Miguna shed light on the significance of networking platforms like the diaspora network hub in facilitating information sharing and support among diaspora individuals. The conversation underscored the crucial role of accessible scholarships and welfare services in promoting growth and well-being within diaspora communities.

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Questions

Q: Why are diaspora opportunities crucial for communities?
A: Access to study, work, and scholarships empowers diaspora members for personal and community growth.

Q: How does scholarship accessibility impact diaspora individuals?
A: Accessible scholarships provide avenues for education and skill development within diaspora groups.

Q: What role do welfare services play in supporting diaspora communities?
A: Welfare services offer essential support mechanisms for diaspora individuals in various aspects of their lives.

Q: Why is networking vital for diaspora populations?
A: Networking fosters collaboration, knowledge-sharing, and community building among diaspora members.

Q: How can platforms like the diaspora network hub benefit diaspora communities?
A: Such platforms serve as valuable resources for information, opportunities, and connections for diaspora individuals.

Highlights

Time: 00:27:15
Importance of Diaspora Opportunities Exploring the critical impact of providing opportunities for diaspora communities.

Time: 00:39:42
Empowering through Scholarships Discussing the transformative power of accessible scholarships for diaspora members.

Time: 00:51:03
Community Welfare Services Highlighting the essential role of welfare services in supporting diaspora individuals.

Time: 01:02:17
Networking within Diaspora Understanding the benefits of networking and information exchange among diaspora populations.

Key Takeaways

• The importance of providing opportunities for diaspora communities.
• Scholarship accessibility as a critical factor for diaspora members.
• The significance of welfare services in supporting diaspora individuals.
• Promoting education and work opportunities among diaspora populations.
• Creating a platform for networking and information exchange within diaspora communities.

Behind the Mic

Introduction and Welcome

It a wonderful. Good evening. Welcome to the space. Let's give people five minutes to join and then we can proceed. Doctor, I see you. Welcome on board. Tony Gashuka. I see you. Lingugi, I see you. Welcome, everyone. Just five minutes and then we can proceed days later and do anything for power. Ready to lose their head for presidency. Happy, raise hands. So, guys, welcome to the space. It's three minutes past, but I know we still have two minutes to wait. But as we wait, we can welcome the guests and the co hosts and then we will have. We'll begin. Meanwhile, please share the space so that at least when people come later, they don't ask questions that you already addressed before and then it becomes a little redundant. Yeah.

Rules and Communication

So I would just like to explain a few things about the space. Of course, we're going to really have some, you know, let me call it a good space where we don't want to really just have a market space here. So we're going to have good communication going on. Respectful communication. We want to really just on that for the sake of a better communication. That having been said, I would like to say that we are using the languages of the space is Swahili and English. So without further ado, because it's a weekend and some of us are very tired. Well, let me give the chance to the co host to say hello. And then we pretty much begin to book ten and then, Afro, over to you, in that order. Not sure book ten can hear me. Afro, over to you. Hello. Yes, I can.

Discussion on National Issues

Yeah. Good morning. Good morning, Kenyans, comrades, patriots, it's great to meet with you again to have a discussion on what is. What is the. Maja, you cannot hear Afro? Hello? Okay, I can. I can hear him. Okay, yes, I can hear you, but I can't hear him. I think I'll have to drop and come back. Please do. Okay, no, Afro, you're audible to all of us. I think it's doctor who is having a problem. Okay, let me try to sort that with him out. Afro, kindly continue. Okay. As we having these technical issues being sorted out, please do us a favor and share this space on your wall, on your timeline. We want to have as many Kenyans joining into this discussion as we come to terms on what's going on in our nation and how we can come up with solutions on moving forward.

Challenges Facing Kenya

It's great to be here. Thank you, host, for having us. And my fellow co hosts and all the speakers, distinguished guests who are going to pick up the microphone. Please do not remain silent. The one thing that this corrupt regime wants is wants us to go back into our homes, go back into cocoons and stay silent and remain quiet as they continue to pillage the country. But we have said we are not going to do that. We will keep the conversation going and we are going to seek active solutions to this active developing situation in the country. The revolution is still alive and it's alive with you and me. Thank you so much. Maje, the microphone back to you. Thanks so much. Afro, book ten over to you. Okay, let me text you probably. I think he's having some connection issues. Let me just text him because I cannot hear you.

Current Economic Situation

That's the reason why I. Doctor, can you now? Could you hear Afro? Because otherwise just yet. I did. Oh, I did towards the end. Great, great. That's great. So we had planned, we have some like just an official agenda, just for the sake of moderation. But before that, just feel free to just warm the space in the next five to ten minutes. And then we are going to begin. I just try be giving book ten the mic again. If he's not able to speak, then we can go to Abdullah Drizzi and then Manoa. And that's three minutes each. Okay, thank you. Thank you very much. Hello? Yes, we can kindly proceed. Yeah, thank you very much. I would like to thank the host and everyone else.

Statistical Insights

I am in Nairobi currently and I just came back from Mandela ten days ago. If you look at what's happening in the country, before even we go to the politics, the economy part today, there were there was information that came out that 99.7% of Kenyans have less than 500,000 in their bank accounts. There are close to 18,000 students who have not gone to university. If you look at northern Kenya, where I come from, like Mandela County, Mandela town, out of 187,000 persons, 78% of that population cannot have two meals. The problem with our country, as I always said, it started in 1963 when Kenyatta came to power. He started dealership. Instead of building a nation with a dream, we had dealership in Kenyatta government, we had dealership in Moe government, we have dealership in Kenyatta. This one is even, and I said even before, this one is going to be the most dangerous president we'll ever have.

Reflections on Governance

His greed is not even. The country cannot even sustain his greed. You know, sometimes, even though there is no honor in thievery, at least as the, you know, the pastor said when the president was there, that even if you still, at least, you know, you're still in public resources, you take it back. So we have to talk as a country and say, first of all, Kenyans are more than 56 million, these cliques are less than 400. So we have to make a choice that we either want to have a better country for our children or we want to be Jalous Kikuyus warriors. And then when the economy bites, you go to a supermarket. I'm not sure today there is a supermarket for the Kalenjin in El Dorad or for the Kikuyus in Moranga.

Consequences of Poor Leadership

We are all affected by the problem. So let use our ethnic, you know, composition of a country to build a nation where everyone is proud, where there is meritocracy, where, you know, those who go to parliament don't become just like what Philip, the late Philip Ocheng used to call or called the president ship. I mean, how does a member of parliament from Northern Kenya vote against Gashagua? I mean, that itself is a problem because they were whipped to vote. If the member of parliament could come and, you know, substantiate most of these things, then we will have said, these people have brains, but I don't think we have members of parliament representing. You have already seen circulating on social media that they want to extend the presidential parliament term from five years to seven years.

Need for Unity and Change

What is more, you know, Platonia than that? I mean, it's not even enough. Five years is not even enough. So I would like to tell Kenyans, we have our young boys and girls who are now in primary school, in secondary school. If this is the future we want to build for them, then Ruto will win. But if we mobilize ourselves, you have seen this weekend, Central Kenyan MP's have been chased from pubs where they were drinking. It's very difficult for members of parliament to do siren in the streets. I'm told most of them are, you know, taking ubers and, you know, and that's why, because June, July, the people's power, we, the people have expressed ourselves, we have told them, we employed you, went to parliament.

Consequences of Government Actions

Unfortunately, the rogue state killed many young Kenyans and they are continuing to abducting. Many Kenyans are young. MCA, a father of children from Ojia county, has been abducted for almost a month. He has not been taken to court. So we have a responsibility to say a few of us have to be sacrificed because I was called myself, I appear on shoes, I write on the local dailies. I was a poll, you know, people tell me this government is going to kill you. And I told them, I do not know how to die because I never died. And as a Muslim, I believe that in the Quran, God tells us that every soul shall one day test. So we do not know how we are going to die.

Defiance Against Oppression

So Ruto and his regime cannot threaten us with death. We are more than them. We are more Kenyans, we are more determined. And I will also want to say thank you very much for your work, Doctor Miguna. Miguna. We might not know each other, but we know what you are doing. Please let us fight for the future. It's no longer about us. Thank you very much. Thanks so much. Afro. Feel free to chime in at any point. Book ten is on the road. He'll also chime in a little bit later, but let's continue. Let's cue in about five speakers before we get onto the. Like. We had some invited guests, and after that we're going to open a q and a session and a very, you know, we want to have an interactive session.

Initial Remarks by Speakers

So I'm going to give a lady the mic, Shayla. And then we go to Wanda. Three minutes each, please. Hello. Hi. Hi, moj. Thank you so much. My name is Shaila Nyangara Nyanchara. I'm a passionate Kenyan and I'm also an entrepreneur. So I. And I thank God that Kenyans, we are now work. We are no longer victims of political pr. And, you know, one thing that I usually. I have come to learn progressively is we are already civically educated as a people. We know what our rights are. We know what we need to do when the systems are failing, what we are now learning.

Civic Education and Political Awareness

I think we're in the next step. I stand to be corrected. We're in the step of learning political and discerning political behavior, political ideologies, and that is where we are at and the moment. And Kenyans, let us not lose hope. This is a journey that we are going on and we will break through. I think we have broken through some very ceilings that we did not even think of. So let us continue like this. First of all, I usually like to begin with encouragement, because I usually do. I decided to do public participation because after we did the finance bill and we all work as Kenyans, and we realized, you know, what policy making is at the core of our determining what the quality of our lives will be.

Impact of Legislation

This is what determines what kind of food you can eat as an individual, as a family, whoever you are. This is what determines the kind of healthcare service, the quality of healthcare service, you get policy. And the center of politics is what determines what kind of education you will get, you and your descendants. If you decide to have a family, your relatives, it will determine where you study, where you travel, it will determine your exposure. And exposure is what ultimately builds an economy. And if the economy is good, even you as a person, you will be good. So I think not. I think I decided to do my public participation and I usually hold Tuesday spaces and we want, and it's called the Tuesday update.

Ongoing Social Issues

And during that conversation, the Tuesday update, where we just decide to come as Kenyans and bring in, bring our ideas together, our heads together, what are the challenges and what are the solutions that we can face? Because every single day you find there's a challenge. I know people say we complain a lot, but the complaining comes from the realization of something, a new challenge every single day. So in the course of this, I met Doctor Kurokot during the species, one of the solutions of the things that he was doing, and that was the Punguza Mizigo bill. I don't want to dive into it, but why I'm bringing this up is because as I was enlightening people about how we can reduce the cost of governance in our country, a lady was asking me, how then do we do it?

Constitutional Strengths and Challenges

And I'm like, we have the strength of the constitution. And they're like, but people are disregarding the law left, right and center, beginning from Ruto himself down even to a simple chief. Nobody is, everyone is just disregarding the law. No one is following anything. And the moment our law is bended and broken, that means the foundation of our democracy is already shaken. And we will fight and keep fighting and we cannot go anywhere. And I was like, and I told her, no. These are people who have invested their resources to gain political power and they will note and they will not give it up easily. They are doing, they have invested in this and they have gotten our trust and we have given them these positions of representation, but then they decide to misuse them and they will not get out there.

Vigilance and Engagement

So what do we need to do? We need to keep pushing. If you try one thing, I was one of the people who are advocating for the road maintenance levy fund and when people went for public participation and then minister of transport, Mister Murkomen, Alissa Matihe, we will find a way to cushion Kenyans before we increase. But then the president the following week, Ruto Akasemo to Japanisha. And you now wonder, because ultimately the cost of this sheila would you try to wind up, please. We are trying to get three minutes each. And, Abdulai, I'm also trying to. I will try to drop those who have spoken so that the others can get a chance. So if I drop you after you've spoken, there's no offense. They're just trying to create some space for others.

Urgency in Solutions

Back to you, Shaila, as you wind up. And then. Yeah, thank you so much. So. And where was I directed you? You were at this point where there's something you talked about, Ekuru, Ekwote. And you were thinking about the next steps. Okay. Yeah, yeah. So, anyway, let me just sum it up. We will never relent, and we are not. We are looking at a political class that has formed their ideologies to their solution. The ultimate solution is coming together, forming coalitions to protect themselves. And one thing we need not to lose is our determination. Every time we come together and fight for a purpose of something, we are already making a step towards.

Leadership and Scrutiny

So, me, I'm very happy that even Ericomwondi picked up the, you know, nimisao ioni niyako reduced the cost of governance. And that is another thing we need to focus on, is the quality of leadership that we send. The people we choose to represent us are very important. Let us focus on scrutinizing them very intensively. And then, number two, always be up to let somebody know something is happening to you. And when you hear something is happening to somebody, even if you're one person and you say it, eventually that track will come. So I want to tell us, let us reject poor governance. Let us reject mismanagement of public resources.

Combating Corruption

Let us reject stealing of our hard earned tax money. Let us reject unjust policies. Let us reject violation of human and constitutional rights, and let's keep at it. Let us reject any form of oppression, on our health, on our education, on our transport, on our food security, on our peace as Kenyans, our mental health is very important. Anytime a leader comes to you and they want to compromise your integrity, make sure you make it known. We need to lose the fear. I know most of us could be scared. Maybe Nita Kufa, maybe Nitafanya Nini, but at some point, we have to cross a certain bridge and let us do it together.

Legislative Initiatives

So, to close, there is this bill called Punguza Mizigo Billia Ekuru Court I think if we come together and we amend it, we tweak a bit what needs to be adjusted for what we are experiencing now and what we think can be tackled in the future. I think that would be a good thing. People who need a copy of that bill, I have it. And on Tuesday, from Sikh to about eight, we also tackle it. I do not have the intellect to dissect the constitution, but we just give our opinions on it. And sometimes a quiro court comes to the space. And I would like to invite also Doctor Miguna, because of your insight and knowledge of the constitution as a legal person, I also welcome every other Kenyan. We need each other.

Collective Responsibility

So thank you so much for this space. Thank you so much. Shayla. Let's go to Wanda and then Afro. And Afro will then Asha and I salute doctor and every person on board from where I sit. I feel like we keep getting all this wrong because I'm not in either way looking at the Punguza Mizigo or any kind of initiative that is being brought on board as a problem or not. Okay, but I feel like we keep getting this wrong. When you look at Kenya, can somebody here wander? Well, I think he's not. After the general elections, were having things like, you can hear me the past second.

Election Challenges

Not. But now, yes. Now, yes. Okay, thank you. As I was saying, I feel like we keep getting this all wrong. That in as much as politics is a major problem that is affecting us, but it always starts and ends with the presidential elections, that we keep giving presidential elections a lot of time, powers, resources and everything. To the extent that we end up with the. With the office that is not addressing the challenges and problems of our people, but instead we end up getting a person, we end up getting an office that in one way or the other is in a position to put into the.

Power Dynamics

Into their pocket. The legislature at some point will end up with the judiciary not working well. And all this, it's all in the presidential election, that we end up forgetting that as a country, we have other regions that might not be populated, but probably they have a say, or probably they have an input into the problems that we are having from the tyranny of numbers. Kupanda Mblema. Today we are now talking of Kuguza Mulima. It tells you that even if we end up with one or two, three programs brought on board to Pungusa Demzigo that we are having, if we don't address the presidential elections and how we conduct our elections, we'll still end up with some individuals into these positions that will not address the challenges that we are having.

Addressing Inequity in Leadership

If I'm told no one of these people is looking at the CDF and imagine that when Kibaki came into power. He only brought in CDF to address the inequalities that were brought in by the differences between those in opposition and those in government. Then it tells you that we are still not addressing the challenges that we are facing. The other thing that I would like to talk of that I feel like it's probably not going the right direction, is how we are managing the Gen Zs and the millennials. We are too quick to find any Gen Zs or the millennials that are perceived to be speaking the language of the people.

Empowering the Future Generations

Instead of looking at these individuals, guide them, nurture them, before finding a clear structure. We end up empowering these Gen Zs and the millennials too early, too soon, such that those in power, those in the presidential election power kind of mindset, easily points out those few, one, two, three individuals that we are finding. Put them in the pocket. Then we go back to the square. Zero. Instead of finding these young, promising Gen Zs and the millennials that probably are perceived or seen as persons with the potentials to offer alternative leadership in the future, start coming up with the clear structures, put them in proper structures before, I mean, before putting money into their hands.

Critical Solutions for Change

So allow me to yield on this point that the main problem that we are facing as a country is how we conduct presidential elections. If we don't address how we conduct presidential elections, we'll end up with the saints in the same positions that will turn into vampires, then eaters. Allow me to yield on that. Thank you so much, Molly Mwanda, for your very good submissions there. Of course, you gave us some food for the thought and that's a very welcome, you know, submission. Over to you, Afro, as you then. Welcome, Doctor Hari. Thank you. Thank you so much, guys. I hope we are sharing the tea.

Call for Action Against Corruption

The space on your timeline, revolution be passed on like candles. We have to, you have to inject in your social circle of influence, whether it's your family, whether it's your work colleagues, even as a simple tweet on your space, you're keeping these revolutionary ideas going. Right now we're at a stage where all we're bridging the gap between generations, between Gen Z's, millennials, Gen X's, boomers. This is where I. There are people who have fought in this struggle for the longest, and we are now standing on their shoulders and we are joining hands and we are cuffing links and we're saying that we have to dispose this corrupt regime.

The Role of Experienced Leadership

So, without further much ado, allow me to welcome Doctor on the space to give us his thoughts on the revolution Karibu. Doctor, the microphone is yours. Good evening, everyone. Thank you very much, Marge and frozentric, for the illuminating introduction. I've been listening, and I want to continue listening. Before I contribute to the discussion, I've just asked Marge to also include. I've seen Doctor Barack Muluka. Yeah, let me add. So there are a few other people, plus, of course, our friend Mwangi, CPA, who has done quite a bit of research on how corruption and looting is happening at the counties.

Engagement with the Community

So I will be back, but let's have a vibrant discussion. Great. Terry, Tony, you've left. I just added you to the mic. Kindly pick it as I try to add other guests. Oh, let me see if that is gonna work. Now, I think you sent the request again. As I wait, as I add them on, let's have Farah speak. Thank you, Marge. Am I audible? Yes. Okay. Thank you very much. I have a very different opinion from. I don't blame the political class, because for them, it was an opportunity that they saw and wanted to execute.

Civic Responsibility for Governance

And they're, according to them, they're doing it very well. My problem is with us, the citizenry, the people, Sisi, Kamawa, Nanchi. For a period of time, a lot of us have not cared about what happens with our motherland. We have not. Marge, is there a problem? I can't seem to hear anybody. Can you hear the current speaker? Yeah, Farah. I can hear Farah, too. Yeah. Okay, I can hear him. Let's give him one more chance. Then we see what happens. And after. After him, we have Tony on board. Farah, kindly continue.

Acknowledging Collective Inaction

Thank you, ma'am. No problem. I was saying, for a period of time, we haven't cared enough about what happens with the future of our country. Because if you look at the bills that have been. Have been passed for a period of time, since Uhuru's time, to this current regime, it's a continuation. It's a continuous attack on our agricultural sector and our sovereignty. Because, honestly, for lack of better words, and if you look at. We need to. We need to start having the mentality that and understanding that it is our responsibility to develop our motherland.

Local Responsibility for Development

Adani is not c responsibility. Adani or anybody else coming from the outside. I'll give you a very simple example where we can make this happen and ensure that everybody believes in ourselves. Because what Adani is offering, for instance, for the JKIA and all the other airports, is 30% of $2 billion, which is about 600. If you trans. If you let it into kenyan shillings, it's about 78 billion kenyan shillings divided amongst the populace. It's 1560 shillings person. But that's impossible. Why don't we form a consortium, buy shares into it and become Adani? What is stopping us from building our motherlands?

Comparative Success of Nations

The west? America was built by Americans and the immigrants who wanted to be Americans. The 60 years ago, Dubai and all these lands were desolate deserts. But it was built by the Arabs and the money that they pulled from their grounds. You, as a people, what's stopping you? Why do you always have to delegate your responsibility to other people? This is. This is the same reason we have a lot of people having the messiah mentality whereby I, Uno Namtu is just pointing out a problem, not coming up with solutions. But you go on the same boat because he's the only person speaking and you're not responsible enough to take up responsibility.

Generational Collaboration

That was one thing. The second thing, I would really like to talk to the people who are my age, the Gen Zs and the millennials. One of the main reasons why the protests failed was because we told the older generation and everybody else, we do not need you. That's a lie. We need each and everybody. Look at what happened in Egypt, the Tahrir square. It is the Gen Z and the younger generation that were camping out. But the older generation provided them with everything else that they needed. They provided food, water, security, blankets, everything you needed. And that's the only way we are going to change this country.

Focus on Collective Benefit

It's not about you. It's about what's better and what's best for this country. It's about a better tomorrow. And this is one plea I would like to make to the older generation. Doctor Miguna Kina, Tony Gashoka, and all these other older people, we will make mistakes as the younger generation, but we need your wisdom and our energy to make this thing work. Otherwise, we will all keep on complaining online and coming, discussing problems without ever coming up with. With solution or acting on those solutions. I don't think the election cycle or the political class is a problem. We do not love this country enough.

Cultural and National Identity

And the moment you realize that he inchini mimi nawewe. There's a Somali saying that says, dalkawa datka dul ka maha. The country is the people, not the land. So those are my few remarks. Thank you very much. Thanks, Farah. If you don't mind, put that phrase on the comment section. We are gonna land some Somali here as we continue. Thanks. Tony Gashoke. Yes, I would like to also add a verse of the quran before Tony comes on. Go on.

Generational Strength Through History

You know, the older generations, the generations that came before us, dealt with tyrants who were much worse than the people we are dealing with. Moses was told, go and face Faraw, for he has exceeded in transgression. And he said, I am scared for he might exceed upon me or kill me. And God told him, do not be scared, for I am with you all seeing and all hearing. And this was against people who are building the pyramids. We are dealing with people who cannot maintain roads. Look at the disparity. Thank you.

A Call for Awareness and Action

Thanks so much for the very strong ending of that statement. Yes. Over to you, Tony. Yes, good evening to everybody, Marge and my comrade at arms, Doctor Meguna Miguna. Look, fellow Kenyans, we are at the most dangerous time we have ever been, I think, since the construction of the kenyan republic. I say the Kenyan Republic because the more dangerous times, comparable ones, were during the fight for our independence from the colonial powers in order to transform Kenya into a self governing state.

Rising Concerns of Dictatorship

So, so dangerous is the situation because I am seeing a series of activities that can be summarized not just as dictatorship, but a methodical, systematic degrading of our multi party democracy. I mean, we've already talked from the beginning, since the disputed election, that the first thing to discredit was the commission, electoral commission itself, that it was said to be split. But soon after that election, it was buried. As we speak today, nobody in the political class, including the opposition of the government, is talking about the IBUC.

Conspiring Political Dynamics

We are in a situation where there is a conspiracy between the opposition and the government. William Ruto began to see systematically by the opposition MP's. But I think I see something which is even more worrisome. The opposition MP's are seeking William Ruto. It is no longer a one way relationship. This is a two way traffic. The greed of the political class, the excesses of the greed of the political class in Kenya is beyond historical comparisons. Yes, you go to elections, you elect MP's.

Wealth Accumulation and Representation

They vote themselves the biggest salaries and the biggest benefits. When they leave office, they give themselves pensions and health care for life. They have voted within parliament that if you elect a party to government or a party to opposition, they are entitled to the political parties fund. Therefore, even after elections, the public continue to fund their political parties. Many of those political parties are individual enterprises, like in the case of ODM, like in the case of several other smaller parties. One would argue in kenyan politics from the time of DP, from the time of, I think, Foda silly and so forth, that so many of these parties were always individualized.

Corruption and Legal Manipulation

So that even what you call the political parties fund becomes a the piggyback of the so called owners of these parties, again funded by the public. And then all of a sudden, you've seen the other day, parliament within 24 hours can come together in unison, government, opposition and everything in between. And within 24 hours can pass a motion and a bill with two thirds in their interest or in whatever their agenda they want to pass. Without where we are in Kenya today, we elected a government and an opposition that is non existent.

The Lack of Authentic Governance

The kenyan people, under the political party's political act of 2021, were given the position before elections to look at parties. Those parties went out and formed coalitions. In the case of the Kenya Kwanzaa, they formed a coalitions of parties and offered their manifesto and offered their candidatures to the country. In the case of Azimio, they formed a constituent party. The law requires that both the two of two competitors deposit with the registrar of political parties the documents containing the ideology manifesto and the order in which they will govern themselves.

Public Trust in Legislators

So that in case of any disputes, the public would be able to know that there's been a violation of those agreements and that the courts will be participatory in the solving of those problems. So look at these Kenyans. Why we are in real crisis. You are given William Ruto and his run inmate, Willie Rashagwa. On the other hand, you are given Raila and mother Karua. And today, none of whom you voted for is together. You are looking at a situation where William Ruto has undone the popular will of all the people and members of Kenya Kwanzaa, who voted in a team as presented by Ruto to the public.

Evaluating Leadership Legitimacy

You are looking at a situation where Raila Odinga has fallen out with the principles or the people who put together a coalition in Azimio and they put themselves to the public. And the people who voted Azimio and the people who voted Kenya Kwanzaa have all been defrauded. They have been delegitimized. In other words, the mandate that these people are using to govern or to participate in opposition and whatever conspiracies they are building are illegitimate. They are null and void. Ab initial. They do not reflect the will of the people as voted in the general election of 2022.

Addressing Legitimacy Issues

And therefore, what are you doing? You are dealing with an illegal, illegitimate government. Illegal, illegitimate structure of opposition and government. Illegal, illegitimate government of national unity. You are dealing with a government that does not obey court orders. You are dealing with a government which is beginning to infiltrate the judiciary. You are looking at a situation where they pay themselves allowances, where they pay themselves huge amounts in the political parties bill to reward their parties so that small parties emerging from the public can never emerge.

Contemporary Political Climate

Because only those who claim they were voted by us are taking money on our basis and yet they don't reflect us. And they are showing you that they can take two thirds of parliament and do whatever they want with it. So I want to raise this alarm to this nation at this time, at this moment, that let it be said that some of us began to say very early on that we must first of all say that the multiparty state, as described in chapter four of the 2010 constitution, that there will be a government and that there will be an opposition in order that Kenya is a multi party state guaranteed by the Bill of Rights, has now no longer continued to exist and does not exist at all.

A Call for Action

And one of the reasons that I'm in court next Thursday on the 17 October, leading a constitutional petition against the sale of Jomo Kenyatta airport, is because the government and the opposition and parliament and all the persons we have delegated our authority to are taking that authority to waste our society and our property and our assets without getting to the propriety of the case. How do you take an asset that belongs to the public, but it's also a profitable asset so that you take it at no reason whatsoever, give it to, without any public participation, public scrutiny and continue a plan and a system of raping the public.

Call for National Defense

So you rape the public on elections, you rape them by paying yourselves, including giving yourselves pensions taken from the political party's fund. Then you take their assets of Kenya and you say that you're privatizing them. And then you go to the streets and you order the army and deploy them. Then you take guns and bullets and shoot our children. And then you leave them to be buried and rot as dogs. And then you wake up every Sunday and go to church. And the man used to go to church with, regarding Ashagwa, you impeach him in 24 hours, like, as though that was like killing a mosquito on a bed.

Ending Personal Agendas

If they can do that to Gashagwa, what can they do to you? This is a state of an emergency and I'm calling upon all Kenyans, particularly those who say that they are the Gen Z and whatever. This is a time for all hands on deck. I do not want to hear. I have no longer any appetite to hear, oh, this is our favorite person, or this person has done this, or we don't want that person. The reason you continue to be used this way is because of this attitude of arrogance that must stop. Until we stop being arrogant against ourselves, they are going to continue to step on us.

Unity for Progress

We must unify. We must bring in the experience of yesterday with the vigorous anticipation of youth. We must be able to recreate a coalition of the willing. We must be able to bring all Kenyans together in a manner that will surprise them. We look back in our history and you will find that within our history, there were men and women who stood beyond their time and sacrificed beyond their call of duty. Whether it be kenneth Matiba or Angari Mazai or degama Pinto or Tom Boyer or Robert Ooko. There were so many, and there can be so many others who can join within the current and the energetic, in order that what is created is an alternative universe from the universe that is being created by our.

Collective Alternatives

And by our detractors who are captured power in 2022, illegitimately, because they are governing by a fraud. What was cast in votes is not what is in government or opposition altogether. It is therefore true to say that the entire government of Kenya, the entire opposition structure, including parliament, senate, they are all illegal, they are all illegitimate and do not have the mandate of the kenyan people. And therefore, if somebody was to ask me, how are we going to go forward from here? And during the nineties, there was a time we decided not to appeal to the government.

Legal Action for Political Reform

We decided to appeal to lawyers. Then Paul Mute was the chairman of the law society. And there was a time all lawyers began to boycott going to court on any matter, whether it be constitutional, be it corporate law, until certain things were done. We must have a kind of national boycott of our judiciary system. Until such a time, the IBC is put in place. Because without it, without the IBC, all these limitations that people are talking about, be they an idea of referendum, an idea of recalling MP's, an idea anything electoral is null and void, can never take off without an independent electoral, bonderous commission.

Collective Actions for Change

And it is possible to call about other institutions that are not in the control of government. That is why when doctors go to the streets and strike and the hospitals are shut, and when the teachers go to the streets and strike and the schools are shut, the government, with all its arrogance, with all these things they have put on their one side, are forced to come back and kneel before the people. Because that's the language they understand, the language of defiance and the language of saying, no. If we can get the lawyers, if we can talk to them. And obviously, right now, their lawyers are also split because they are those, since then, the government of national unity, who have abandoned us.

Mobilizing for Action

I still believe that we can get a large number of people to disrupt the entire legal system, because until you disrupt the legal system, you cannot get an IBUc. You're not going to get it from parliament. We must find a way in which we hold the government by the neck. We must be able to make sure there is no oxygen in the system of government. And they cannot govern without a legal system. They cannot govern without doctors or teachers. And since those are not the places we need to fight for IBC, mine is to try and see if we can build any kind of consensus around courts and the legal process of boycott as a tool of energizing and bringing, you know, judges and the high court and kenyan people into looking at the IBC question.

Impeachment and Political Strategy

Now, moving from that point, I also want to say that William Ruto's impeachment motion meant very little to me. I really don't give a damn if Irimous gashagua or he does not. But it sent shockwaves to me that this can be the template of extending his rule in parliament by extending his rule of MP's. He can go and say, look, now we want a seven year term. We can be able to come back without any inhibition and use the Museveni Kagame playbook of raping the constitution and in making sure that the 2010 constitution becomes the Ruto constitution of 2024, 2025.

Mobilization for Change

And therefore, my question is not a question, actually, it's a call of action. The call of action that we must do to ensure that this does not happen is to take advantage. Because the enemy of your enemy is my friend. You know, right now, the country and yesterday, opinion polls are showing that 76% to 80% of the country is anti the Ruto government, anti the Ruto coalition. In fact, it has swallowed Ruto, it has swallowed ODM, it has swallowed all the enablers of that government and the public jointly. Nearly 80% is anti this government.

Public Sentiment and Resistance

And that being the case, it means that the public mood, the public displeasure, can be used and can be mobilized into a resistance, and that resistance on the streets can aid the resistance in the courts and because there is despondency. Some of the people who are very angry with this government are angry for selfish reasons. But for me, it does not matter why they are angry. What matters is that there is a lot of anger out there. We must be strategic, we must be definite, we must be conniving.

Unity Against Corruption

We must also act like the thief is active. You must set a thief. To catch a thief. We cannot go there with a Bible and wearing the bishop's cloak when the man is wearing a gun and a machete in his back every night. Against the kenyan people, we must redefine ourselves. We must begin to collaborate and bring together even people we never thought were allies. Because unless we do that, my friends, ladies and gentlemen, where we are in the middle of 2024, God forbid, where we will be in the middle of 2025 unless we as a people, rise up.

Clarifying Judicial Strategies

Finally, on the Adani question, I want to give this undertaking that I think because people have been confused about the two processes in court. One was a judicial review by the LSK and mine is a constitutional application which seeks to nullify the matter completely. I believe that from the 17th, the High Court will have merged the two matters to motto and that this matter of the JKA will be one of the first times we can draw blood from the veins of William Ruto.

A Call to Action in Kenya

A very thorough process has been put in place. I'm limited by the rules of the courts, what I may say or not say, but I want to learn for now by saying, Kenyans, we are in the most dangerous time we have ever been since the establishment of the Kenyan Republic in 1964. Thank you. Thank you so much, Tony, for powerful submission. I'm aligned with everything that you've said, especially where you've said, now, we need all hands on deck. This movement needs all of us to work together. If you do not, if you have, if you think of working as a separate group or is acting under a separate organization, then you have not properly diagnosed who the enemy is and who we are.

Importance of Unity

What's going on, doctor, you can hear me? I don't think doctor can hear me. Continue. Let me text him. Okay. The way Tony has probably tried to shape and make you understand how this government, this corrupt government, cannot be defeated, cannot be beaten by separate. When we work in secretarian parties, we have to unite because we are literally at a very dangerous point in this country with all the tyranny that is creeping in. I'd like to give the microphone to welcome Nelson on the space. He was a little bit late. Before I give him the microphone, we just want to acknowledge your presence. I'll have two speakers go and then I'll give the microphone to Nelson.

A Request for Participation

If you hear my alarm go off now, you have exhausted your three minutes. We have a heavy request line and we have to get as many speakers as we can, to commentate on the state of the nation. So I'll give the microphone to Tom Boyer Junior. Tom Boyer, are you there? Tom Boyer? We cannot hear me. Samuel Cassuni. Cassuni. Samuel, are you able to hear me? I'm here, Tom. Thomas. Let me. Let me proceed. I just. I hope you are hearing me. Kindly confirm with 100. Yes, go ahead. Yes, I'm speaking. Thank you.

A Call for Strategy

I want to. I just. I hope you are hearing me. Kindly confirm with 100. Well, I. I just want to be very precise. There is one observation I've made so far. There is one observation I've made so far. And with regards to the comments by Tony Gachoka. We really need to unite and we really need to craft a strategy that is similar, almost similar to the strategy of our enemy. Because when we are in a ring, we want to fight. The rules are always the same and it's always a must that you stay on the ring until you win.

Government's Strategy and Counteractions

So what I've always observed with the government is that they have strategists that coin what they have to do, what narrative they have to set in the country. And also they have a system whereby they engage bloggers to keep confusing Kenyans with different narratives. How I wish we can also be such strategic. We also need to get serious bloggers, for example, with an aim of countering and focusing on the bloggers themselves. For example, the government, in a way, managed to identify key leaders or key revolutionaries who are very influential among us, and they decided to share sentiments that divide these key revolutionaries.

Addressing Government's Divide and Conquer Strategy

I suggest that we should be able to focus on also dividing the government bloggers. Let us even consider going for personal and private lives to confuse them. That is just one of the suggestions I want to make. Another thing that is an unpopular opinion is that the only strategy that is going to work for us is the streets. That is what made Ruto, for the first time, to say Kenyans. I concede. So the streets is the only thing that is going to help us. Let us just keep organizing on how we can make sure we get back to the streets.

Alternative Approaches to Justice

Any other thing, focusing on a legal approach that we are going to get salvation through our judicial system. That one, I believe, is very delusional because the constitution itself is an instrument of power and they have strategically used it. Other instruments of power, which is money and the gun, they have it. We only have the people. Let us utilize our strength as much as we can otherwise. Thank you. Thank you so much, Tom Boyer. I'll pass the microphone to Samuel Cassuni.

Acknowledgment of Contributions

Samuel, after just a moment, before Samuel gets on, I'd like to take this opportunity to acknowledge Clayson Maniela all the way from South Africa. Thanks for joining and feel free to pick the mic or I'll send you the mic if you want to say something that's really welcome. And Doctor Eve from Uganda and we have also our brothers and sisters who are coming from the continent just joining in the conversation. Back to you, Afro. Oh, thank you so much Clayton. As what is being said?

Understanding Ruto's Governance Style

Yes, the only language I believe Ruto understands is the language of the streets. We have seen what kind of president and he is. We have seen him begin to kill youths, abduct us. And everyone, especially the generals who understand and those who have been fighting this for a long time, they understand what the Nyayo era was like. And all the reversals of the democratic gangs have started happening slowly. Tyranny always creeps up on you. It is creeping on us slowly.

Acknowledging the Rising Intensity of Tyranny

We all know the analogy of how to boil a frog. If you put a frog in hot water, it will quickly jump out. But if you increase it, the temperature, slowly, slowly, you will eventually cook it. And that's what's happening in our country. The temperatures are increasing and all the alarmists. When you have doctor saying that the temperature is increasing, we are seeing now we are going back into the dark days. We have seen the parliament, all the checks and balances are being neutralized.

Critique of the Current Political Landscape

This is the most defunct parliament we ever had in the history of the country where not only is the president looking to bribe them, the MP's want to be bribed, the opposition neutralized. ODM and their MP's are the ones singing praises to Ruto and defending his policies. That is the IBC not functioning. And those people are thinking we are going to have a political solution by forming a political party and we are going to compete with Ruto on a political context.

Mass Action as the Only Solution

We cannot. That is out of the question. And there are people who still believe that. So the only solution is mass action. And that's why we must keep on injecting, we must keep on letting people know that this is the course of action. We have to deal with Ruto because even he has already started saying that you want to table a parliament bill to increase the term limits to seven years. Imagine seven years, then after 14 years he'll take over the term.

Urgency of Action Against Ruto's Government

Who says he has to be there for two years? So we can see this happening slowly. And that's why we must struggle. We must kill this baby in its infancy before it becomes this demonic idea. Must be killed right now. We must take over as the citizens of this country who love this country anyway, I'll give the microphone to Samuel, are you there? Yes, I'm here. Thank you so much and Maj for hosting the space.

Importance of a Multi-faceted Approach

I do agree with you when you talk about we can't use a political process. At the same time, I think we also have to be cautious of the interests of we might be very emotionally drained that we feel like demonstrations are the best way to remove the current regime. But I also wonder it should also go parallel with another political process because we have so many people, so many countries which are like so many countries have a lot of interest in our country and might not be able to sustain the mandamanoi for a long time.

Infighting Among Groups

Secondly, we are waste, we are fighting too much on the. When you look at the media in the. In the spaces in the TL, there's a lot of infighting. So. So I think we need to look for a common ground where we can be able to cool down the temperatures and people just come together for common purpose. And as Kashoka said, the only problem, the biggest problem we have right now is we have parties that are owned by the individuals where people can be called together.

Challenges of Political Party Ownership

I know right now or DM they are meeting Mombasa and whatever right now we say is what will happen. Same to the other parties. So I don't know which way we'll be able to build parties like those of us who have privileged to be in the western countries, we know that parties are owned by people and all leaders are contributed from the people. So that is another way we should be running parallel or many events at one time as we call for mandamano civic education.

Learning from Past Movements

Other people should also be concentrating on the political system so that if all these other fails we can be able to copy what happened in 2002 where we had a very popular parana, the popular party that was able to. We could not even be able to rig that is. So let's look for a way of also some people should also look for a way of how do we support nurturing a party that belongs to people so that we take this away power from these parties that are owned by individuals.

Need for Coordinated Efforts

So that is my contribution as also can we have all the people influential? You may not agree, but you can agree on a certain calendar whereby we agree. Next week we are going to discuss about IBC so that every platform, every space, every influential blogger and you have said some of the bloggers we need, even if is to buy them. We all talk about IBC to put pressure so that we can be able to accelerate the process.

Addressing IBC's Inactivity

Because right now I understand the reason why IBC is not working is because of some petitions that have been filed by some people, and they are mark timing. So how do we know that those people are not also being used by the government to delay the IBC process? Secondly, if IBC is constituted today and we still have ODM and UdA. Yeah, what choice will he have?

Consequences of Party Loyalty

So unless we have a third force, a political system which we own, I don't see even constituting an IB service way to help us, because we still have the same parties which we have to choose between a thief and a lesser thief. Thank you. All right. Thank you so much, Samuel, for that. Marge, you had your hand up.

Indication of Time Constraints

No, I was just trying to put a signal through that his time is up. But you then came in with the timer. That's perfect. We had a queued. Nelson, next, right? Yes. Over to you, Nelson. Welcome to the space and take it away. Thank you. Marge, I have three minutes.

Discussion of Corruption and State Capture

You can take Mo as one of the invited guests. Okay. Thank you, Marge. Thank you. Afrocentric and book ten. Yeah. So today I'm gonna be speaking about not only about Adani and JKIA deal, but also about shif. Because the Adani deal is not just about a transaction over Kenya's largest airport. It's a symbol of how powerful private interest can manipulate public assets for profit.

State Capture by Government Officials

And it's a symbol of state capture that when this government came into power, they were shouting at the top of their voices that they're going to form commissions of inquiry to look into the issue of state capture. But in essence, they were actually trying to remove the other state capture. You know, like they were trying to remove the people in the Uhuru regime who had captured the state so that they can also capture the state.

Exposing Individuals in Power

And this is what we are seeing happening today with Jayesh Saini, with Adil Kawaja. You have seen Adil Kawaja used to be KCB chairman. When he was in KCB, Uhuru harassed him a lot because he was helping to launder money. And when Ruto became president, he put him in charge of Safaricom so that, you know, they can continue with their state capture, you know, unhinged.

The Allegations of Corruption and Implications

Because now there is no Uhuru to try and block them. And you have seen how Adil Kawaja has been instrumental in even the Adani case. They are the legal advice. They are the legal representatives of Adani in court today through Denton's HHM Harris. And I've forgotten this law firm from London.

Investigating Conflict of Interest

So where Adil Kawaja used to be the CEO before he became the chairman of Safaricom. Now he's the partner in this law firm where Nick Ruto is also a partner. But it's not announced, nobody knows. But he's not even practiced for a long time. NIck RutO has practiced for I think about three years and already he's been elevated to this level.

The Dangers of State Capture

You can see a lot of conflict of interest and many things happening in the background. Well, that tells you that this is really state capture. And Adil Kawaja's friend Jayesh Sayini as well has captured the healthcare sector. And this is what I really want to emphasize today because Jayesh Saini is also the link to Adani.

Link Between Jayesh Saini and Government Corruption

He's the one who took President Ruto to Modi and also to Adani himself. Gotcha Madani. And you must also remember that Raila is not clean in this business because before the elections, Jayesh Saini took Raila Odinga to Modi. If you go and check the news, you will see Raila Odinga traveled to India before the elections.

Corruption's Role in Politics

So normally what this state capture Cabal do before the elections, they place their bets on both sides of the political divide. So that whichever side gets into power, they still hold on to their businesses because they are businessmen and for them politicians are just rent seekers. They are the landlords.

The Influence on the National Budget

They are the ones who control the money. Jayesh Saini for the last ten years has been controlling the teachers insurance plus police insurance. And in the last ten years he has c fund 150 billion from TSC. And this case was in parliament last year in November. But the MP's were paid off and they did not continue with the inquiry.

Issues of Accountability

Someone went to court, the case went silent. The case went cold earlier this year in March because the 150 billion that was seafoned from the teachers insurance means that the teachers do not get help. First of all, Jayesh Saini has over 20 companies in the health sector. He has the most famous companies that are known by people is life care.

The Impact of Healthcare Mismanagement

Bliss Healthcare is known. But there are so many other companies that he has over 20 of them. And if the police or the teachers do not go to these clinics, they are either denied service or it's a prolonged procedure or the private clinic will be asked to give like 1015 20% discount. If you refuse, you'll be told to go to bliss.

Medical Services and Insurance Fraud

So these were some of the things that the MP's were asking Jayesh Sayini through Makl, which is the medical administration. And remember this makl. I call it Makhil. So the insurance company that Jayesh owns illegally c fund this 150 billion shillings from the TSC. And nobody is saying anything about it.

Discussions Around Healthcare Insurance Failures

Also this year, in March, when the contract was about to be renewed. So the P's. The P's went. The P's. I've forgotten which ministry. But the P's went to the president and other people as well. They went to Ruto and they told him that this Makl is not working. And the teachers are suffering, the police are suffering.

Confronting Government Inaction

We need to look for a new insurance broker or insurance administrator. And Ruto told them, okay, fine. You guys look for another consortium of insurance brokers. And then we will send out a tendering process. But behind everybody's back, Jayesh Saini's company came back. And up to now, it's Jayesh Saini's company that is still siphoning money from TSC, money from police.

Scandals Surrounding Insurance Administration

And now in the new shift, they're the ones who are doing administration. So they have a company called Star Discovery Insurance. Star Discovery Insurance is owned by some four companies from Hong Kong. And this Star Discovery is a company that is one of the companies Jayesh Saini is owning.

Proxy Companies in Healthcare

So he's a proxy in this company. And this Star Discovery is the one that is going to run shif the insurance claims at Schiff a Piero is a company that is being fronted. But in the background, it is Jayesh Saini's company that has actually done the system that is. That has failed. This system that is not working is from Jayesh Saini.

Corruption in the Educational Sector

It's the same exact system that they are using to run the teachers TsE insurance. And so the 104 billion is a big scandal. It's a hoax. There is no system that was procured. The only thing they did was to take this system and make it look like it came from India.

Demanding Accountability for Corruption

But it's the same system that is being used by teachers insurance. Same exact. It's a copyright. So this is a huge scandal that should be challenged in court. And Tony, I also welcome you to, if you can, to, you know, put a team together and sue these people because this is totally unacceptable.

Addressing the Consequences of Corruption

They cannot sell our assets. They cannot sell our people to go and work in farms and to work as maids in foreign countries. And then they cannot bring Indians to our own country to kill us because over 10,000 teachers in this insurance fraud have died because either there is a prolonged procedure or someone is in dire need of being admitted to the ICU and the insurance guys will be like, no, you cannot admit him.

Healthcare and Public Safety

Just treat as outpatient. And then later, this patient dies. It's a horror story, to say the least. And these people need to be in jail. We need to speak up just as the way we spoke up because of the finance bill, Kenyans need to speak up. We need to show our anger to these people, because if we do not do it either, we are going to die, you know, on our knees, we are going to die.

The Consequences of Silence and Inaction

And so many people who are hopeless, you know, they will just die. Like, the teachers are dying in silence, the police are dying in silence. And now through the shift now, everybody will die in silence. So if we don't speak up, if we don't go to the streets, the same thing that Jayesh has done for the last ten years with teachers and police is now going to happen to everybody, because shif now is for everybody.

Urgency for Action Against Corruption

And they're going to sif on money from shif for the next ten years or even more. So Jayesh Saini has a. He has a loan of about 7 billion in DTB. And if we refuse for them to take over Schiff, he might go bankrupt. Because these people, the way they operate, Jayesh Saini and Adil Kawaja, they are connected to a company in the UAE.

Exploring Connections in International Business

This company is called NMC Healthcare. NMC healthcare almost brought down healthcare in the UAE. You can imagine a country like the UAE, so big, so rich, but there was one Indian called Br Shetty who almost brought their healthcare down the entire country.

The Consequences of Mismanagement

And these people are connected to Jayesh Saini. This guy, Biarsheti, he had to run away from to India because he was embroiled in a $4.5 billion scandal. And, you know, this almost brought down the entire hospital because, well, the money was c fund out of the UAE.

Highlighting Financial Irregularities

Part of the money was directed to Jayesh signes companies as loans, but they never paid back. So this is the same thing, same way they are operating in Kenya. And this 7 billion loan that Jayesh Sayini took from DTB, normally they take these loans and you cannot have your assets to be less and your loans to be more.

The Reasons Behind Financial Collapse

Your assets need to be more, and then your loans need to be below your assets. But the way Br Shetty operated, his assets were less than his liabilities, and that's how he became bankrupt. And the same thing is happening in Kenya through Jayesh Saini.

Impacts on Business and Governance

His liabilities are more than his assets. Meaning if he doesn't get business from the government today, he becomes bankrupt. And that's what we need to do. We need to make sure that he is not going to sif on money from the government the way he's been doing.

Failures in Healthcare Services

Because the only reason he's not paying, you hear, oh, MtRH is owed, I don't know, 1 billion. I don't know which hospital is owed 100 billion from the insurance claims. The only reason why this money is not being paid to these hospitals is because his liabilities are too many.

Consequences of Poor Governance

He has to service his loans. Service what? So in return, he will not offer the right service, he will not pay these hospitals. And now it's going to be at a national scale. Not only the teachers and the police, it's going to be everybody who's going to suffer because of the unscrupulous business deals and state capture.

Action as a Deterrent

So we need to stop this. And the only way out is protests. If you look at France, for example, in 2023, the government came up with an extension of the retirement age. So they wanted people to retire at later ages. And the people were like, no, you cannot do this.

Examples of Protests Impacting Governance

You haven't consulted the people. And people went to the streets, people protested. The protests were huge. I'm sure you saw them. And the government had to listen to the people the world over. In Bangladesh, it's the protest that brought down the government. In the US, it's the protests that, you know, hold a democracy in so many other countries, it's protests that hold the politicians at bay.

Understanding Political System through Protests

It's the protests that make the politicians understand that the power is not on them. The power belongs to the people. And it's only through protest. By disrupting every day, by disrupting parliament, disrupting everything that, you know, works normally. That's when politicians understand that this power does not belong to us.

Demand for Change in Kenya

And this is exactly what we need to do in Kenya. Otherwise, oh, if we stay, let's prepare for 2027. This is exactly what they want. They don't care about 2027. They will still up to 2027. The only way to stop them is today to go to the streets.

Historical Connections to People Power Movements

So thank you, Afrocentric. You can take it back. Thank you so much, Nelson, for that in-depth analysis of everything that's happening. I would pass the microphone now to culture. Culture, Kenya media. Thank you, Afrocentric. Yes, loud and clear.

Highlighting the Need for Support

I had a suggestion and Nelson did not bring it up. And I'm so happy here, Nelson, that you're here because I did DM you yesterday and I hope you don't mind I talk about this because you did post something yesterday, because you were saying kind of French lawyers are expensive and you needed some assistance.

Support for Nelson's Efforts

So I just wanted to bring that up. Maybe you're too humble to bring it up that Nelson has been doing a very good job. He does need our assistance. He does need lawyers and he did post his numbers. Guys, let's change for him so that he can be able to fight these demons that are against him.

Organizing for Diaspora Protests

The other thing I wanted to ask Miguna, I know he's here. Nelson Maj, I don't know which country you're in. Why don't we have a diaspora international day of protest? We are actually in countries because usually I go back and forth from the US to Kenya.

Engaging the Diaspora in Protests

Six months in Kenya, six months in the US because I work remote. Why? We are in countries where protests, we're not going to be shut down. Why don't we all do a diaspora space and we do an international day of protest. There are a lot of Kenyans in London, there are a lot of Kenyans in Berlin, a lot of Kenyans in New York, a lot of Kenyans in Atlanta, a lot of Kenyans in Tennessee.

Mobilizing Global Support

All these countries that we go and we protest. So we have our colleagues in Kenya, but now we take over the mantle too, rather than just monetary help, we do our protests and it will be international because Kenya, I've been to Greece, we are Kenyans there and we do our protests because they are going also to highlight this on an international level.

Strategizing for Effective Protests

And we do two days, we do a weekend, we do a Saturday and a Sunday. If you have your kids come out, your parents can come out. All the African friends who we have Nigerians come, people from West Africa, all of them who are supporting Kenyans, they'll come out.

Creating International Solidarity

If you have friends who are international, even in Europe, your friends will come out. I really, really think this will make an impact because everybody's saying, hey, we need to protest. But we in the diaspora have not done our part in the protests. I know we are all contributing in some ways. We need to do a flyer, we need to do a big diaspora space and everybody who's in the diaspora has no excuse not to come out.

Impact of Coordinated Protests

We can all come out in all international cities where we are and really put this guy to shame in the international media because that's the other push that we've not done and will bring the momentum to another level. So I'm urging all the people who are outside Kenya, we'll all go back. Me, I want to go home. I don't want to be here.

Reflections on Participation

Honestly, I want to be full time in Kenya, but at the same time, systems are not working for you. The biggest investors, instead of Ruto coming here, should be coming here and talking to the diaspora people. We are the ones who want to invest back home.

Call to Action for International Protests

So I'm urging everybody, let's do an international space and really get out there. Two days hardcore protesting. We are free. We are here. Nobody is going to bother us. We can be able to protest every single day we want to. Anytime we want to, we can do that.

Final Thoughts on International Awareness

So before I just land again, let's do a diaspora. Your time is up here. Okay, I'm just wrapping it up. Let's do an international space. And guys, please help out Nelson. Thank you, guys. Thank you. Thank you for highlighting that fact.

Community Support for Nelson

We need to support Nelson, please, Nelson, if you can put some of those details on the jumbotron, we'll be happy to put the word out because you're doing an amazing job. And culture, I'm not sure how much you know about what's been happening in the diaspora circles, but there have been protests held.

Recap on Diaspora Participation

I know. Protests were done in London. Protests were done in Los Angeles. Protests were done in Texas, Dallas. Protests were done in Germany. The diaspora has been very much supporting what this movement has been doing from the get-go. So if, unless you're calling for another round, another spark of protests.

Acknowledging Ongoing Support

But we have really, Kenyans in the diaspora have really supported everything. This moment is going. Another round. I'm sorry, I'm cutting you off. Another round. I'm sorry, I'm cutting you off. Another round. Another round.

Planning for Future Protests

Oh, got you. Yes. Another round. Maj. Yes. Thanks so much. Afraid I just wanted to say I put the link that Nelson shared on the jumbotron. Thanks, Nelson. Guys, do support him if you're able to. And also thank you for the good work that you do.

Protests and Activism

And talking of protest, I'd like to highlight the upcoming protest in the Netherlands. They're protesting around the Mashujad day. I put it on my highlights, but I'm going to put it again on the, you know, just on the comment section.

Continuing the Discussion

And at this time, I'd like to give the general, you know, the opportunity to chime in as we continue. I know a lot of you are waiting on the mic, but that's just fine. Nelson, you hand it up. Please say something before the general comes in.

Mention of Expert Contributions

Yeah, I texted you, so we need to have CPM Mwangi, he's an expert in PPP, so it would be nice if he speaks. I think he requested the. Okay, let me check on him and add him. Meanwhile, as I add him. Doctor, take a go.

Welcoming Expert Opinions

Marja. I would wait for CPM Mwangi to speak first. I think we're expecting him. So Nelson is right. Ok, then let me remove someone and then. Oh, there he is. Okay, so CPM, take it away and then we go to general and then we can proceed like that.

Concluding Remarks

Yeah. My apologies. Okie dokie. Thank you. So that bounces back to the Terry. Not unless we can give fix. Oh, okay. Okay. All right. Maj, thank you very much. The discussion has been very good and I thank everybody for their contributions.

Reflections on the Historical Context

I think everything said, I embrace. The only thing I would like to say is that these discussions need much more focus, laser beam focus, as I always say, because if we are not singularly focused, we will confuse the people and we will not be able to identify the principle problems and be able to design strategies and tactics of solving them.

Feedback on Historical Narratives

So why do I say that? I have had people talk as if there was democracy and the bill of rights were respected and the rule of law was there before Ruto or during Kibaki's reign, or that the only problem was Moi. And I think this, we have to be able to correct that misapprehension and misconception since the so-called independence, since 1963, there are basic things that have not changed and that need to be transformed.

Political History and Modern Parallels

And the reason why I say that is the Kenyan state, and I've said this repeatedly, was not intended to empower the African citizen of Kenya. It was not meant for Africans. The Kenyan state was an extractive state that was only set up to extract resources, exploit the labor and dominate the people.

Current Government's Role in Structural Issues

And the state was meant to have Africans as mascots representing the international interests of capital, so that when Ruto is there, his purpose and aim is to steal as much as he can, but ultimately to serve the metropole, Washington, London, Berlin, Paris and these major capitals of the west.

Dynamics of Political Leadership

That is why when Ruto goes to New York or he goes to Washington DC, or he goes to London, he can walk on the street almost like an ordinary citizen. But he cannot do that in Kenya, because in Kenya his lord is an imperial lord.

Contrasting Political Behavior

But in London, where he has lords that are supposed to be giving instructions on what to do, in Kenya, he can behave as an ordinary citizen. In Kenya, he has a motorcade the length of River Nile, whereas in Washington he carries his own umbrella.

Power Structures in Different Contexts

You can see the discordance between the behavior that these people exhibit in foreign countries vis a vis how they behave in our own country. In our own country, they are slave masters and we are slaves. And in foreign countries, they are ordinary citizens.

Need for Structural Change

And this mentality, this structural defect, this structural setup, is what has to be changed. That is why a lot of us are saying the problem is with the system. The problem is with the architecture and the structure of the state.

Insufficient Reforms for Meaningful Change

The problem is with the institutions that were set up, not to serve us, not to accord us dignity, not to preside over a democratic, fair and just system, but to oppress us for as much as possible, so that it is easier now to exploit us and to take the resources away from us.

Proposing Revolutionary Change

So what is the solution? I think it is wrong, and I know many people, or some people will disagree with me, but I think it is fundamentally wrong to talk about the IBC, to talk about the police, to talk about the judiciary or any of these systems that were set up to preside over the state that I've just described.

Critique of Reform Proposals

The entire system is rotten and cannot be reformed. If you set up an IBC today, Ruto will put his cronies, the likes of Sudi or people like him, so that when any election comes, whether you dissolve parliament or you don't, the people that will be elected will behave worse than the ones that you have currently.

Consequences of Inaction

So you would have done absolutely nothing. Zero. You would have scored at your own goal. If you say, we reform the judiciary, so who presides over the reform? Who will appoint that person? It will be Ruto.

Daniel Arap Moi's Legacy

So who do you think Ruto will appoint? Somebody worse than Komi, so that the system that was supposed to exploit you, that was supposed to repress you, is even more efficient. If you say we reform the police, who will appoint the committee that will preside over the reform? The same. Same Ruto.

Political Structures and Their Impact

Ultimately, my point is this. The main problem is a political problem. It is a structural problem, it is an institutional problem. And if we don't overhaul the existing state and structures, then you cannot solve the problem. We will be going round like fools forever.

Historical Context of Struggles

And this is what we have done since 1963. Yes, we have had struggles, and yes, we've had veterans of struggles, and I've been one of them that have been struggling, but we've achieved so little. For instance, we managed to stop Moi from continuing until he died.

Political Developments Under Different Regimes

So he ended up saying, look, I repeal section two a and I reintroduced multi-party politics. But then they came around, mutated and took over the multiparty politics, and they are the ones who have been controlling.

Challenges in Kenyan Politics

So nothing much changed. Yes. The previous constitution, the old one, allowed Moi to detain us anytime he wanted torture us at Nyayo torture chambers anytime he wanted to force as many people into exile as he wanted.

Revolutionary Change and Impact

And yes, we made sure that a new constitution came into being, which is what we have, the constitution of Kenya, 2010. And people died, thousands of people died. Thousands of people were tortured, thousands of people were exiled.

Recognition of Struggle

Ngugi is still in exile, for example, right? I mean, Khilagat Mutai died a pauper because of it. Kaguya died a pauper because of it. Pinto was murdered. So when we say there has been an ongoing struggle from 1963, we are not joking.

Significance of Civil Action

Anybody who wants to say that, oh, only Gen. Z started struggling. That person will have to be liberated from their colonial mentality. Many, many people have suffered to have us now be able to speak and challenge a sitting president the way that we are doing.

Calls for Continued Advocacy

But it's not been enough. So what is it we have to do? Because state capture is the norm, is the order of things. Adani will not go. Adani is actually Ruto.

Addressing the Courts and Political Accountability

The courts will not be able to untangle all these things. This is not the work for judges. This is a political problem. And you're not going to solve it through forming political parties.

Understanding Electoral Manipulations

Because the system, the electoral system, is completely colonized by Ruto and his group and others. The system is not free. So the same way that Che Bukati announced Ruto as president and whether he won fairly or not is of no consequence.

Challenges of Electoral Democracy

The fact is, the system was rigged from day one. How do we liberate the system? To liberate the system and everything will fall into place. We have to remove Ruto from power.

Concluding Thoughts on Political Structure

Let's not dance around this issue. The problem is at the top. The problem is at State house. With Ruto out of power, we can transform the system. The system below him will collapse on its own weight once he's removed from power.

Historical Lessons of Revolution

And the best way to remove Ruto from power, and this is documented, is patented historically, since 1789. The French revolution is people power. This is how it's been done. This is how the Bangladeshi did it. This is how the Sri Lankans did it.

Understanding Historical Context

This is how every other society has done it. It cannot be done any other way. I know many will ask, how do we do it if we are not united? You don't need everybody united. That's another illusion.

Historical Examples of Change

That's another destruction. The Cuban revolution was not brought by even a half of the population. The Bangladeshi revolution was not brought by even 2 million people. And how many people are in Bangladesh? You don't need 5% of Kenyans to remove Ruto from power.

Mobilizing Citizen Action

You just need one to 2 million people. That's a very small fraction of Nairobi's population. And really, you don't need anybody else, anywhere else except in Nairobi.

Strategizing for Political Change

Ruto can be removed from power from Nairobi. Ruto will not be removed from power from Washington or from New York or from Toronto or from London. Ruto will be removed from power in Nairobi.

Protests as a Tactical Approach

So we should not dance around some of these things, because the formula is well known and the strategy is scientific, that the moment you have a significant number of people protesting on the street, even the police cannot intervene, because we have less than 250 thousand policemen in Kenya.

The Power of Mass Mobilization

So if you have 2 million people, the police cannot shoot. Remember, on June 25 this year, Ruto had already fled Nairobi. Ruto was not in Nairobi. He had already run away.

The Fear of an Engaged Populace

He was in Iraq waiting to go to Eldoret, and then probably from there, Uganda.

Ruto's Readiness and Internal Challenges

So even on the 25 June, Ruto was ready to leave power. The problem is that were infiltrated, and we had voices through nis announcing that people should not march to state house, people should go home. These are the things we have to deal with. These are internal contradictions that we must deal with. These are the contradictions that were not there in Bangladesh. The students were being killed on the street, and by the way, more died in Bangladesh than died in Kenya. But they stayed on the street every single day, and they liberated their country. And the rest is history. And we can see the transformation of Bangladesh with our own eyes right now, in real time.

Historical Context and Organic Revolutions

And they were not shouting at their counterparts that were not in Bangladesh, like, the person presiding over the transition was not even in Bangladesh, is some old retired professor that was living in Peri. The same thing happened in Iran. The ayatollah was in Peri when the Iranian revolution took place. It was not in Iran. So a lot of people are ignorant of this and are ignorant about what is happening. Revolutions happen all over the world organically, but in a disciplined, focused, fearless manner. But it has to be consistent. Revolutionaries must identify who their enemy is or enemies are singularly and not be confused and not be distracted.

Challenges with Impeachment and Power Dynamics

Anybody telling us that we petition, we collect a million signatures to remove Ruto is either working for ruto or for NIYs or from the international intelligence agencies, or is just a fool because you're not going to remove Ruto through petitions. Anybody who tell you that, oh, we just need one member of parliament to bring an impeachment motion is also either full or working for Ruto or working for the international intelligence agencies, because Ruto will not be impeached he owns the members of parliament. He has given them the freedom to loot the illegal CDF as much as they want. So as far as they are concerned, the person who is giving them millions, hundreds of millions of public money every year to loot is their boss.

The Reality of Political Loyalty and Power

They are going to salute Atruto, they are going to worship him, they are going to kneel before him, they are going to kiss him, they are going to do everything he wants, and that is exactly what they are doing. If you have any doubt, then look at the speed at which they impeached Gachagwa. Gachagwa, who was Ruto's running mate just two years ago. Gachagwa, who apparently spent billions in Ruto's campaign. Gachagwa, who campaigned for Ruto in Kikuyu, in Mount Kenya, and had Ruto win the election. If they can turn against Gachaga, who the hell are you? You have not given Ruto even one dime. You have not campaigned for him.

The Nature of Violence in Political Contexts

Who are you? Why should Ruto care about you? And as you can see, he doesn't care about you. Now, a lot of people say, oh, revolutions are violent, revolutions are uncertain. What is more violent than Ruto? Because I don't understand these people when they make these arguments. Since independence, how many people have been killed who have been so innocent, killed by the state? So let's start with the easiest. Kenyatta killed Pupinto. What crime did he commit? What violence did Pinto inflict on Kenya? Who did Pinto steal from? Do you know? Because there is none.

Historical Figures and State Violence

So Goto Mboya, who had helped him in his strategies even to destroy Jaram oginko dinga. So why did he kill Mboya? Tom Boya was a brilliant man, young, vibrant, charismatic, eloquent, a super mobilizer. They killed him for what? What had he done? How about doctor Robert Uko? Just recently, another one. What had he done? How about Udhiambombai? A quintessential gentleman, a super scholar. What did he do? All he did was bring us devolution. He's the one who introduced this devolution idea. Not rail.

Consistent Threats to Political Change

Odinga, rail. Odinga is an appropriator. He appropriates people's intellectual properties and say it is his. Udiya. Mumbai brought us the devolution. Did he live to see it or its benefits? No. How about Musando? How about the Gen zs that Ruto killed and called violent and he called criminals? So if this system and the president's successive ones have been killing Kenyans, killing demonstrators and armed protesters, what will stop them. The constitution hasn't stopped them. The legal system hasn't stopped them.

Constitutional Failures and Popular Resistance

Court orders haven't stopped them. The quote unquote democratic, you know, governance hasn't stopped anybody. The west hasn't stopped them. So who will stop them? We are the only ones who can stop them. I speak from experience because I was there. I've been there. I mean, people pretend that they were not there in 2018 when we were protesting and I was abducted from my house and tortured and sedated and dropped dead in Dubai and left for dead and then forced out and blocked from coming to Kenya for five years. And people pretend this did not happen.

Historical Context of Violence and Activism

And people pretend we have not seen anything. We have not suffered. They are the ones suffering now. And people insist that no, only one person should be suffering every day and dying for us, but we should not be risking our lives because somebody should be leading, should be coming to lead us, should be our liberator. I want to remind you that Che Guevara, who probably is the dean of revolutionary politics in the world, said and have been saying this, there is no liberator. Nobody is going to liberate you, and nobody must and nobody should.

The Collective Responsibility of Liberation

You must liberate yourself, every one of us. Because if you don't want to liberate yourself, how will the other person liberate you? If you don't want to risk and go into the street? Because you are saying, Miguna's children are not here. So how will my children being there help you? So say, for example, they are not there, which means they are not suffering under. So which means whether Ruto goes or not doesn't matter to them. So who is suffering? You are suffering.

Addressing the Reality of Suffering

They are not suffering. And this is the reality. We have to just face the reality you are suffering. Some of us have sacrificed our lives for you, and some of us continue to agitate, to talk about these things and to expose them and to call for change. We could easily forget about everything and continue with our lives. Why haven't we? Because we are committed to an egalitarian, equitable, fair and just social order. That's why we are doing it.

Diverse Approaches to Political Change

We are doing it because it is the right thing to do, and we are doing it from wherever we are, and we are doing it with whatever ammunition we have. So if you have the pen and that's all you can wield, use it. If you have the eloquence and that's all you can do, use it. If you have bazooka and you can come in large numbers and use them. Use them if you have numbers, which is what we are saying is our best weapon.

Mobilization and the Power of Numbers

Our numbers, because it's very difficult to defeat a million plus people marching and armed peacefully. If you attack those people and you kill them, you cannot survive because nobody will let you survive. The world cannot let you survive. Yes, we know the horrors of Palestine and so far the Israelis have gotten away with it. But it will not go on forever, I can assure you. Now, Kenya is a bit different. The Americans will not be able to do what they are doing in Palestine, in Kenya, they will not protect Ruto because Ruto has no benefit that he gives them, that they cannot replicate or they cannot replace.

American Interests and Political Dynamics

Which means that if Ruto is removed today, they can use somebody else. They hope, as long as there is no revolution, if there is a revolution, the Americans would want to do business with the. The people that have taken power and try to corrupt them the way they did with Museveni, with other people. But if it is a genuine organic revolution that is grounded on the genuine grievances of the people and are supported by the people and owned by the people, it cannot be sabotaged.

Historical Resilience against External Interference

They have tried many times to overthrow the government of Burkina Faso. They have failed so far. And that government is working for the people because it's a revolutionary government. They tell us there is no benefit the revolutionaries have brought. We know the benefits that Tomats and Kara brought in Burkina Faso before they assassinated them. We know that child mortality rate dropped almost to zero. We know that a dry country became food secure. We know that gender equality became a reality in the 1970s.

Leverage from Past Successes

We are not talking 2000 something in the 1970s. We know that corruption was eliminated in four years. And we know that there was no repression, that the Burkina Bay called themselves the upright men and women of the world and the world respected them. So what I'm saying is that at the end of the day, the only challenge we have and we must confront is what are the mechanisms, what are the strategies of organizing ourselves and mobilizing the people so that Ruto can be removed from power this year, not next year, in 2024.

Current Political Conditions and Opportunities

The material conditions are ripe. In fact, we want Ruto to go ahead and do exactly what he's doing faster. The removal of Gachagua helps because he alienates a large population from Mount Kenya that had hoped, that he had brought them nirvana. He has just shown them that he doesn't care, that he has no gratefulness, that he doesn't reciprocate, that he betrays. That's good. That's a good recruitment area for us.

Harnessing Public Disillusionment

Disillusionment, anger is good for us. When Ruto fights his own people. When UDA is divided into two, that's excellent for us. We should make sure that we encourage them to fight more because in fact, if they can kill each other, that would be very good for us. Because then we don't have to do much, we just have to go and take over because they have already killed each other. So let Ruto and Raila fight with Gachagua.

Continual Organization for Change

And we should encourage Gachagua not to surrender, to fight them so that this elite, even if they kill each other, would be good for the Kenyan state. But let us continue relentlessly to organize and mobilize for a bigger day. And hopefully Mashu jade could be the beginning or could be it. But boycott I have a problem with, because really we boycott. What this needs proactive, active action.

Critique of Current Strategies

Talking about IBC, we don't need it. Talking about dissolving parliament. If you dissolve this parliament, Ruto will call fresh elections, only parliamentary elections, and he will have worse people than the current parliament. But the moment Ruto goes, parliament dissolved by itself on its own weight, all the institutions collapse, the system is gone and we can build from down up.

Closing Remarks and Continuing Vigilance

That's what I wanted to say. Thank you very much. Thanks so much, Daktari, for your submission and of course for always staying true to the course and for sharing your experience, your lived experience that really we need to hear and really also take into consideration. That was really a powerful submission and thanks for that as we continue, because CPM was to go actually before dictatorship.

Networking for Future Engagement

But let's also not forget to keep connecting and building a network and we will keep checking on the time. I see we still have a lot of requests coming in. So let's do. Let's really come to the point when we get the mic and not really repeat the points that have already been discussed so that at least we have more people having a chance to speak CPM. Then we go to African and then lady justice.

Invitation to Participate

And six, three minutes each. CPM will give you more as an invited speaker. And then African led justice in six, in that order. CPM, thank you for the opportunity. I don't know if you can hear me loud and clear. Yeah. So just to correct something, I'm an associate, I will not consider myself at the expert level, but I know enough to comment on the issue that is going on.

Negotiation Dynamics in Current Contexts

As I was telling Nelson, PPPs, they are usually more of a negotiation because one end is incapacitated of something and the other one able to provide it, but on terms that it's a quid pro poor, it's not a matter of discrimination. And this deal has been challenged all over by all parties. I think the better part of this week it was challenged by an organization called P three World Council, an affiliation majorly in Asia, but does provide services across the world.

Addressing Contractual Concerns

And they gave their case yesterday, which I think I can try to read it about. First is Adani having exclusive ownership? I did a summary of that 315-page possibility report and you will realize that the only thing that Adani will not have to follow is the security operations and perhaps screening services for diseases and the like. Everything else will be by them. And to make matters worse is they wanted laws to be changed, worked in favor of everything that they are doing.

Legal Violations and Contractual Integrity

So that is the worst red flag. And that by itself is a breach of the constitution. And this is the point. I think you're losing you. Yeah, you're back now. Please proceed. Yeah, I think he's having networking issues again. Sorry. Okay, so try again. Sorry. As I was saying, they were trying to say that is the petition committee that is supposed to handle the matter, but that is incorrect because the petition handles matters of PPP but not in the aspect that it has done right now.

Transparency and Accountability Failures

Because even aside, changing of the laws is the aspect of lack of transparency. And also another problem is the Directorate of EPP last year gave a checklist that a contracting authority is supposed to provide to an independent transaction advisor to do the feasibility. And if you see it, I'll try to post it on the group. Everything there, Adani has failed because they said the first thing must not be charged with tax evasion.

Integrity Issues and the Contract Process

Whatever interpreted issues of fraud and bankruptcy, blacklisted by country, all of those have failed. And I do not understand the kind of games that we are being taken to by the ministry involved because one time they say they are doing contract negotiations, another time they say they are doing legal things. There is no way you can do contract negotiations yet you have not done due diligence. Due diligence is done.

Contractual Process Challenges

And the contract is this stage, which is they are calling the commercial clause. We should see that report. You know, when they are negotiating in terms of submitting, in terms of pre-qualification and the like, now they can hide the details, that is the process. But when it gets to the commercial, you're supposed to know everything. So this is where also the problem is. And according to the law, the deal can either be removed or vacated.

Regulatory Oversight and Systemic Challenges

Well, either KAA cancels it because it has those powers, as the contracting authority or the PPP committee refuses to give an award allowing it to go to the financial cross. Now is when, now the operations are nearly kicking off. But now this is the problem we have. We have an administration that is bullying. It's sort of bullying everyone, whatever it is that they are doing.

Political Bullying and Governance

So PPP, I won't say much about care, because it's a statutory corporation. It can be bullied anyhow. But PP, the electorate is an independent office, just like courts. But I think they are bullied. Even the current one. I'm still trying to find out what is going on because I don't think the person who is there is actually the person calling the shots now. Because now, as you have seen with the regime that is happening, the commonest way, which is actually also provided in the.

Challenges in Governance and Accountability

In the document, is civil unrest. Because you have to realize, when we demonstrate later on, after the project has been signed off, it will be the duty of the government to keep us off the airport. And it will not be an easy thing. And you see, let me tell you, I'm in the construction space mostly as a project manager. Stalling projects are not a good idea at all, particularly public projects.

Economic Implications of Project Delays

You can imagine. You see one problem we have with JKIA, you cannot negotiate it as the day you want. Like what happened with Expressway. Expressway right now, it just offers convenience of time, particularly for the guys from the airport to the extended parts of the city. If right now expressway is removed out of the picture, we just go back to traffic and the like. If you go, if we wake up tomorrow morning, JKIA is not functioning, it will be a blow to the economy.

Historical Context of Infrastructure Development

So we need to. We need to evaluate what exactly is happening. Countries like, what are they called? UK had a proposal to expand the airport since 2003. They came to approve it in 2018. These were just rumors here and there. Innovations 2013 2017, the proposal began coming, I think, around Covid. All of a sudden we had to sign it.

The Need for Accountability in Proposals

We have to add a little pinch of seriousness in terms of what we are doing. And one problem with privately initiated proposals, you can never know what exactly has been agreed. And that is the same case for SGR, the same case for expression. You can never know the full details compared to when something is a solicited tender. So I think at this time, I can stop on that summary as I look forward to the speaker.

Summary and Future Engagement

Thank you so much, CPM Mwangi, for their submission. It's indeed really a very unfortunate event whereby the citizens are protesting, but the government keeps telling them that they're not going to listen to them. It doesn't matter what they say. They have public participation on impeachment of the deputy, but they don't have public participation on the other matters that really, you know, involve the needs of the citizens.

Concerns Over Governance and Accountability

So this is a very unfortunate scenario that's going on, and I hope at one time it's going to come back to bite the people that are doing it. But unfortunately, we have to be more vigilant because the other time in South Africa, we had the Guptas, who are really also allegedly involved in the state capture, and then we had the Kenyan patny, who moved to Zimbabwe, and there was all of a sudden really exposed by Al Jazeera to be at the front line of, you know, the gold smuggling activities that were going on in Zimbabwe, basically just, you know, looting the country.

Impact of Corruption on National Stability

It's a rich country that's currently going down because of corruption. And at that point in the interview that was aired by Al Jazeera, Putney actually openly, you know, disclosed how he helped Moi do some of these. There's things that probably most, some of the people in Kenya never knew how they happened, but he believed that he's going. He's a talking to a friend and trying to justice, you know, disclose how he works.

Importance of Awareness and Vigilance

So a state capture is not something to be taken lightly. We have to keep fighting. We have to really try to find a solution, because by the end of the day, if we don't, we are going to end up with very terrible situations, like one that just transpired today. We had the Kenyan embassy in Thailand sending out a letter that reads like a horror movie of Kenyans going into Thailand and being taken to Burma and enslaved there.

Modern Slavery and State of Affairs

You know, they're running away from their countries and their country, and they're going to be, you know, handed in to modern slavery because of the state of failure that the country is actually failing. So we really need to be vigilant. And you might think it's not happening to you. It doesn't involve you, but it really will involve you at some point.

The Importance of Collective Awareness

And for those who remember the story about the hornbill, where the hornbill kept making noise in the forest and the other animals said, well, the hornbill's noise or pain is not our pain. And then the hornbill was actually eaten up. And then by the end of the day, all these animals who were very quiet ended up being victims of the, you know, the other animal that was preying on them. So by the end of the day, it really remains our problem, and we have to be vigilant all the time.

Introduction and Context

We're still going to give you some. Like, we're still going to be on until at the top of the hour to make sure that people speak, because we still have like, over 50 requests. But he's going to listen to part of the space, the recording that he hasn't listened to when he exists. And so if there are questions that are directed to him, he's going to answer them. So he's just tied up and really has donated another 30 minutes. Let's give him the chance to really do the closing remarks. And like said, he's gonna listen in. Over to you, doctor.

Acknowledgment of Concerns

Thank you, Maj. So I have just one thing that I wanted to say. I know that we are discussing the way forward, and I know that we have discussed this thing before, and I know people think that it's a broken record, but I want to remind everyone, a revolutionary struggle, as I always say, is not a choir. It's not a church choir. It's not a wedding procession. It will not take one day. It will not take two weeks. It will not take one month. It's a process. It can take years. It has taken decades. For the case of Kenya and the case of many other countries. Bangladesh just had their revolution. It doesn't mean that it was a one day thing. No. Yes, they did it daily for three weeks and they succeeded. But they've been doing, they've been trying this for years, for decades. The Sri Lankans, the same one family, dominated power for a very long time before they managed to break the cycle. So we cannot give up.

Continuous Discussion and Mobilization

And nobody should tell us to tell you that talking about the same thing every day is bad. We must talk about it every day. That is the only way we will reach the whole country, enough numbers for us to be able to mobilize. Secondly, nobody should tell you, don't use Twitter, don't use the or X, don't use the Internet, don't use Facebook, don't use WhatsApp, don't use whatever you have to meet people on the ground. No, we are not living in the 1960s. Remember that? In the 1960s, they hardly had radios. They only used pamphlets because that's what they could use to be able to disseminate information. Now we have something more evolutionary than a radio, than a pamphlet. We have social media. It reaches you unfiltered directly and you don't pay extra. If you have a connection, all you need is a Wi Fi or data. Let's use it robustly.

The Power of Social Media in Organizing

They should not tell you, no, you can't organize using x. You can. That's what happened during the Arab Spring. That's what happened in Ukraine. During when they had the Orange revolution. That's what happened in Sri Lanka. That's what happened in Bangladesh. That is what happened. That what happened actually in Kenya in June. Let no one tell you that social media is nothing. Let no one tell you that social media organizing and mobilizing means nothing. This is the only way, the only organic way that we can occupy CBD or even state house in one day without warning. And so I'm going to make a call and it's going to be a fearless, robust call, an equivocal let's occupy Nairobi Mashuja day. Let's spread the word, let's repeat it. Let's make sure everybody hears it.

Call to Action

Let make sure those who are tired of Ruto come onto the street. Let them call us violent, let them call us anarchists. Let them call us anything. Let them abuse us, let them threaten us. Let them try to intimidate. But letheme just make one call. Occupy Nairobi or occupy state house or occupy CBD on Mashuja day. I rest my case. Yes, I will stay around for some questions. And God bless all of you. Thank you so much, General, for the very good discussion and your input. And yes, we appreciate that you're going to stay on still for, some questions. Yes, and that leads us directly to Isaac and Josephine then MMSQ, in that order.

Encouragement for Questions

So do take advantage of the time that he's still there to really just shoot your questions as we try to finalize at the top of the hour. Isaac, thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much, Maj. I really appreciate. And for the discussion. So here's the way forward. I'll be very brief. Number one, we've had, you know, Kenyans are people who are at the moment, you know, they're like desperate. They're desperate for anyone who can actually come and stand in for them. Right. And individuals that we have right now, you know, we've been basing on these individuals. But the problem is Ruto is very smart.

Challenges Faced

We are dealing with someone who worked under the heir of Moi and he knows the divide and rule and even he has infiltrated even in the youth that we've actually been believing in sending money and doing all those kinds of things. And he knows how to divide these people. And I like what one of the previous speaker did mention. If we have like a committee or a trust fund that is actually managed by experts whereby we can actually audit and know how the money is being used, we can actually send this money to a trust fund, you know, and it can be used even for grassroots, you know, civic education and the likes. So giving money to an individual, we just don't know where this money is going. Know whether they're just doing business, you know, they're using our desperate moment to gain money to do business.

Conclusion of the Discussion

And this has been a problem with what is happening. So we're contributing money, just going anywhere. But we don't have accountability for this money. So my way forward is if we can have a committee, if we can have a trust fund that is actually managed by people experts, you know, have accountants. Because the money we are raising, Hanifa, received over 30 million. That's not pocket change money. That's a lot of money. And if this money can be used accountably, I think we can head somewhere and we can have a very strong, solid foundation in which we can actually fight this war. And as Miguna has mentioned, this is not something that should stop. We should keep the conversation going, we should keep the rhetoric going because that's the only way these people will ever listen.