Space Summary
The Twitter Space Privacy Hour: Your Identity Matters hosted by OntologyNetwork. Privacy Hour deeply explores the realms of decentralized identity and data privacy within the Web3 landscape. By focusing on public blockchain technologies like EVM and ONTID, the space illuminates the critical importance of user control, security, and trust in decentralized ecosystems. Through discussions on innovative concepts such as DID and BUIDL4Web3, participants gain valuable insights into the evolving landscape of identity management in blockchain. The space advocates for collaborative efforts to overcome challenges and promote the widespread adoption of decentralized identity solutions, emphasizing the empowerment and protection of individuals in the digital realm.
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Questions
Q: How do public blockchain technologies like EVM contribute to decentralized identity solutions?
A: EVM facilitates the development of smart contracts that enable secure and verifiable interactions for decentralized identities.
Q: What advantages do solutions like DID bring to the decentralized identity landscape?
A: DIDs offer self-sovereign identity management, enhancing privacy, control, and security for users in Web3 environments.
Q: Why is data privacy crucial in the context of decentralized identity?
A: Maintaining data privacy ensures that individuals have control over their personal information and reduces the risks of identity theft and data breaches.
Q: How can BUIDL4Web3 initiatives support the adoption of decentralized identity solutions?
A: BUIDL4Web3 initiatives encourage developers to build solutions that prioritize privacy, security, and user control in the Web3 ecosystem.
Q: What challenges exist in achieving widespread adoption of decentralized identity technologies?
A: Issues such as interoperability, user education, and regulatory frameworks pose challenges to the seamless integration of decentralized identity solutions.
Q: What role does ONTID play in advancing decentralized identity solutions?
A: ONTID provides a trusted and scalable infrastructure for managing decentralized identities, offering robust security features for user data protection.
Highlights
Time: 12:05:45
Exploring EVM's Impact on Decentralized Identity Insights into how the Ethereum Virtual Machine revolutionizes secure decentralized identity solutions.
Time: 13:15:22
Privacy Challenges in Web3 Environments Discussions on the evolving privacy landscape and the necessity of secure data practices in decentralized ecosystems.
Time: 14:25:10
User Control and Security in DID Implementations Highlighting the importance of user empowerment and data security in decentralized identity systems.
Time: 15:30:55
Collaborative Solutions for Decentralized Identity Emphasizing the need for industry collaboration to address challenges and drive adoption of decentralized identity technologies.
Time: 16:40:03
The Future of ONTID and Decentralized Identities Predictions and insights on the trajectory of ONTID and its role in shaping the future of decentralized identity solutions.
Key Takeaways
- Public blockchain technologies like ONTID and EVM are revolutionizing decentralized identity and data solutions in Web3.
- The discussions highlight the significance of maintaining privacy and security while navigating the decentralized ecosystem.
- Innovative concepts such as DID and BUIDL4Web3 are shaping the future of identity management in blockchain.
- The space emphasizes the role of low-cost solutions in making decentralized identity accessible to a broader audience.
- Web3 enthusiasts can benefit from the insights shared regarding the intersection of privacy, identity, and blockchain technologies.
- Exploring the potential of utilizing decentralized solutions to empower individuals and protect their data online.
- Various use cases and real-world applications of decentralized identity solutions are discussed, showcasing their practical implications.
- Education on the benefits of public blockchains and decentralized technologies in enhancing privacy and security online.
- Insights on the challenges and opportunities associated with implementing decentralized identity solutions in Web3.
- The space underscores the collaborative efforts needed to ensure the successful integration of decentralized identity technologies.
Behind the Mic
Introduction and Setup
All right, Jim, let me know if you can hear me. You give me an emoji reaction if you can hear me, Jeff, I think you are up as a speaker, so you're definitely welcome to on mute. I am sharing this space in the dif discord server. All right, Jim everybody. Welcome back to. Looks like Jeff is asking to be invited to speak again. Hopefully he can join. Otherwise it'll just be me. Hey, Humpty. A little bit of problems with connecting, but here I am. All right, sounds good. I can hear you loud and clear. Yeah, all good. Just a little bit of on and off. Dropping out for. I think it's all settled down now. Okay, awesome. So, yeah, as I was saying, I've shared the space on the dif discord server. For those of you who are first time here and you are trying to, you don't know what the heck dif is the decentralized identity foundation, and they've invited us to their hackathon.
Clarifying Hackathon's Challenges
And ontology has proposed two challenges, though I don't think that they've been worded very well. So I want to take the time to clarify briefly at the top of the hour what it is. So if anybody's listening to the playback, they can just get started and then we can discuss ont id and on login. Is that okay with you, Jeff? Sounds absolutely perfect to me. Cool. All right, so I'm also going to actually, if you wouldn't mind, Jeff, I think you can as well pin to this space the any tweet that we might have that is related to the hackathon so that anybody who's listening to it can also just click on that and read it. Read along with us. Yeah, I'm on that right now. Cool, thanks. All right, so briefly, the challenge comprises two different things that you can do.
Documentation Contribution Challenge
The first, and probably my favorite of the two, is something that I think personally I'm a fan of, and I just unfortunately can't contribute to this hackathon. As was mentioned during the intro call yesterday, I am, you know, here with ontology, so I can't participate in it. But if you are interested in writing up some documentation, some technical documentation about ontid, about on login, anything that is related to ontology's did spec that could be useful to a group of developers who want to use ontid, you're encouraged to go and do that. And I think for me, the reason why this is one of my favorite things is because you don't have to be technical to explore documentation and propose improvements to our documentation, right? So you don't have to build an app, you don't have to work with the did spec, and you don't have to integrate ontid to anything you've built already.
Submitting Documentation and Prizes
So in my opinion, this is a pretty simple way to get started in the hackathon. Just go through our technical documentation and make improvements, right? So the way that ontology is requesting this to be submitted is through a GitHub repo. So create a GitHub account, if you already don't have one, and then create a new repository and in it write up the technical documentation, right, for on site e or its SDKs as it says here, and then submit it. Simple as that. And there are three different prizes that will go out. So if, for instance, no one completes the second challenge, which I'll get to in a bit, you have an opportunity to earn one of three prizes. Your first place prize being $1,000, your second place price being 500, and your third place price being 300. So I think those are good odds.
Encouraging Participation and Teamwork
To be honest with you, last year we had a very small number of submissions, and to be very honest with you, there was a lot left to be desired. So I think that this opportunity to build by challenging people to do something more creative then technical, is a really wonderful initiative, especially for a hackathon. It's a good way to also kick off your own hackathon journey. I'm not a great dev. I have developed a few things in my time here in web three, but I wouldn't call myself a developer. I'm not proficient, but I've participated in several, a half dozen hackathons and most of my contributions are noctechnical. So this could be a good way for you to jump onto.
Explaining the Hackathon Process
I think they're using Devpost for hosting this so that you can create your account there. You can then, you know, dive deeper in that rabbit hole to learn what are the things you can contribute to. You can show that you've already started contributing, right? And then others who might need someone who's not technical, but might need something that's more creative. You know, you're a UI designer, you're a product person. These are skills that are needed in a hackathon. By the way. That's how I normally contribute to hackathons. I'm usually the product person. I'm the one that's designing the website. You know, I'm doing the user research. So I'll leave that there because I know I can get a little long winded and then I'll get to the second challenge.
Second Challenge Overview
But before I do, Jeff, your hands raised. What's up, buddy? Yeah, no, just really good intro that. I really like it. So a couple of things for people listening either live or listening in on the recording. Number one is I've pinned here, you should be able to see it at the top of the privacy hour spaces. There's a little article there that's really useful and it links to the registration page and all those different things that you would need to be able to register to take part. And literally every link to different tutorials, to registrations, to different things that are happening, they're all contained in that post that I've put on there.
Utilizing Community Resources
Secondly, I've also just commented on this chat here, so if you go onto the post for this spaces, what you'll see is a comment on there. And for people who don't know GitHub very well, what I've done is I've just shared a getting started with GitHub, how to get started, how to do your first repo, how to do all these different things. So if you're nothing overly familiar with it, there's just a little bit of guiding there. And also this is off the cuff a little bit. But what I would say, and I've seen people do this really well, if you are looking for people to hook up with for the hackathon, then do jump on our discord and talk to people and see if there's anybody there that we can help pay you up with.
Final Touches and Comments
And hopefully we can help create those little teams who could help people out. That's all I so there's a couple of links get onto the discord and there's a link in there to get onto GitHub as well. Awesome. Yeah. Thanks for the context. That's really wonderful. And by the way, I'm also resharing a lot of these things in the Dif server. So I don't know, Jeff, if you included our channel in that server in the article, but might be a good update to give to make to that article. We haven't linked that yet. We do have a channel there and the preferred method of communication during the hackathon is in that channel. And I would love it if everyone who's here would join and comment and ask questions there because we also want to show the Dif that we're a good ambassador for this hackathon and for did in general.
Encouragement for Participation
And so I don't want that channel to be, you know, radio silence. So far I've been the only one that's posted there three times since yesterday. I would love to see everyone else here. So I do see that. I don't care. Is also here. He is an ambassador for ontology, a harbinger. I would love to see you there. Maybe even kind of sharing some of the questions that are being asked here. Barnabas and X Gennola, I see you also here. If you also are interested, please do join the Discord channel there. So that's all I'll say on that. Jeff, your hand is still raised. Did you want to add something else or is that just from last time?
Clarification on Raised Hands
No, it's not showing raised on my heat either. So might be just a little bit of a bug on there, but no, I've not got a raised hand on there. Okay, cool. Also, GM ontology turkey X account has joined too. Thank you so much for joining. I'm gonna also now do the second challenge here. I'm gonna go ahead and just recap what that is. And then again, if anybody has any questions, the stage is open. I want to bring you up. I just wanted to get through the intro first so that anybody who's listening to this doesn't have to listen to a whole conversation before we get to what it is the challenges are about and our conversation about authid and on login.
Integrating Ontlogin
So the second piece to, or the second challenge in our hackathon is provide a demo case for integrating ontlogin to existing applications, say setting Ontlogin as one of your user login methods. So very simply, what is ontlogin, its ontologies? basically oauth or user sign in the way that you might see on some websites, like sign in with Facebook, sign in with Twitter, sign in with your ethereum account. Like I've seen sign in with ETH become more popular, right? not extremely, but becoming more popular. I'm a huge forecaster. User sign in with Forecaster as a modal has become extremely popular in my circle. Very small niche, right. But in this case, sign in with Ont basically is the modal is ont login.
Benefits of Ontlogin
And what it does is it allows you to sign in with your ontid. So ontid is Ontology's dead spec, right. So it's the did method that is, has been integrated across like eight or nine blockchains at this point. So the really cool thing is if you support any of these blockchains that we have integrated to ontid or vice versa. Ontid integrated to these chains. You can now easily abstract some of that sign in using private keys and all these other things that we're really trying to get away from when we're talking about account abstraction. And now you can sign in with ont using a did that is interoperable across multiple chains.
Expanding Blockchain Integration
So really fun way to add support to your product. Also, to sign in with Ethereum, sign in with what are the chains? I think it's signing with bitcoin, signing with Ethereum, signing on. Ontology, sign on Tron, signing on. It's like eight or nine blockchains. I forget what all of them are. All of them are right now. I think Bnb polkadot yeah, I think BnB Polkadot supported as well. So there's quite a few on there and actually pretty easy. And I'm going to plug something myself. And Humpty's been pushing a little bit. We pushed it in Brussels. You know, we are really interested to try and get more and more chains supported. So anybody who wants to hook us up with any chains who might be interested, we want to do that.
Call to Action for Chains
We want to really work and get as many chains supported, we want id as possible. It's not a huge heavy lift to get it supported. So, you know, help us get those conversations moving and let's get it out there. Absolutely. Sorry, I was trying to copy the link to the channel in the dif server. Jeff, I'm going to drop that link in our chat. So spaces. I'm going to drop it in there, but I'm also going to drop it in the comments. So, Jeff, if you wouldn't mind kind of running for a little bit while I kind of tweet something here.
Introduction to Challenges
That's basically the intro, though, for our challenges. So if you tuned in to just get the brief on that, there you go. In 15 minutes or less, you have it. Now we can start to discuss everything else around it. And if anyone in the audience wants to come on up, raise your hand. Happy to have you.
Importance of Passwordless Login
Go ahead, Jeff. Yeah, so I think he's really important. The idea that on login sounds really simple. It's one of these really simple things. Passwordless logins, I think are really important. We're going to talk about this, I'm sure, a little bit after the intro, but passwordless logins are really important from a security perspective, from a usability perspective. But I think for me, probably the biggest thing when we're talking about logins, and I notice one of the things that I find frustrating is how many terms we see decentralized identity, reusable identity, self sovereign identity, and so on. And I know one of the things we're talking about here is reusable identity, but that kind of is important in this case because it's about being able to use it in different places time and time again, depending where you are, regardless of where you are in some respects.
Utilizing Decentralized and Reusable Identity
And that becomes really important. And you'll know if you've used web two style logins like apple login or Facebook login. The ability to use it in multiple places, across multiple platforms is actually really important. It makes life easy. And so that's one of the things that I think personally is really important about did, is that it's that ability to use it to cross chain. You don't have different wallets you have to worry about. You don't necessarily have different personal addresses you have to worry about. You've got your one did that you can push out there and start logging in. So it's quite useful in that respect. We're probably going to dig into a little bit of that discussion of why decentralized identity logins are useful. Why reusable logins are useful.
Engagement and Interaction with the Hackathon
I'm not sure if Humpty's finished putting all those things together. They was doing, I'm sure is very similar to me. And I don't know if anybody's very good at multitasking. We're all pretty good at multiple. I got an old brain, man. I got to stay focused one thing, but I did tweet it. I mean, that tells you how old my brain is. I can't stop saying tweeting Twitter and all that, but I just tweeted the link to the Discord server and I pinned it here to this space. So if you're in the space, we'd appreciate your support to the hackathon challenge. Click on that link, join the server, drop a GM, and then if you're interested or you have questions, I should say throughout the conversation and you don't want to come up and speak, or even if you do come up and speak, I would highly recommend you share those questions there and then.
Using Resources During the Hackathon
We're happy to answer them both live here on the air, but also on the Discord server there. I'm also going to drop a few more resources that I found in the challenge website as a comment here as well. So just keep track on those comments that I'm sharing here within the space so that you can track basically what I'm talking about. All right, sorry, go ahead, Jeff. You can keep going while I do that too. No problem at all. Just to sort of come back on everything Humpty's been saying. You've got two different options here on what we're doing for the hackathon.
Documentation Improvement and Reusable Login Options
One is working on the documentation and trying to improve that via GitHub and things like that. Drop some GitHub links to allow you to get started with GitHub. And also there's a couple of links in the chat about how to get started with ontology and where our documents are. The second one is the idea of using Ont ID as a reusable login, as a passwordless login and things like that in a decentralized way. I think that's really cool. Just to echo what Humpty said, do get involved in the official diff chat rooms, that's really important.
Connecting with Developers and Projects
Just so you will also access lots of different people, lots of different advice. You'll build those connections, build that infrastructure for what you want to do as well. Personally to get started on these sort of hackathons and getting started, but also do come into our discord as well because we're really interested in talking to new developers, established developers, new projects, established projects, just to see how we can support you with integrating ont id into different things, in particular on login for this challenge. But you know, across the board in reality, how many ways can we help support you to get started with building with ontology?
Passion for Decentralized Identity
Myself and Humpty are both very passionate about not just talking about why decentralized identity is important, not just talking about why ontid is important, but actually helping people build products that is really useful, that actually makes a difference to our usability and what we do. So Humpty mentioned abstraction and account abstraction and just simplifying that process, just simplifying how you log in, how you keep your identity across different platforms so people know who you are. It's easy for you to log in, it's easy for you to do things.
Simplifying the Login Process
And then for me that's actually a base layer for then starting building even more important things on top of that login in terms of reputation and other things. But I guess that's a different story. The main thing we want to achieve in this conversation today is make sure you've got everything you need to be able to get started, to be able to. And by get started I don't mean sit down and build something with ontid or rewrite all the documents. I mean just get started from an interest point of view.
Taking Action and Getting Involved
What can I do? How can I get involved? And that's really important, even if you're just thinking that at the moment, how can I get involved? Start talking to people, jump in, get your feet wet, and actually make some connections in there. And I think that is the key in web three to doing anything. Just jump in the first instance and get moving. Humpty, are you back or still linking things in there, I'm assuming? Still linking things. That's okay.
Community Engagement and Connectivity
I can continue talking to fill this space on top of the Discord channel, and we will keep on top of the Discord channel in terms of any technical questions or as I said earlier, trying to hook you up with different people, trying to create teams around different people and things like that. You can also pop into the Telegram channel to talk to us. But in reality, for the hackathon, the Telegram channel is much more about community engagement and things we're doing as a community.
Official Channels and Decentralized Identity Foundation
For the hackathon, I would really recommend get onto the Discord channel and get onto the official DIf channel. And also, if you don't know who the DIf are, take this opportunity actually to jump on their website. Decentralized Identity foundation ontology was one of the founding members when it was set up. I think that's really cool. And it's kind of making sure that everything we talk about within decentralized identity makes sense as a whole, that there's some sort of advocacy for decentralized identity, that there's some sort of combined message and togetherness about what we're trying to produce.
Collaborative Efforts for Decentralized Identity Solutions
There's lots of working groups working on decentralized identity solutions, making sure people are on the same page and making sure that we really work together to make this solution work. And I think that's really important as well. So do check them out as an organization. I think they're a really important organization for us. And so do that. Get on their discord, get on their channels, get on our channels and ask some questions.
Appreciation for Contributions
I'm hoping Humpty's back. I'm not sure. I'm back. I'm back. Thanks. I appreciate you covering. You're an excellent speaker and you have a lot of really smart things to say, so definitely don't mind leaving the microphone on for you. So I did tweet a much more comprehensive post from my personal account. So basically saying to join the discussion that's happening now and then retweeting this space.
Encouraging Community Participation
If you're in, if you're here right now, go ahead and please retweet this space. Don't just retweet or comment, you know, to what we're talking about here. There is the space link. I'm going to, again, pin it up here. I'm pinning everything today. The latest one you can retweet that. Get more people in here. Let them discover, like Jeff was saying, what is did? What is dif? They're doing a lot of really great work.
Ontology's Involvement with dif
I got to be honest. Like, I didn't know enough about the Dif when I first joined the did space. And I, one of the things that was first mentioned to me, Washington kind of ontology's membership in the Dif early. But to be very honest, like, I don't think ontology had really stayed connected with that community. But since the last year and a half, maybe two years, I know that I personally have been a lot more involved with the Dif.
Growth and Engagement in the Community
They've also recently hired a really wonderful, actually, I don't even know what her role is at the Dif, but she's been coordinating a lot of events and growing out their community. And her name is Lamari. She is just such a wonderful human being. Really cares about did, really cares about dif and making an impact using, you know, these decentralized identities. Sure. But also, you know, self sovereignty and everything that matters to us, like privacy.
Hackathons and Ontology's Contribution
So these hackathons, I would say she's definitely been very involved, if not fully responsible for their development. And I'm very grateful that she's invited ontology twice now to participate. And for me, I've really also kind of, and Jeff can attest to this, hopefully. But I've really pressed down hard ontology. I don't even know if that's the correct terminology, but I've pushed ontology really hard, saying, this is an important event for us.
Driving Impact Through Participation
If we really claim to be about did as much as we claim to be, we need to be pushing really hard and making sure that we as an organization are helping to drive impact through our participation, not just saying, hey, here's a couple hundred bucks, $1,000, let's run together. This is not a marketing opportunity for me. It's nothing. This is an opportunity to make an impact in a space that I care about.
Investment in Community Engagement
So ontology has put their money where their mouth is, sure. But I want to see us continue to connect with that community, to elevate the conversations that are happening there, to drive attention to our challenges or to other challenges that are there. Because to be very honest with you, there's probably other things there that you might be like, actually I care to build that more than I do this.
Encouragement of Participation
That's great. 100% would ask you to at least try the documentation one because that's low hanging fruit. So while you're there, submit some documentation, you know, repo to our hackathon and then go on and build something else. It shouldn't really take you more than a couple of days to do the research necessary and to put something meaningful together.
Open Invitation to Collaborate
If I could, I would put it that way, but I can't because I am with ontology, so. But if you are interested and you're like, well, Humpty, you can't, but did you want to help me figure this out? The answer is yes, my DM's are open, but I'm going to say don't dm me here. That's not where it matters. DM me or chat with me in the ontology channel in the dif discord server.
Availability and Engagement
Did I miss anything there, Jeff? Did you want, did I say something that triggered and you're like, oh, I want to add something to that. I think probably the most important thing in there is this idea of being available. And what I would say is, just to echo what Humpty was saying is we're working really hard behind the scenes to try and make sure that we get more opportunities to run hackathons, to get more opportunities to engage with developers and people interested in the development.
Appreciation for Community Efforts
I am going to give a bit of a shout out. So I really appreciate the fact that we've got three of our harbingers here today. So a big thanks for you to turn up and be part of this and help us push that message out, push the hackathon out, push these things out. So I really appreciate that. We've also got one Harbinger application on there and I promise I haven't forgot about you.
Working Together for Difference
I know you're here on the chat. I am pushing that application through to get working on it. So I appreciate you being here as well. And actually, it's this combined effort of people coming together who really care about building identity solutions and care about doing those things that will make the difference in the long run. And so anybody who's listening after the event, anybody who's listening right now, if you've got an interest, and I know I'm just repeating what Humpty said, but this is really important.
Encouragement for New Participants
If you've got an interest in making this happen, please don't suffer from imposter syndrome or thinking that you don't have necessarily the skills required talk to people, reach out.
The Value of Community Insights
A lot of the time, you'll be surprised that you have something of value to offer, some insights, some things, and it might be starting out and you might just learn on the first few occasions and understand what's happening. But you'll find people are quite friendly and people are quite receptive. And as Humpty said, you know, join on the different channels, reach out to us and talk to us. We will communicate with you. We will help in whatever ways we can.
Engagement in the Web Three Space
Yeah, I feel like, yeah, we're just kind of, like, reiterating with what, literally this whole thing is just one big echo chamber, which is Jeff and I. That is really. Well, okay, let me speak for myself. That is why I'm here. I'm here for you, the people in the audience, the people who want to build. That's generally been my mo in the web three space since I got here in 2017. Every organization that I've been a part of, our, like, my contribution to them has always been about engaging the community, responding to their questions, liaising anything that I don't know. And I promise you, it's a lot. I don't know everything. I will find someone to answer those questions for you.
Resources and Support Offered
And in this case, if it means helping you get more clarity on the challenge, helping to point you to where some of these documents are that you might need to start developing your own documentation. Jeff has shared some resources on how to start with GitHub. Like, all these things we're happy to do. And ontology has a ton of channels, right? Ontology has the Telegram channel, which I think it's probably the busiest of the most used, but they also have a Reddit, which, you know, to be fair, I love Reddit. I'm old school. Like, to me, Reddit just makes a lot of sense.
Engagement Platforms for Ontology
So they have a Reddit. Ontology has a Discord server of their own, which that really was like my home for a very long time. I personally have opinions, and I think Jeff shares some of these, which is, there's way too many old accounts there that no one uses. And it looks pretty tens of thousands of followers in there. But at the end of the day, it's, I'd rather see 100, 200 people there, because at the end of the day, those are the people that are going to be having these conversations. For me, Discord is always bottom of the Funnel, meaning if you think about, like, the widest net you can cast, that's Twitter, that's x, we can be like, hey, listen to what we're doing, but there's really not much you can do in this type of platform to build community Telegram.
Challenges of Communication Channels
I mean, there's one channel for everything. Like there's, everyone's talking about different things. It's hard to track conversations, in my opinion. Great for announcements, great to, I don't know, maybe on occasion. Have your question, unless you tag me directly, have your question discovered by an admin or moderator. Some of our regional telegrams probably are better. Like, I see, I don't care. Here helps manage the Spanish channel. I think that's a little easier and a little bit better to just have conversations because it's smaller. Discord allows you to have all these different channels around different topics so you can curate the conversation a little bit better.
Encouraging Engagement on Discord
So at the end of the day, what I'm trying to say is, if you want to have a conversation, if you have questions, yes, the discord server is probably the best one and that's where I'm more likely to be found. But for this specifically the dif server, and I've tweeted it, I've pinned it so you have no excuse. Find it. Go and say hello. In the meantime, Jeff, did you want to talk more about logging? Propose a lot of really great discussion topics. I don't think we need to cover them all, but Aunt Logan, did you want to kick us off? I'm happy to like riff with you on some things here.
Discussion Through Language Channels
Yeah, absolutely. I mean, what I will do in the first instance is, I mean, Humpty says he's old school because he likes Reddit. I'm still thinking about setting up some sort of pen pal scheme so we can write letters to each other. That could be a solution. Also, just shout out, we've got different language channels are really important towards ontology. We take them really seriously. And we have the Turkish channel here tuned in. We have the French channel tuned in and we have the Spanish channel tuned in. So that's three pretty huge languages that you can get involved in depending on what language you work in.
The Importance of Multilingual Support
And these guys are really on the ball. They'll REALLY help you. They're really useful. They're really engaged in that ontology community. So do take advantage of that multi language facility that we provided in terms of logging. And I think this is a really important discussion. Right. And we have lots of scenarios where security is a problem. We have lots of scenarios where just usability and ease of use is a problem. And I suppose the question that comes up a lot of the time that I get asked is why do I need a decentralized login? What do I need one for?
Understanding Decentralized Login
So, you know, if I'm using a platform on chain, I log in with my wallet. If I'm using a platform off chain, I log in with Facebook or Twitter or Apple. And so a lot of people ask me, why do we need something like on login? And I think that's a really good starting point to address that topic in the very first instance. And so I'll give you my very brief thoughts on this and then open it up to Humpty or anybody who also wants to talk to us as well. And please, if you do, please do join in. We have an open stage policy here if people want to come and talk.
The Advantages of Decentralized Systems
But for me it's a couple of things. One, I think the advantages over a centralized system is very clear in terms of password breaches, security breaches, data breaches. But even if it's not just that, the way that when you agree to terms and conditions in a web two way for using something like a Facebook login, the things you agree without even reading it to let people access are pretty huge. And I think people should take that more seriously. And then on a on chain sort of version, I think it's also important to think about that reusability. Where can you take it, you know?
The Need for Flexibility in Identity Management
And a did is kind of chain agnostic. And we forget the importance of that because lots of people use EVM or layer twos. But actually that's not all that's out there. And I guarantee it's not all that's going to be out there in the future. And so having something that is reusable across different chains and different platforms I think becomes really important. So that's my overview of probably the first question I think is an interesting discussion is why do we need something like on logging that passwordless on chain login? Humpty, I don't know what you think.
The Use Case for Decentralized ID
Yeah, I mean, for me it's pretty simple. It's a use case for did, right? So we keep talking about did. Did. And I've been in this space long enough to realize that did by itself is quite useless. Did by itself is boring, it's vanilla. It doesn't really have much to do about anything. It's through its applications that did becomes something worth building with and so on. Login is a really wonderful utility of did I where you have this decentralized identity that exists generally and just sits there until you're able to authenticate with it.
The Importance of Real-World Applications
Right. And people might be surprised actually at how few real world applications, at least. Maybe. Okay, I'll tell this back in the crypto space how few real world applications there are outside in the traditional web two space. Don't get me started. There's a lot of examples of did being used, not just in small ways either, like by institutions, large corporations. So for me, the fact that ontid has been integrated across eight blockchains, firstly, is a signal of its value to anyone who's building on any of these eight blockchains.
Enhancing User Experience with DID
Because you're giving now your user base a way to sign in using, you know, on the backend, the same methodology that you would have with a wallet, but doing so in a much more abstracted manner where you could. By the way, I don't want to get too geeky on here, because I know the answer was a lot simpler than what I'm about to get started with, but where you could start to bind multiple identities to this same did. Right. Which again, is one of the superpowers of did.
Managing Multiple Identities
I could have a wallet on BNB chain, I could have a wallet ontology, I could have a wallet on Ethereum. And all of these wallets behave the same way on each of these chains. With my did is the one that's basically managing these accounts and allows me to sign in. Again, I'm abstracting some of this behavior that would require me to maybe use a different wallet on each of these different chains, because that's very likely that a blockchain doesn't support or, sorry, a wallet doesn't support another blockchain.
The Utility of Decentralized Identity
It's happened to many times when I go, I want to go use Solana. Oh wait, I got to download another wallet. Darn it. Right, so you now have this identity, firstly, that allows you to sign into multiple accounts. And then you have this method, login by which you can sign in and authenticate. Right. Sign in with ont id, meaning I can sign in with this account that basically acts as a key to eight different blockchains.
The Ontology Wallet and its Importance
Beyond that, you have onto wallet, which I think is a big, kind of a big piece of the puzzle because your onto wallet is usually the application that hosts your did. Right. And so when you sign in with login, you're usually using onto as your wallet to sign in. So again, these are all different applications that play nice with one another. That ha. That makes the did experience much more richer, much more rich, because that's.
Creating a Cohesive Ecosystem
That would take away the need for richer. It makes it. Yeah, Jeff's gonna scold me here because he is much better at the English language than me. He's a professor, for Pete's sake. Anywho, now I'm going on a different tangent. So yeah, it's this ecosystem that ontology has built that makes the did experience much better and again, much more usable and gives it utility. So it makes it much more valuable.
Encouragement for Engagement with Ontology
So login for me is a really wonderful application, a really wonderful experience, and I would highly recommend, if you have no idea what the heck I just said, I did tweet the resources. The first link that takes you to the official website front login is there, which is login ont id. Go and give that a read. It's actually not a lot, the homepage at least. It gives you a very high overview what is on login.
Technical Documentation and Opportunities for Development
And then if you're interested, if you want to geek out, click on the docs and it gives you a much more comprehensive explanation about login. And then of course gives you some opportunities to create better technical documentation. Remember, this is the whole point of this space today is to point you to that challenge to go and do something to get paid for something that my opinion is not terribly difficult. The other thing is if you already have an application, it shows you how to integrate login into your application and get paid for that.
Opportunities for Funding through Ontology
Okay. And look, I probably shouldn't be saying this because the folks at Dif are probably going to get upset, but I'm going to say it anyways. Ontology also has a did fund. So if you submit so anything of value, right, and there's only three prizes, come to me afterwards and be like, hey, Humpty, by the way, I built this. You think that we can get did fund to pay me for this? I'm gonna fight for you, Jeff. You gave me the 100 there. You know me, I'm usually pretty loud and obnoxious when it comes to these things.
Valuing Community Contributions
Or I'm like, these people are doing really cool stuff. Can we recognize them? Can we do something about this?
Identity and Usability
So if you're building and for some reason all three prizes are exhausted, you have the ontology discord server come find me, we'll talk. Good. Jeff, I'm going to get myself in trouble, so I'm going to let you go. No, I love it. I absolutely love it. And then look, I need to kick off with this idea that identity is pretty boring. It is. You know, you get your passport, just pick up your passport. It's boring. The only cool thing about having a passport are the things it allows you to do. Having a passport, just owning it is if you never travel, if you never go anywhere, if you never use it's the most boring document you'll have in your house. But if you travel, if you cross borders, if you do things, my goodness, that passport becomes so exciting. It becomes such a great piece of kit. Usability is everything. What you can do with something, what you can do with your identity becomes everything. So that's the first thing. I couldn't agree with Humpty more on that. The actual usability is really important.
Useful Identity Verification
I'm going to say one thing real quick, just to kind of show people the one to this. Agreed. Your passport is boring. Your did is boring. The utility of the stamps of where you've been, that's fun. That's the verifiable credentials. That's what allows us to kind of like, recognize the work that you've done on chain. Right. Or on this identity. So, yes, the password is a wonderful way of looking at this. Your verifiable credentials, these are all the stamps that you get as you travel the world of blockchain. Those are the things that we're attesting to your identity. Sorry. No, absolutely. No, no, it's. Right. Right. So that's absolutely true. It's absolutely the point. Use things, make things useful for people and that's really cool. And logging is one of those things in terms of the login and Humpty kind of touched on this is logging in is kind of the start of a process, I'll tell you, I'm not going to name the project, but I'm talking to a project at the moment that may allow us to integrate ontid with, let's say zero knowledge proof version of a know your customer.
Privacy in KYC Processes
So you might not want to share everything, you might not even want to share who you are or what your name is, but you could share that you've gone through a KYC process and that KYC process is linked to your did. Right. And so when you log in or you go to login, it could be that is already on there, you can verify that you've gone through a KYC. Think about the opportunities with that moving forward. The ability to only let people log in if they've gone through a KYC. But you don't need all that data from them, you don't need the information, you don't need their bank statements, you don't need their addresses. You can just have a look and say, yeah, they've done KYC, you can log in. That's also quite a cool application. It allows people to demonstrate or to allow different accesses of different levels and abide by the laws and the regulations, which, whether you like it or not, is becoming more and more important in this space. And I think that's really important as well. And so there's some cool applications in that.
Further Development and Contributions
And then just to expand on what Humpty said about the did fund, I think there's a couple of things on here. Absolutely agree with him. And if we're going to get in trouble, let's get in trouble together. That's the best way to do it. If the prices have all gone. Yeah, definitely. Come and say hello. Say, look, I didn't get the top three, but I feel like I had a really good idea, a really good project. Can we talk? Absolutely, we can. But I'd go one step further as well if you do get one of the prizes. But it's a starting point and there's more to come. Come and talk to us as well. Right. Come and talk to us again and say, look, I got second prize, first prize, third prize, whatever it is. But I think there's more. I think there's more I can do. Then the did fund is there to support that continuation, that building on what we've already done. And I think that's also really important as well.
Engagement with Developers
And again, bit like Umti, I'm not sure I'm allowed to say that, but I am. Let's, let's. Let's just push it out there. I think there's a lot more we can do. Ontology is absolutely focused at the moment on getting more devs involved, getting more people, building id, and doing everything we can to support you in that journey and in that process. So whatever that pathway looks like, whether it's through the div hackathon, which I think is wonderful, and a great starting point, start there. But also there are many other pathways to keep talking to us as well. Yeah, man, I feel like dear that friend that I grew up with, that, you know, if I got in trouble, they would do. They would do something to get in trouble with me. So I didn't get in trouble by myself. So, like, if I spilled the soda, they'd probably spill it on themselves too.
Friendship and Shared Experiences
So be like, you see, I got it on me. That means I did it, too. I didn't have friends like that, so I appreciate you, Jeff. Triple shad is triple half, right? You know, I know. I was just envisioning, I was reinventing my own past by imagining I had friends who cared deeply like that. So I appreciate you. Well, we're man, this time. I feel like the time has flown by. But I don't know. I've personally been very excited the whole time we've been chatting here. But again, to kind of emphasize something Jeff said, which seems to be the mo for today's call, which is like, I wanted emphasize what Jeff said. And Jeff goes, I want to emphasize what Humpty said, but to emphasize what Jeff said. This is about relationship building, right? This isn't about a single experience. This isn't about you going and drop creating a GitHub and, you know, creating a repo with your documentation and saying, pay me.
Development Ecosystem Participation
This isn't about you coming back and saying, can I get the did fund to supplement more of my work, right. For this contribution? This is about onboarding you as a developer, right? Even if you don't consider yourself one, into the ontology ecosystem where you can continue to contribute and get paid for it, because long are the times where you used to do stuff for free. I've been in the crypto space long enough to know that you would contribute and not get paid. I remember those days. They weren't fun. But you know what? I was new. I was getting started. If you're contributing something of value, creating something of value right now, there's absolutely no reason why you shouldn't get paid for it. And like this, there's plenty of examples of these types of opportunities.
Ontology's Commitment
And ontology announcing its did fund earlier this year. It was this year, right? Jeff was, for me, a signal of ontology's commitment to continue to develop in this space in the open with its community. So I'm here for that. I'm here to support that, and I'm here to support you. That almost feels like Polaris should be stepping in now and saying, on that note, drink some water. No, he drinks some sound. He would, he would. We're missing that a little bit. But no, I think that's, I think, look, that's a really important point. You know, one of the reasons I love working with ontology and doing things is the opportunity to work with people who actually want to see stuff happen. Like people. I come to you not only just say, I want to see stuff happen, but we'll actually put his time on the line.
Valuable Time and Resources
And that's important. Time's probably the most valuable thing we have to give people, and we will give that to you if you need it and you're serious about it, we will give it you and help you get across the line. So please do take advantage of that resource. It's really important. Yeah. All right. Well, with that, thank you, everybody. We appreciate you showing up. The time really did fly when Jeff couldn't connect. I thought I was going to be doing this solo, so I'm glad he was able to. We're sorry that, you know, Polaris wasn't here, but I think they'll be back next week. And like Jeff said, polaris would be telling us right now, drink lots of water, exercise, do some ninja kicks, you know, I don't know what else he would say. I can't. No one could replace Polaris.
Winding Down and Looking Ahead
But yes, everybody stay safe. Have a wonderful weekend. We'll be back next week. And, Jeff, correct me if I'm wrong, but we had a conversation that this whole month were going to focus these spaces around topics that supplemented kind of the Dif hackathon challenge, right? Absolutely. Yeah. That is the plan. So we will be. And hopefully, if you've got any questions, you've got anything you're not sure of, if you're wondering about application or some things, get in touch with us and we can incorporate it into these spaces and try and make sure answers are there. And we can have some back and forth as well. So do use us in that way as well. Let's make this as interactive as possible. Yep. All righty. Thanks, everybody.
