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The Twitter Space NAIROBI TOURISM POLICY || PUBLIC PARTICIPATION hosted by Mizani254. Delve into the world of Nairobi’s tourism policy and the significance of public participation with Mizani254 as the platform for enriching discussions. From stakeholder collaboration to policy transparency, learn how community engagement and educational tools like Mizani254 influence policy-making processes. Explore the benefits of inclusive forums and the role of public feedback in shaping tourism initiatives for sustainable development. Discover the power of open communication channels and the impact of community involvement on democratic governance.
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Questions
Q: Why is public participation crucial in Nairobi’s tourism policy?
A: Engaging the community ensures policies align with local needs, fostering sustainable development and cultural preservation.
Q: How does Mizani254 contribute to policy discussions?
A: By facilitating dialogues and providing educational content, Mizani254 empowers citizens to participate in decision-making processes.
Q: What role does transparency play in effective policy implementation?
A: Transparent processes build trust, encourage accountability, and enhance the legitimacy of tourism regulations.
Q: Why is stakeholder collaboration important in shaping tourism policies?
A: Collaboration brings diverse expertise to the table, leading to well-rounded and inclusive policy outcomes.
Q: How can public feedback influence tourism initiatives?
A: Feedback from citizens helps policymakers understand community needs and preferences, leading to more relevant and impactful initiatives.
Q: What advantages come from inclusive public forums on policy matters?
A: Inclusivity promotes equity, diversity of thought, and innovative solutions that address various stakeholders’ concerns.
Q: What are the benefits of educational platforms like Mizani254 in policy engagement?
A: Educational tools bridge knowledge gaps, empower citizens with information, and encourage active participation in governance.
Q: How do open communication channels empower communities in policy discussions?
A: Accessible communication fosters transparency and allows for meaningful citizen input, ensuring policies reflect community voices.
Q: How can policymakers leverage public feedback for better decision-making?
A: By integrating feedback, policymakers gain insights into community priorities, leading to more informed and effective policy choices.
Q: Why is it important to create spaces for dialogue on policy matters?
A: Open dialogues cultivate understanding, collaboration, and collective problem-solving, essential for democratic policy processes.
Highlights
Time: 00:10:45
Importance of Public Engagement Exploring how public involvement shapes tourism policies and decision-making in Nairobi.
Time: 00:25:18
Community Collaboration for Sustainable Development Discussing the role of community partnerships in driving sustainable tourism practices.
Time: 00:35:50
Policy Transparency and Accountability Examining the benefits of transparent policy processes for fostering trust and credibility.
Time: 00:50:32
Inclusive Platforms for Civic Engagement Highlighting the significance of inclusive platforms like Mizani254 in promoting citizen participation.
Time: 01:05:14
Education and Empowerment in Policy Discourse Understanding how educational initiatives empower communities to engage with policymaking.
Time: 01:15:29
Collaborative Governance for Policy Success Exploring the impact of stakeholder collaboration on effective policy formulation and implementation.
Time: 01:30:45
Community Feedback for Policy Improvement Analyzing how public feedback leads to enhanced tourism initiatives and regulatory frameworks.
Time: 01:45:22
Open Dialogue for Informed Decision-Making Emphasizing the importance of open communication channels in policy discussions and governance.
Time: 02:00:10
Mizani254: Fostering Civic Participation Showcasing the role of Mizani254 as a catalyst for citizen engagement in policy dialogues.
Time: 02:15:48
Policy Transparency for Community Trust Illustrating how transparency in policy formulation builds trust and credibility among stakeholders.
Key Takeaways
- Tourism policy in Nairobi requires robust public participation for effectiveness and inclusivity.
- Effective policy implementation hinges on community engagement and stakeholder involvement.
- Public feedback plays a vital role in shaping tourism regulations and initiatives.
- Meaningful conversations contribute to more informed decision-making processes.
- Mizani254 serves as a hub for fostering dialogue on policy matters and citizen engagement.
- Transparency in policy formulation is essential for building trust and accountability.
- Stakeholder collaboration enhances the success and sustainability of tourism policies.
- Inclusive public forums promote diverse perspectives and innovative solutions.
- Educational platforms like Mizani254 bridge the gap between policymakers and the public.
- Access to information and open communication channels empower communities in policy discussions.
Introduction and Welcoming Remarks
South Sea south beat 111 two, three westy can’t get me not don’t need number 90, baby ain’t no city like my city oh no, no they can do it like we do it in the two five, four we got the new no I’m in love with my city boss I’m going big up Mahasala tarmac my foreigners I’m keeping it real, keeping it local I’m sorrow original Florida they can do it like we do it in the two, five, four road no more they can do it like we do it in the two, five, four I love my city oh yes, I do good morning and thank you so much pp for that very wonderful music. Welcome, everyone on the Mizani 254 space. And everybody. Today we’re going to talk about the Nairobi tourism policy. There’s a draft policy that has been done by the Nairobi county government, Nairobi county city government, and there will be public participation that will be done by the county government starting tomorrow. We welcome all of you to have a conversation around this draft policy, to have your input and suggestions on what can be done. And after that, then we have an opportunity to probably do a report on this matter on Mizani 254.
Promoting Engagement and Contributions
We have everybody to feel free to have a conversation. We’ll ask the questions and even if you have a divergent opinion, we are comfortable with that as long as it remains within the confines of respect, civility, factual. So without further ado, I’d like to invite the host, Eli, to welcome those who are going to make their contributions as we look at this conversation. Thank you very much and welcome. Eli. Good morning. Good morning, everybody. Welcome to the conversation. My name is Eliquiani and we do want to take this opportunity to welcome you to no other city than Nairobi. Yamamzi, Wasupu, Magari, Moto and what you have. But then again, it’s a city that people pride itself anytime they travel across the continent and head to East Africa. Is it a city worth investing in? Is it a city worth visiting? We’ll be finding out as we start the conversation this morning. Remember, you can be part of this by simply requesting the mic once we open it to the plenary.
Expectations for the Day’s Discussions
And for now, I must say that we have been looking forward to this conversation. We have made a simple summary of the talk, so if you want to look at it, grab it on the link that is posted on the jumbotron in a few and be part of the biggest conversation this Sunday morning. We will be having representation from the Nairobi county city, including one and only Anastasia Ngalita, who she will have an opportunity to introduce herself to you guys, if you haven’t heard about her. And definitely we expect the likes of Paola or Paula Kahumbo to be here to discuss matters. Tourism, among other conversations that surround this very important ecosystem that formulates part and parcel of our earnings from the international front. Well, ladies and gentlemen, I will be doing a bad job if I don’t allow my good friend Obeds, who is in the tourism sector, to actually lead us through and introduce our very few and many speakers that will be joining in tonight, this morning.
Continuing the Engagement
So, Obeds, I’ll cross over back to you and let’s hear what we have this morning on tourism talks. Zero four seven. That is the hashtag. Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, and let’s have this conversation. Thank you again. Yeah, truly, I’m a travel consultant by trade now, and I have an interest in this conversation. And it is important, I think, that we talk about what the city council would like to do. However, we have the speakers we have today. We have Anastasia Nyarlita, we have Paula Kahumbu. And I think I’ve seen Rupi Mangat. Rupi, I’ve sent you the microphone, so feel free to join. Accept the microphone so that we can have this conversation without really overemphasizing the point. I have Anastasia, you know, speak about exactly what is the tourism policy that the county government has decided to do and why they’re doing that tourism policy and what informs that, so that we give, I give her enough time, at least ten minutes or 15, for her to put out the conversation as much as she can so that we’ll be able to pick it up from there because we need to understand exactly where we’re coming from and why they decided to do the tourism policy and what informs it.
Engaging with Speakers and Understanding the Policy
Anastasia, I would not do a good job of introducing you. You have more details about yourself, so I’ll be glad that you introduce yourself and be able to continue with the conversation, especially on the introduction part of the tourism policy, the draft tourism policy. Welcome, Anastasia. Please unmute and speak if you can hear me. Can you hear us? Maybe as we get that sorted out, we’ll also give Paula here the opportunity to introduce herself and tell us maybe what she expect out of this conversation. Remember, she’s a player in that industry, especially in the conservancy. I don’t know if tourism really matters to her. Let’s hear from Paula, quick remarks and then figure out if we can get in touch with Anastasia. Thank you so much. Mizani Eli obed. This is just an amazing opportunity for us to have a conversation as people who live in the city of Nairobi and people who love this city. I’m so excited about this event because Nairobi is such a multicultural and diverse city.
Technology Issues and Initial Comments
My phone just decided to die on me. So I’m using somebody’s account to make my comment. In regards to the Nairobi tourism policy, a lot of things have been said. But there is one thing I would like to know from the county because it’s not well expressed. And one is how are they going to manage the experiences? If I point out one thing on gastronomy experiences, perhaps you need to take someone to the market to buy something to cook. And I have seen cases whereby the market, the people in the market are a bit hostile and believing that the market has seen under the city, county of Nairobi. How are they going to make sure that if you have visitors, especially of international, how are they going to make sure that they have security in there? I still do not get it from their policy.
Policy Concerns and Regulatory Challenges
Some of these experiences how they are going to regulate them. And I also see from the policy without the collaboration. Like they will rely on collaboration. Because even on regulation, they’ll have to count on tre. If they have to change some things, then it tre being an act of parliament, then it means this policy. Some of these things are just going to, you know, to get dusty somewhere. Thank you. Thank you, Rose. That is taken on board. I think when they have an opportunity to respond, they can. I’d have grace and then come to Rupee. Then sahil. Grace unmute and. Hello. Good morning, everybody. Rupi, I’ll give you. You’re speaking after Grace has spoken, so allow her to make her point. Then you come after her.
Government Perspectives on Nairobi Tourism Policy
Grace. Yes. Good morning, everyone. Good morning. We can hear you. It’s not possible for everyone to say good morning. Oh, you can hear me. Thank you. So, my name is Grace Tabura from Nairobi county government. I’m the assistant director, tourism, and I want to comment on a few issues. Number one, an issue which was raised why we are not using the national government policy or why we decided to come with the policy. It is because that we have two levels of government. That is the national government and the county governments. And the county governments, according to the schedule for the Kenyan constitution, have been meditated to run local tourism. And why the policy? We need a roadmap so that we are able to manage the local tourism within the.
Challenges in Policy Development and Community Engagement
Within the county. Also in the discussion, I love the discussion there. Many speakers have spoken and clearly what is coming out are the challenges. And the challenges have been identified very clearly in the SWOT analysis that is in chapter two. And that is why we need this policy, so that we are able to address those. Those challenges. So, and matters of implementation, why the policy might be general. I believe after this we are going to come up also with implementation guideline. So I believe things are going to be more clearer. So I hope that as we go tomorrow, physical public participation, that we are going to receive more of submissions so that we can continue improving the document.
Diversity and Sustainability Issues
Thank you very much. If you can hear me, I’d just like to jump in a little bit and raise some concerns, rather, from what Mohanjit raised earlier on the diversity aspect of it. Looking at the policy document, it’s proposing a number of that which includes sustainability. And when we’re coming up with this conversation, I had the opportunity to speak to one of the industry players who are passionate about sustainable tourism and in their statements which I’m going to be playing in a few. She notes quite an interesting number of issues that I believe you need to listen to. That is Judy Kefagona and we’re going to go to her, who earlier on we had a recording with her and this is what she had to say about the conversation.
Expert Insights on Policy Impacts
My name is Judy Kefagona from sustainable travel and Tourism Africa. I am a sustainable tourism consultant. I would like to comment on the draft tourism policy for Nairobi county and my comments are going to be very broad based. I want to start by saying that a tourism policy should not be designed as a standalone revenue generation stream for a county. A tourism policy must be woven into the bigger development aspirations of the city. We all know that sustainable development goal number eleven talks about making cities inclusive, safe, resilient and sustainable. The SDGs are therefore a global benchmark for any development agenda. So when we are developing a tourism policy today, we cannot ignore that there is a global framework for development.
Concerns about Tourism Policy
We are talking about the people you mentioned in your statistics, in terms of numbers, who lives where, how are they benefiting directly, how are you sustaining it in such a way that they don’t feel you only got money out of this and you left us hung to dry. The issues such as water and what have you, it’s quite a number of issues that are being addressed, and you only focused on the economic aspect in this document as of now. But that does not mean it’s closed for discussion. I believe that’s the common understanding. So in order to engage others speakers, I’ll ask you to land at that, and then I would love to hear from two operators. If you’re here and you’re a two operator, we’d love to hear from you. Kindly request the mic. Let us know what you think about the talk. In the meantime, we are looking at the general aspect of this policy and what you find missing and what needs to be addressed. Weston. Weston, rather, the mic is yours, Eli, I think also request that those who have spoken to allow others, you know, we only have a number of slots, ten maximum.
Participants Contributions and Opportunities
So request that we allow others to be able to also come to the speaker and contribute. That is noted. We’ll do that. So we will also give you an opportunity in case you have some extra you want to add on the talk. We’ll give you an opportunity to come back, but for now, I’ll empty a few of your speakers and then invite new speakers. But, Weston, kindly make your comments. The mic is yours. Thank you so much, Mizani. Thank you. Beds and greetings to all the participants on this forum. What a timely and topical topic. One my take is that the tourism ministry in Kenya must be scrapped. It must be scrapped. If anything, it be reduced to some desk in some other relevant ministry. Why do I say this? Because I cringe whenever I listen to what people are associated with that ministry say whenever I read things written by people under the Kenya Tourism Board, whenever I look at their slogan, you know, this selling in magical Kenya, I see people who are completely immersed in racism.
Issues with Current Tourism Ministry
Completely immersed in racism. You know, that they behave as reminiscent of those early anthropologists. Like Kenya is such a magical world because of wildlife, wild animals and game reserves. What about the people of Kenya? Where are they? And the idea of tourism is about some foreign bringing in some hard cash. It’s not about local people, but for local people to participate in tourism and travel across the country, explore nature and wildlife, that’s a matter of the economy. The economy must be turned around to empower people to be able to spend a money and travel and enjoy themselves. So the government, successive governments, not only this one, is completely oblivious of how tourism as a sector is not about earning income for the country, but about Weston. Just to be clear, you still focusing your laser on Nairobi county, right? Yes. Or generally, yes, it’s Nairobi county as a microcosm of tourism generally.
Evaluation of Tourism Policy Impacts
Because what happens in Nairobi will also happen in Samburu or Laikipia or Narok. The same government, same ministry, same tourism board, same people, same thinking. That’s why I cringe. I cringe, Mizani, frankly speaking, and I couldn’t have had a better opportunity to raise this issue about. For instance, during the Covid-19 lockdown, the minister of tourism was receiving visitors from abroad while Kenyans were locked up in their homes. Like you cringe when you see those things that this country doesn’t belong to Kenyans, it belongs to some other people. And those are the people who have got money. You know, as long as you’ve got money, you’re bringing money so that even in school you listen to students telling you know, that road is not good because it must be good for tourists. The airport is leaking because the tourists would not like it. Our visitors will be embarrassed. What about us? Don’t we have, don’t we deserve good roads? Must in the airport be up to scratch because it is our facility.
Challenges and Actions in Tourism Sector
We’re the ones who use it. But it’s the thinking that has been inculcated in Kenyans over the years that things you don’t deserve good things, it’s only foreigners and visitors who deserve good things. You don’t know anything about tourism. Tourism is a preserve of foreigners. It’s a preserve of muzungu. Hence you see these clashes in Laikipia, in Samburu, in Iraq, between the local people and those people who are taking charge of those conservancies about land grabs and all sorts of injustices. To the extent that people can come to Kenya and commit atrocities and even the judiciary will let them walk because those were tourists. If we try them and we lock them up, we’re going to scare tourists from this country. Government officials say these things and you cringe. You cringe. What’s going on? So I suggest, that’s my suggestion, you just grab the Ministry of Tourism, reduce it to a desk until we are authentic.
Authenticity in Tourism Policy
Because tourism is about authenticity. You walk around cities in other parts of the world, even cuisines along the streets, you know, cooking food. That’s part of tourism. That’s what attracts people. It’s not just about wild animals, but a president of Kenya, a governor, politicians, ministers, even when visitors come attending these high level UN summits. Or it could be even a climate change. We just out of the. Some government official telling visitors, you are free to visit our game parks and watch our world. My goodness. Who says that? Who says that? I mean, because we don’t appreciate where we’re coming from, honestly speaking. And these people are in very strategic positions in government. They are leading, making decisions, making policies, and they make policies that hurt the people of Kenya, that propagate impoverishment as opposed to empowering people of Kenya, that center wild animals, nature, as opposed to the people of Kenya.
Public Participation and Inclusion Issues
And they are talking about development. What development? So when you look at it, you realize, no tourism, from the way these government people look at it really doesn’t really accrue anything to the people of Kenya other than just debasing them and dehumanizing them. So I think we need a paradigm shift in the way we think about and around tourism, in the way we think the relationship between kenyan people and the white people, to be precise. Because even in those game parks, there are Kenyans who are complained online. They go there, they are racially profiled. You don’t belong here. What are you looking for here? They write those things. The government doesn’t say anything about that because those people have got money. You don’t have money. You. You don’t have to go there, Mizani. All right. Speaking.
Positive Engagement for Tourism Policy Improvement
I’m disturbed and these things must be raised. I get you. Yes. And the. The profiling. Aspect. In fact, when you visit some hotels, game parks and what have you will experience it if you are the like of my skin. But does that in itself say we have to completely forget about tourism? I think Anastasi, it’s only fair you respond to some of these very heavy concerns because we are looking at economy at the expense of the people and dehumanizing the kenyan person. How do you intend to resolve this idea that Kenyans are lesser of human beings when we inculcate tourism into our money making scheme? Anastasia? Thank you, Elaine Obed and yes, I’ve been listening to the input and feedback, very valuable input.
Economic Sustainability in Tourism
We will definitely update the policy to incorporate this. I’m convinced that for sustainability, we should not only talk about the economy, it’s sustainability across the board with respect and more so because we have a five year election cycle. So whatever we develop must equip the technocrats to be able to exercise whatever it takes to ensure we have sustainable tourism irrespective of the election cycles? I think that’s one of the things also the policies is supposed to kill because we realize that with every election cycle, every leader has their own perspective on what tourism looks like. And they also have, you know, prioritization is very different. We’re very privileged at the moment that we have a sub sector that looks nothing else than tourism before it was hidden somewhere in trade and cooperatives.
Future Strategies in Tourism Development
I’m sure if you look at the other counties as well, you see how it’s structured. But it’s some high time that we brought that out. Now when we look at the policy, it should give us a very clear roadmap, as Nahashan has said, you know, to be able to come up with the legislations that work, to be able to work with, come up with strategies in a five year, ten year strategy for tourism in Nairobi, for Nairobi City county. And of course, looking at the other counties, there’s a couple of counties that are ahead of us in terms of legislating tourism, and I believe they’re doing extremely much better than we are. Yet we have a bigger opportunity, if I may say that. Yes, we must move beyond, and this is something that also the team led by Susan has realized that we are only focusing tourism in Kenya, only focused on wildlife tourism, not about wildlife.
Introduction to Nairobi
So what are these things you’ll say we are putting out for you guys to come and visit, experience the tranquility and the hustle and bustle of Nairobi. Maybe Susan can come into that path. Yeah, Susan will do it. Susan, that’s her lead role. Thank you very much. You’ve told me to assume to sell Nairobi. I’ll sell Nairobi in a second and then I’ll also tell you what we are doing in regards to that. Welcome to Nairobi. Nairobi is a safari. Actually Nairobi. We call it the safari capital of the world because we are the only city in the world that has a national park within its boundary. It is the gateway to east and central Africa. The leading business travel destination in Africa. This is the city that seamlessly blends modernity with the wonders of nature. A city full of contrast. It’s old enough that you can feel its past and multiethnic enough that you can delight in the beauty of diverse culture, vibrant culture and one culture that really stands out.
Culture and Nightlife in Nairobi
That is the Nairobi culture where flamboyant matatus add color to our streets and the rhythm to our bustling streets. You can embark to a culinary adventure like no other. You can discover Nairobi, why it was named the city. Actually it was named the best city in the world. That is in 2024 by the only planet, the green City. Someone talked about the green city in the sun, yet it’s still the green city in the sun. It has all because it has something new for everyone to discover. New places to explore, new shops, new friendships to forge, new karen ali delight to sample and new architectural marvels to admire. As night falls, nightlife of Nairobi is huge. You discover why Nairobi is the city that never sleeps. With a nightlife that promises endless entertainment. Immerse yourself in our thriving scenes famously known as the vibe of the city and let the city energy captivate you.
Developing Nairobi’s Tourism
After you explore. Nairobi has actually the finest accommodation, world class accommodation that you find in Nairobi. What we also. There’s someone who talked about the product, why we are developing product. This product development we are doing in liaison with other stakeholders right now. We are packaging the nightlife of Nairobi. We’re also developing some products like for example, we’ll have very soon a walk of fame. It is part of actually all these are in the marketing strategy that we are developing for Nairobi. Then the walk of fame. This is where we want to honor the heroes that have made an impact in the city. We also have the walking tours of the city. Nairobi has a beautiful history. Nairobi actually is older than the country itself. Nairobi is 125 years going to 126. We tell I want actually just to sell the city tours to Nairobians. They come and understand how Nairobi has evolved over the years.
Highlights of Nairobi’s Attractions
Nairobi has a very interesting history that we have packaged in terms of circuits and in form of circuits, something else to sell. To sell about Nairobi. Nairobi, actually, it has a beautiful, it has wonderful natural resources. We have beautiful forests, we have open spaces. We have so much that I think because of time, I will not be able to say everything that Nairobi has. But Nairobi is so huge. It has actually, it has everything because we, the only thing that we miss is we miss our beaches. Otherwise, we have wildlife, we have culture, we have heritage, we have sports, because we have, actually, gastronomy is also huge in Nairobi with our street foods. We have festivals, like a Nairobi festival, a very big festival.
Potential of Nairobi’s Tourism
For example, last year we actually had a festival whereby we had 50 people visit our festival in a day. So Nairobi with the stakeholders. Yeah, 50,000. Sorry, 50,000. 50,000. So Nairobi has a lot of potential, and that’s why we are doing this policy, so that it can define at least and it can help us develop Nairobi’s tourism and make Nairobi the premier tourism destination, not just regionally, but globally. Thank you. Thank you very much. Susan, kindly mute. So I’ve listened to you. I’m trying to buy a ticket to visit Nairobi, but I’ve called my friend Paula and she’s telling me a different story. Paula, tell me about Nairobi. You know, look, I do love Nairobi, and I think Susan is right on so many fronts of my concern is with things like nightclubs, not because of my age and that I’m not Gen Z, but because the livability of the city is one of the big attractions of Nairobi.
Concerns About Nightlife and Urban Safety
That’s why we have so many people moving to Nairobi from all over. So I would say that anything that you’re going to do around developing the city in terms of nightlife, please make those places soundproof and compliant with Nema sound requirements because that has been a major problem not only with nightlife, but also with churches and mosques as well. I think Nairobi as I’ve just received something from Kenya Wildlife Service, and they’re saying that they feel that they were left out of this policy process. And this is a huge, big issue for me. If KWs and KWs stakeholders were not part of this. And one of the most outstanding things about Nairobi is, aside from history, which is history, it’s never going to change.
Biodiversity and Natural Attractions
But what’s unique about Nairobi really, is that it is one of the most biodiverse, if not the most biodiverse city in the world. And we don’t have a culture as Kenyans in the city to take care of that nature. Most of the big attractions are also in the Karan Langata area. If you were to map out all the experiences and monuments and sites in the city. You have the Nairobi National park, you also have museums and you have Karura. But actually most of those attractions are down in the southern part of the city. Karen and Langata. And I feel like the Karen Langata association should have been a major player in developing this policy because a lot of the developments are also impacting on the livability of the city.
Balancing Development and Community Input
I really love the idea of improving the business environment. Nairobi needs to be a city where every single participant, every citizen can participate in promoting the city, doing business in tourism and promoting tourism, I feel that is currently not there. There’s a group of elite organizations or companies that are being involved. And we need to democratize this opportunity of tourism because we know that right now it’s 2 million or 1.5 million visitors visiting Nairobi and their aspirations are to move up to about, I think, 5 million visitors coming into the city. Well, it’s not going to happen unless we unleash all Kenyans who are interested in participating in this sector to be part of the business case for tourism in the city of Nairobi.
Environmental Responsibility and Public Participation
And finally, I think that one of the biggest gaps for me is really that vision. What Susan has said about the vision, she’s talking so much about history, if you ask me about vision for Nairobi. I really think, like Rupi and Mohanjeet and others, the vision for Nairobi should really have nature, biodiversity and sustainability at its heart. At the moment, we don’t see policies that are linked to this tourism policy which is linked, for example, electric vehicle or more ecological practices when it comes to wastes, waste management, energy and even every consumer thing that’s going on in the city. So that’s my contribution. I really wish that. I hope that the policy is not fixed in stone at the moment.
Community Engagement in Local Tourism Policy
I keep hearing that this is almost like it’s the final and we’re just endorsing it. But I really hope that there’s space for this policy to be opened up for greater contribution from these various different stakeholders. Thank you so much. Just a second, David, because you’re the next speaker. We’ve listened from Paula and you might have your own contribution. However, this is mine to you. You have been a lecturer, I believe so. You said this in your earlier presentation. You also operate tourism in the country. I have just arrived in the capital and I’m choking under the stench of the city.
