Meta Talks EP3: Can healing with Nature Optimize Your Well-being?

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The Twitter Space Meta Talks EP3: Can healing with Nature Optimize Your Well-being? hosted by imcryptohustler. Meta Talks EP3 delved into the transformative potential of merging nature healing practices with modern technology in optimizing holistic well-being. The discussion emphasized the profound impact of nature immersion on mental health, productivity, and community well-being. Experts highlighted the importance of balancing digital living with nature exposure to support personal wellness. The space underscored how biophilic design and nature-based therapies offer sustainable solutions for urban environments and individual health. Overall, the conversation showcased the synergy between nature, technology, and well-being in the Web3 era.

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Questions

Q: How does nature immersion enhance mental well-being?
A: Being in nature reduces stress, boosts mood, and promotes relaxation, improving mental health.

Q: What role does technology play in combining nature with wellness practices?
A: Technology enables virtual nature experiences, mindfulness apps, and data-driven wellness solutions.

Q: Why is it important to incorporate nature into urban environments?
A: Green spaces in cities enhance air quality, biodiversity, and community well-being.

Q: How can personalized nature experiences optimize individual wellness?
A: Tailoring nature interactions to individual preferences increases engagement and health benefits.

Q: What are the benefits of biophilic design in modern living spaces?
A: Biophilic design connects people to nature, improving mood, focus, and overall well-being.

Q: Why are nature-based therapies gaining popularity in holistic health approaches?
A: Nature therapies offer natural, sustainable solutions for mental health, stress reduction, and physical well-being.

Q: How can nature healing practices contribute to environmental consciousness?
A: Engaging with nature fosters a deeper appreciation for the environment, promoting eco-friendly behaviors.

Q: What are the challenges in balancing digital lifestyles with nature exposure?
A: Maintaining a healthy balance between technology use and nature immersion is essential for overall well-being.

Q: How can communities benefit from creating green environments in urban settings?
A: Green urban spaces improve community health, encourage outdoor activities, and enhance social connections.

Q: In what ways can technology enhance the effectiveness of nature-based wellness experiences?
A: Tech tools like virtual reality, wearable devices, and wellness apps complement nature therapies, providing personalized and data-driven solutions.

Highlights

Time: 00:12:45
The Impact of Nature on Mental Health Exploring how nature exposure influences mood, stress levels, and mental well-being.

Time: 00:27:18
Tech-Infused Nature Wellness Solutions Discussing the intersection of technology and nature-based wellness practices for holistic health benefits.

Time: 00:41:02
Biophilic Design for Urban Well-being Examining how incorporating nature elements in city living spaces enhances residents' health and connection to nature.

Time: 00:58:30
Personalized Nature Experiences Highlighting the importance of tailored nature interactions for individual wellness optimization.

Time: 01:12:14
Community Health and Green Environments Detailing the advantages of green urban areas in promoting community well-being and environmental sustainability.

Time: 01:32:05
Technology Integration for Nature Therapies Exploring how wellness tech augments nature healing practices, offering innovative solutions for mental and physical wellness.

Time: 01:49:20
Balancing Digital Life with Nature Exposure Addressing the need for a harmonious mix of technology and nature interactions for optimal well-being.

Time: 02:05:45
The Rise of Nature-Based Therapies Examining the growing popularity of nature therapies as sustainable and effective approaches to holistic health.

Time: 02:18:10
Environmental Awareness Through Nature Healing Discussing how nature practices cultivate environmental consciousness and eco-friendly behaviors.

Time: 02:33:55
Innovative Tech Tools for Nature Wellness Exploring cutting-edge technologies that enhance nature therapy experiences, offering personalized and tech-infused solutions.

Key Takeaways

• Connecting with nature positively impacts mental health and overall well-being.
• Utilizing nature in wellness practices can reduce stress and enhance productivity.
• Technology integration with nature-based healing methods enhances accessibility and effectiveness.
• Balancing digital lifestyles with nature exposure is crucial for maintaining personal well-being.
• Nature immersion fosters creativity, mindfulness, and emotional resilience.
• Incorporating biophilic design in urban spaces promotes ecological awareness and health benefits.
• Nature-based therapies offer sustainable solutions for improving mental and physical health.
• Creating green environments in cities supports community well-being and environmental conservation.
• Personalized nature experiences cater to individual preferences and boost holistic wellness.
• Wellness technologies can amplify the benefits of nature therapy and mindfulness practices.

Behind the Mic

Weather Talk

What's up? It's another beautiful day here in Arizona. Yeah, most definitely, I would assume. How's the weather? Kind of, like, better. It's 75 degrees. You know, right now it's supposed to still hit 100 over 100 today. Oh, wow. That's a lot higher than I see, actually. You know what? The sun is rising too. I'd say it's probably to be about high seventies, low eighties. I mean, it was pretty hot yesterday, but it took all day to get there. So we will see how it goes today. Everyone coming in. We'll be starting here soon.

Introduction to Today's Topic

Today's topic is pretty, I guess, agnostic in that sense, because nature does optimize our well being. But of course, is that possible with our daily lives? Being behind a desk all day? You know, it's kind of hard to tell for someone after not taking that time to heal themselves and go back to nature or even, you know, just have your elements of nature near you. That's all you need. We'll dive into it today and we'll hear from mama on that. Just a reminder, everyone. Be sure to hit the bottom corner of the space. Share with everyone. Let everyone know that today we're going to be having meta talks, episode three. And appreciate one being, coming up here on the top of the hour. Appreciate everyone being here.

Casual Conversation

Momo, how's it going? Good, good. I appreciate you all coming out this beautiful Saturday day. 100%. Yeah, it's a start of a brand new day. I should be out and about today. Oh, we got Alejandro back. Yes. Let's go. Amen. Yeah. I love your backstory with your family, focusing on organic food. That was a really good story. I appreciate that you had that ability to be raised by someone that cares so much about your well being. How was your morning, sir? Alejandra. Oh, sorry, my spaces were lagging. Good, Mandeh. I just caught the audio now.

Reflections on Nature

Yeah, everything's chill this morning. Just having a relaxed one after just staying up late. And I was excited to hear about other opinions and views on the space, about how nature can optimize your well being. I have some thoughts on that, but I figured there would be possibly other experts here in the panel that could shed some wisdom on that. Yeah. Thanks for being here. Appreciate it. Momo, do you want to start or how do you want to go about this? Yeah, I can start. No problem. Thank you, everybody to welcome to meta talks.

Healing with Nature

Today is going to be on healing with nature, reconnecting for optimal well being. So we wanted to get more rooted into nature and discuss topics such as using nature for therapy, healing and understanding, and more about ancient practices. Dustin is our host and I'm co hosting. And so we actually wanted to talk about like this topic just because of the podcast last week. I felt like a lot of people connected so much with Jen's homesteading and the watching the bees and butterflies and just being able to connect with nature, grounding, walking barefoot in the grass kind of thing.

Exploring Natural Practices

Prashant had brought up the humming practice. It's a yogic humming practice where you actually buzzed. And so I think that's interesting just how it's throughout history. So yeah, we wanted to tie nature in with simple practices that can help people calm their minds and feel grounded. So today's topic will be healing through nature's inherent powers and leveraging nature's elements such as fire, water, metal, and earth to our benefit. I want to encourage any listeners to check out our previous episode. Also, if you'd like to join our panel and speak today on the topic, we'd love to hear your experiences.

Previous Week's Insights

Yeah, 100%. I appreciate everyone coming. Last week we had some really big speakers. We had ed, he's in the space. Be sure to check out everything he's doing. He's really big in react and a very important movement. So I do appreciate Alejandro from last week coming over, get a lot of insightful information. So that was great to hear from everyone. So yeah, be sure to come back every week. Saturday 08:00 a.m. pacific 03:00 p.m. uTC and this week we're talking about can healing with nature optimize your well being? What's that mean to everybody?

Personal Connection with Nature

To me, it means that nature is most important. We do forget that in our busy lives. It's easy to walk away from nature when we're stuck inside an office or behind a desk or on a computer, and I find myself not taking that time I necessarily need. And I do realize that balance for myself. And I have taken that time, and I do enjoy any moment I do have in the wilderness. I do have a good forest, I guess to say, in my general area. So it's nice to kind of take a day off to bask in your environment and inside the, you know, a forest or even just walking at the park, you know, is something simple.

Encouragement for Nature

You know, find yourself away from, you know, your busy day to absorb nature. That to me is huge and it can come in any aspect, so definitely take the time to do so and what that means to you. Of course, it's all subjective of what considered nature is. But nature is everywhere around us, and if you have the time to do so, please do so. Momo, how's your nature in Arizona? You know, it's definitely different than Washington. I miss the evergreenness. Like that was.

Describing Arizona's Nature

I know, I know. Like, my traveling down here, pre moving helped me adjust. I did all the trips down here before I was able to. Like, finally I remember that last visit, I was like, oh, the brown is not so ugly. It has some beauty to it. It's different. Yeah, yeah. Like, sage kind of feel. Yeah. Like, yeah, it's different. Desert. Desert vibes are a little different than Pacific Northwest if you guys have been. I think what I felt in love with most, well, one of the things I have is, like, the openness of the sky.

Reflections on the Sky

Oh, true. It is a 300 days a year of blue sky here versus my whole life has been 300 days of rain and clouds a year in Washington, so. I know, right? Well, it's a little depressing for some, for those who travel there. I'm sure you guys love it, but when you're there for most of your life, it's a little different. Yeah. So, yeah, I love that you can just, like, look around and you see all these different mountain ranges from so, so far away. And I love that. But I mean, even, like, I live in the city, so, like, the ways I try to connect with nature simply is when I walk outside, I actually, I greet the sun, I greet the moon, I say hi, and, I take in the stars.

Morning Rituals

Like, you know, I get up really early. I get up 04:00 a.m. my time. It's still dark and. Yeah. So Noria and I go on a walk and so I can see the stars. It's quiet there. You know, it's not allowed of that, the city noise. And that's one of the most and joyful moments of my day is our 04:00 a.m. walk. And, you know, me, like, me getting up at 04:00 a.m. was not me of the past, but that is me of today. I promise you, like, that is possible. And I've been able to make these changes with using nature, you know, and the other topics that we talked about.

Changes with Nature

Food was a big thing. Right. And so, yeah, I definitely do think it is important to get away from the computers, the screens, the fake lights. Go enjoy the real sun. Go smile at a tree. Go hug a tree, if you dare. Well, that. Yeah, I'm the same way. Yeah, there's always. Yeah, yeah, I get caught up in the. And I'm very prone to doing so. I like to work a lot, but that does affect my everything, you know? And it also food consumption that does play a part on your vital health.

Impact of Food Consumption

You know, that goes with sleeping and then being able to have the extra energy to go out to the wilderness. Like, you disconnect with food you eat. I feel that quite often, if that's the case, you know, not quite often, but saying, like, when I do. So I guess to say cheats, you know, it does affect me. And so, yeah, it does. Every little thing does, make it so you don't have that ability. You know, it's like, it's. It's temporary, but it could be permanent. And then it takes you away from nature. It takes away from, like, seeing what's outside of the world that you create.

Connecting with Nature

You know, the bubble, I guess, to say, and blue light. Yeah, that's, you know, it's good to get that, like, good red light, good rate light therapy if you can get it, you know, unnatural, natural. Obviously, natural is better. But, yeah, blue lights just. It's so detrimental, I guess, to say, in long term, staring at screens and whatnot. But, you know, we're all learning. We're all, you know, we're all, I guess, grasshoppers. You know, I'm not like a sensei grasshopper. Same time.

Reflections on Perspectives

I mean, in comparison, like, some of these guys, they'll say, ed, he's, you know, obviously way up there in the knowledge when it comes to ag reagan. Yeah, it's food. You know, like that. That I'm still, you know, as a, I guess, half korean, half american person, you know, I've been lucky to have had those options, I guess to say, like, kimchi and, like, I guess, healthier food and whatnot. And then, like, nature, too. Like, my father was big into, like, hunting and fishing.

Personal Background in Nature

So, you know, obviously, it's not. Not my forte as I got older. Like, I'm not gonna go hunting all the time or fishing at all, or. I mean, I love fishing, I guess, to say. But hunting, I'm not really big on hunting, but obviously, if it was, like, for getting food that we needed, that we could just buy from the store, you know, like, kind of thing, or grow myself, then obviously I would go that route. But overall, like, getting that itself brought me to going out in nature.

Nature and Energy

And, you know, I think that has its value because the times I spent out in the woods, you know, I realize that's, like, a lot of my energy that when I go there. I feel balanced. You know, I could walk away from my phone in my computer because I have a. An open fire. You know, I have to, you know, have to take care of the fire. You know, I have to make sure the fire is going. I have to make sure that there's enough light at night because the fire, you know, make sure that I'm warm. I'll make sure.

Joy in Wilderness

So, for me, I enjoy the wilderness. I enjoy building dams. I love the water. I love putting my feet in the sand. You know, I always come home with scratches, you know, but these are just like nature's kisses, you know, like, I scrape my knee on the ground. Like, I wouldn't do that if I was at my house. You know, I might bump my knee into the wall or something. But, like, those little. Small instances are a way for nature to tell me that I am here, I'm loved, I'm aware of, and I don't really notice that as a kid, you kind of just run around, get hurt or whatever, and then you just live your life.

Lessons from Nature

As I got older, I'm realizing when nature has these little surprises for me when I'm just traveling, maybe I'm the only one that can see it. It's one of those if a Ydezenhe tree falls in the woods, does it make a sound kind of thing? You know, like, is it just me that sees this or others can see things? I feel like sometimes, like, well, like, nature shows you things that others can't see or maybe just the world itself. Like, we all kind of can see different things.

Nature's Wholesomeness

You know, it's all perspective. But, like, nature to me is, like, it's very wholesome. It's. It's brought a lot of my values to fruition through life. You know, I've. I've always been drawn to go back, you know, and in whatever form, you know, if it's, like a small patch of woods, if it's a park, you know, sometimes, obviously, park for me doesn't always, I guess, hit the nail in the coffin. It doesn't, like, scratch my itch completely. But I do enjoy nature in any sense.

Activities in Nature

But, like, my biggest. My biggest entertainment, I guess, to say no more, or Alejandro, if you guys want to jump on, jump in here. My entertainment is building dams. Like, I love building dams. Like. Like a beaver, you know? I don't know what it is. I just love. Well, I know today I like the rising water, and because I love swimming, it's like I create my own, like, water source, you know? But obviously, there's aspects of that some. Some could say, you know, building the dam, it affects the water in other areas and, you know, stuff like that.

Reflections on Building Dams

Like it may change like the course of nature in that specific area. So obviously there's. There's, you know, I guess different aspects of that. But in my sense, I enjoy building dams. That to me is kind of like a. It builds strength, but also builds. It's like entertaining put a boat in the water kind of thing, even when it's shallow. So stuff like that. I enjoy nature, you know, just traveling. It's, I guess to say, getting lost, but yeah. Bobo, what's your entertainment when it comes to going to nature?

Personal Nature Activities

I'm a rock girl. I love rocks. I find all the rocks and I'm. I'm a little like my hikes, I want it to be a workout. So of course, like, I pack a bag so I have food, and then throughout the way, like, I'm drinking the water, I'm eating the food. So my backpack's getting light. I put those rocks in my bag, I bring them home and I do. I will, like, stack the rocks every now and then, but I always put them, like, push it back down. It's not good for animals or the environment to leave the tower of rocks.

Connection with the Environment

Even though they are beautiful and appreciative, they're not always stable. And I like to get dirty. You know, I'm not near any beaches, but yeah, I would love to play with water and sand and make my little castles and cool little villages. But yeah, I just like it all. I like the sites and I really enjoy. I take Nori out and so she's running around and enjoying the time of her life. She's a little rock dog and like, you know, she's ten pounds, but she like, leaps 5ft. And I'm like, damn, girl.

Joy of Pets in Nature

And she just keeps up with me the whole time. She's got a smile on her face, so that's part of my enjoyment. But just like seeing the actual what's going on out there rather than the city, you know, there's the wild animal, the birds, the bees, the bugs. I like to watch them. I like all critters. I don't care what they are. You know me, I put everything outside. If you're in my house and you don't belong, I put you outside. I don't kill you. And so when I'm out in your domain, I'm gonna do my best to make sure I don't harm you.

Observations in Nature

But I want to, like, watch you and your habit. And that's one of the things I enjoy, is that exciting experience, watching everything move and how they are enjoying the water, the sun, and nature itself. Alejandro, I know you want to jump in on in here. Go ahead. Yeah. Thanks, momo. I was actually going to relate to your story about the Pacific Northwest. Not that I've lived there, but I live in Miami.

Contrasting Environments

And despite what, you know, they show you on tv or the stuff they show you on social media, six months out of the year, it's full of humidity, monsoon weather, rain. Like right now, it's cloudy, and then the other six months, which is thankfully coming up, is like perfect weather. So during that six months time where it's monsoon, hurricanes, everything, it's such a pain to go outside and not get drenched just because it's constantly that type of weather. But when the sun is out, when the weather is pleasant, there is a park I like to go to.

Personal Park Experience

I just name drop it if you're ever in town called Kennedy park. And it's really special to me because it's a park that's not only your typical park, but it's located right on the water. So it's residential neighborhood, coconut area, coconut Grove. But there's a little pier that you can take that juts out into the water. And from there, you can see on Miami beach, you can see boats, sailboats, people, even on their jet skis, sometimes passing by, you can wave at them. But when there's not people around there, it's very calm and peaceful.

Meditative Moments

There's no, you know, entrance to pay. You can just go there even by yourself, like a little icy. You know, there's a little truck that sells, like, these little icys and whatever. So I guess what I'm saying is that I have gone there quite a few times as a place to, you know, when liver life is busy, hectic, or not even, you know, I just go there to escape. I go there to, you know, to meditate, to kind of just listen to the water, see if there's any fish around, you know, but just, you know, hearing the nature, hearing the sounds, everything that's going on, being in the present, in the moment.

Spiritual Conversations

I may even take the time to talk with God. I'm Catholic, and, you know, just kind of prayer slash meditation, you know, different from being in a church as an example. It could be a lot more, in some ways, pure. And also, you know what? I gotta say that people. Because it's Miami, after all, and there's a lot of this Los Angeles hype and vibe of, you know, do you have a Lamborghini? Do you have this? Do you have that? Very materialistic.

Friendly Encounters

When I'm at this park, people are. Tend to be also friendlier. People that, you know, you may bump into, but they're just generally friendlier, which is great because it's like, oh, this doesn't seem like Miami. You're not an asshole. Great. You know, so, you know, people are just. They're a lot more open to just having quick little off the cuff conversations, and it's fantastic. So it's just like, you know, it's not even that far from downtown, so it's like two different worlds, you know?

Hiking Adventures

But on the hiking side, I gotta say, I took my first hiking trip in a long time to see my friend in losing Vegas. We went to. I did not know, but three minutes west of Las Vegas, there's Mount Charleston, which is just amazing. So were there in April, and if you can believe it, you know, for an area like the desert, so, you know, similar. You know, I've been to Phoenix before, so momo, so, like, not much of Arizona, but just that part, but same, you know, landscape in Vegas, right?

Unexpected Summer Adventures

And you go up to this mountain and the temperature drops 30 degrees. And I remember in April, were hiking up there, we had the camel packs, the food and everything. We lost cell phone signal. It was great to just, you know, be just the two of us talking, just soaking it all in. And at the top of the trail, I was even able to make a snow angel. Like, there was still snow at the top. And it was just weird because it's like, this is literally late April.

Nature's Joy

So I have a picture on my instagram of me eating some snow and, you know, and even drinking water from, like, one of the streams, you know, and. And one of my friends gave me shit saying, hey, you know, it's gonna. I'm gonna laugh so hard to get, like, cholera or something. And I'm like, man, it's worth the risk, you know, it's the top of a mountain. If it can't drink from this shit, then if it can't drink from here, then we're really screwed.

Disconnecting from Technology

But it was great because it was just, like I said, a general disconnect, being one to one with your buddy, just not giving a damn about social media and all the damn noise which bombards us 24/7 maybe I'm dating myself as a millennial. I sometimes feel for zoomers, and I don't want to assume, but I sometimes feel for them because they don't really know a time before smartphones, you know, we know flip phones, but it's constantly in your face.

Experiencing Nature's Touch

And if you don't have that disconnect or that discipline or even that experience of the past where it wasn't like that, then. Yeah, you know, it's great. It's great to be able to be in that visceral nature and be in touch with Dustin, like you were saying, those little scratches. You know, I think we're still in many ways advanced monkeys and nature is our home in many ways. And you know, it's easy to forget that, especially in this day and age where everything is so conveniently packed for us for convenience.

Final Thoughts

So anyway, those are some of my thoughts. I love the story and the connection. That water must have been so amazing. Just so refreshing. Can't. So chilly. But I totally feel you too. Like, I was walking the other day and this kid comes walking out of their house and they're not paying attention at all. They're looking at their phone the whole time. Oh, it's the whole time. Nearly walks in front of into me. Because your face is in your phone. Like why you're twelve.

Observations on Youth

I don't know, but yeah, I do. I have those same, like, oh my God, they don't have that difference like we do. Yeah, I'm like, just go out and break your leg. Or when I was twelve, like break your ankle on a razor scooter. You know, like do that. Yeah, I had, like, I had a personal laptop at the age of six that was, yeah, that was unknown at our time.

Childhood Technology

That's insane. But I did, I had my own laptop at six because my mom just, you know, she did what she did. So I had my own laptop and like, but I had also like, I love going outdoors. I love climbing in trees. I am a monkey. I embrace that so much. We got, we got ed on here. How's it going, Eddie? It's going well. I wanted to bring up the fact that it's only been in recent times that somehow, for some reason, we disconnected ourselves from being part of nature.

Nature Disconnection

I mean, we separate. We call nature and then we are separated from that, which is pretty strange. We don't think of any other species that lives on the earth is being separate. And so we never feel like we're really in nature no matter where we are. I mean, when we're communicating with each other right now, we're sharing our nature, the nature of ourselves, just like the symbiotic relationships that nature has.

Lessons from a Child

And we don't often appreciate that. You know, I met an eight year old boy a number of years ago, and I live in a kind of rural ish, suburbanish college town, some farms mixed around, some conservation lands, some mountains, whatever, and a lot of colleges. And I went to my farmer's market one day, and there was an eight year old kid there, and his parents were buying something to booth. And I was standing back and I said, how you doing this morning? And he goes, oh, I'm doing good.

Child's Perspective

It's nice to be here. And I said, oh, yeah, where are you from? And he says, well, I live in New York City, but I love being out in the country and I love real food. And, you know, I don't. I like to think about where my food comes from. Instead of like a supermarket. I like to think of it personally. And he says, you know, when I'm in New York City, I have nature all around me.

A New Perspective on Nature

And that kind of shocked me. And he goes, yeah, I like walking down the sidewalk, and when there's a crack in the sidewalk and there's a little plant growing out of that crack, as somebody mentioned earlier, I like saying hello to it. I like acknowledging it. I like appreciating it. It's around us everywhere. I like when I'm more in a environment where I'm surrounded by more than the built environment, but even that's rather nature ish.

Nature's Community

Birds make nests. Ants and bees make incredible hives and communities, and even the soil and the microbes in the soil build community, build roadways, build communication. And he says, I like to eat. The other thing he said that was, I like to recognize what my food is and not by what it's called. You know, I mean, we call, you know, they want to separate us from nature. And you eat fruit loops or you eat Coca Cola or you eat a big Mac that doesn't acknowledge what it really is, the nature of that food.

Inspiring Young Minds

And it was just really inspiring to hear this kid that grew up in New York City have such, at eight years old, have such a profound relationship with himself within his ecosystem. And it, you know, it was really taught me a lesson about, you know, because I never really lived in a major city. So I think that's where we have to start thinking is, you know, that we are part of nature.

Reconnecting with Nature

And I, the people we know are all part of nature, and we have to start appreciating that. It wasn't until I think she did it in the 1950s or sixties for many years. Nature, we thought, was competitive instead of collaborative, and it wasn't until Lynn Margulis, who was at one time married to Carl Saganda. She's a microbiologist, and she was the one that really talked about our symbiotic relationships and that all of nature has symbiotic relationships.

Collaboration in Nature

It's not as much competitive as it is collaborative. And she was slammed for saying that for many years, but she was a very strong woman and she kept pitching it and explaining it. And it's really only recently that her work is now recognized and taught at universities. So I'll end it there for now. But that's one of the profound things that I find is we constantly separate ourselves from nature, and I think that's proven to be at our detriment.

Bringing Together Perspectives

I love that. Regardless of where you're at, if you're in a major city, there's always a connection to. To nature. I forget that, too, because it's like you can have these constructive buildings or skyscrapers and the microbes on the ground, the ants, you know, these are. These are networks, these are communication rails for insects. These are for animals. These are a whole world that we don't even really see. It's great to have that perspective.

Nature's Resilience

I love that. Alejandro, you gotta. Yeah, it just hit me right now, you know, being here in Florida, like, not only does, you know, I posted a little gif from Jurassic park, you know, life finds a way. It's not just like. It's that. It's the fact that we are still at the mercy of Mother Nature, which is scary, but also, I think, beautiful because, I mean, I, you know, we got, let's see, hurricane Helene that ravaged, you know, Florida, North Carolina, especially Asheville.

Weather's Impact

And then you have, of course, Milton, which, thank goodness, most of Florida family and friends of mine, we're all fine, but, you know, we're so busy with their lives that we can underplay the importance of nature or Mother Nature, but then mother Nature just like, say, hey, I'm back. Like, you know, fuck around and find out. And, you know, it's. It's kind of. Everyone's at the mercy of everyone. Every.

The Human Connection

Everyone's focused on it. And I don't know, until, you know, depending if you believe in the conspiracy theory of weather, climate control or whatever, if we ever control the weather, that's not going to change. So I don't know what brought this up. Maybe the symbiotic respect that you were talking about, but. The ED. But, you know, maybe there's something there as well. Maybe just that, you know, we learn as our advanced hominid monkey selves, if you will, to still, you know, not piss nature off, I guess.

Navigating Human-Nature Relationship

Yeah. I mean, I'm glad you mentioned some of the weather controlling me, too. I didn't want to be the one. I know we can talk about harp. And. This politically driven weather control. That's. What did I say to the meeting the other day? I think it was politically driven weather. I think that's what I said. They're like, I've never heard that. I'm like, oh, my bad. Yeah, no, I definitely agree.

Connections between Nature and Society

You know, some of the, I guess, nature and that aspect is regardless, but some of it is, you know, I guess, implemented, but, yeah, that. Yeah, I was gonna actually ask that Florida for you since you're out there. So everything is good with you, Ryan? Alejandro? Yeah, no, everything's great. Miami, we barely got, like, thunderstorms. My. Yeah, my family and friends that live in Tampa, Orlando and Daytona, like, they're all along the storms path.

Community Resilience

I think one. A few of them are still without power and generators, but all besides that, you know, Florida's built tough and, yeah, you know, thankfully, it wasn't anywhere as devastating as people thought it would be. Or, like Asheville, where towns were washed away. It seems like every. Everyone thinks out fine, except for now, you know, people that lost power or doing the routine that we used to as Floridians, just sleeping with the generator on, or hopefully.

Nature's Impact on Society

There you go. There's another cool thing about nature, the violence of nature. You know, your neighbors, who you may never speak to, maybe they have extra power and extra line for the generator, and you're like, hey, neighbor, you know, can I get some power or do you need some power? And it brings out the best in us, so, you know, that's cool. But, yeah, to answer your. That's a long answer to your question. Everyone's cool.

Community Supports

Everyone's fine. Thanks for asking, man. Florida's going to recover pretty quickly on that front, so. Good. Yeah, that's always a concern. You know, using, like, not using, but weather. The weather kind of displaces a lot of people, but like you said, it also brings people together in certain tragedies, I guess, to say, or certain events. We've seen this with various, I guess, hurricanes in the past, you know, say, like Katrina or.

Nature's Role in Community

There's a lot of, like, support for the community that's important. And, yeah, that's, I guess, the nature, you know, taking its course, per se, is we have.

Human Nature and Connection

We're kind of at the mercy of that, but we're also, I guess, in some cases in control of that as well too, our environments. And if we decide to, I guess, be a little bit more aware of our carbon emissions, I guess, to say, which is also its own backstory for if it's debatable on what that could do, and I have my own two cent on that one. But no, I love that. That's good. I always like having camaraderie, even though it's certain times, but it shows human nature and our ability to connect. All this is just physical goods or it's very materialistic in this world and nature lives on beyond ourselves. So, you know, it's good to know that, like in tough times that we stand together, you know, and that's, I guess, human nature in that sense.

The Balance of Nature and Human Interaction

But yeah, I was gonna just add is that, you know, regarding the question can healing with nature optimize your well being? Like in this case, nature is causing problems. But, you know, on the flip side, after nature does its, you know, its damage, let's say a hurricane, tornado, exactly what, you know, both of us are talking about. Like, it reminds us who we are, how fragile we can be as people. And, you know, we thankfully decide, well, most of the time decide not to kill each other for resources. We decide to help each other, at least from my experience, you know, but I guess depends on certain factors and maybe times of history. But anywho, I'm not going to go down that hole. But yeah, for the most part, it's like it brings us the well being. Nature kind of just slaps us, but we experience well being after the fact. So I guess that's a way to flip the script.

Understanding Nature's Cycles

Well, I think something we have to understand and respect is that there are cycles to everything. You know, the sun's not going to be out the whole time there it. We go through our different seasons. Seasons, and they all serve a purpose. Like, these cycles are necessary and they serve a purpose even though they seem to inconvenience our lives. But we're the ones that built on homes in Florida, which, you know, can sink into the ocean at any time. And all these homes are built on earthquake fault lines. And the same thing. It's like, you know, Mother Nature is going to happen. And I just, and I spoke on it in this episode, the last episode, last one, and it's really stuck with me about like humans have tried to dominate nature, try to see it or have seen it as a competitor, and that we need to see nature as a companion and something that we can work with. There is not going to be a control over the weather systems and the.

Plastic Pollution and Responsibility

How tectonic plates move and stuff. However, there can be control over things like plastics, which, you know, research is showing us now, the microplastics in our food, in our clothes. Like, it's in us. Guys, it's in your brain. Go find the research. Like the plastic? Yeah. So we decided that plastic is this great thing. It helps us with our modern day life. That's wonderful and amazing, but it doesn't break down, it doesn't decompose. And so, and it's taking hundreds and hundreds of years, and it's just turning into microplastics that's seeping into the fish, let alone the fish are like, filled with metals. Like, you know, there's all this different kind of pollution. The car pollution, too. They're having all their different kind of effects. And I think, you know, those are the things that we can control, that we could change. You know, maybe we don't have actual solutions right now, but those should be the things that we're trying to control are the things that us, the human man of our time, moderation, industrial world, what we've done to mother Nature, I feel like that's what we need to try to control is our own damn actions.

Waste Management and Digital Responsibility

Like, and, you know, then maybe the hurricanes won't be so devastating in Asheville and, you know, things won't be so unheard of. Unlike blowing out my mind that just happened, that. What did Mother Nature do now? I need to recover from it. Like, what we should be. What are we doing to make mother of nature act like this towards us? Why are we making her go out of. So far out of sync? Okay, my rant's over. No, I mean, yeah, the guy, I guess, to add to the plastic. Just. Yeah. So with plastic, I believe. I mean, I could be wrong here. I should look it up, but, I believe mushrooms can decompose. I mean, I guess there's like a certain type of mushroom, at least to what I've seen. I don't know exact mushroom, but I remember seeing something where mushrooms do decompose. Plastic. I could be wrong, but that's what I. And that's amazing.

Recycling and Responsibility

But we need to do it because as far as I'm aware of, the main way that they're getting rid of plastic is by burning it in third world countries. The United States at least is like, how is the United States recycling its plastic? Right? Is it actually recycling it? Because, you know, there are these news features and everything over in another country of we're shipping all of our plastic there to burn it so that we're not personally affected by that pollution directly. So whoever thinks that we are, I. Guess to add here, since this is actually kind of tying into the project I'm working on. So we're actually working on this, I guess, like high level here is what we call digital product passwords. Essentially. The EU is making this mandatory by 2027. It's proving from manufacturer or source in a sense, source to end of life products.

Starting the Conversation

And thanks, Ed, for helping her find the chat. We're all new. Sometimes we need help when we're in new spaces. Right. But, yeah. Did also, I wanted to ask a question to y'all. Real quick, because we've been talking a lot about, I'm sorry about my daughter, but we've been talking a lot about recycling and my daughters, too. I'm very nervous about her watching kind of modern kids tv. So one of the only things she watches is Mister Rogers. And there's been several episodes on Mister Rogers talking about recycling. And I just one image comes to mind where he's going to a recycling center and it's bustling with activity.

Reflections on Recycling and Engagement

And there are people, you know, in and out and just people from all over that community bringing in their recycling, you know, willingly, on their own accord. Now, I think at that time, you got some money, you know, when you brought in cans and you brought in glass bottles and you got some money back, and it seemed like because there was some small but financial incentive, that people were very interested in doing it. And I guess my question is to you guys, do you think, because, again, I don't have all the data and all my research and all the stuff I know about things we can recycle, things we can't, how it's good, how it's bad, what that industry is doing? I have a lot of stuff I could say, but without having the information, I don't want to speak to it. But my question is, do you think that given all that, if there was a financial incentive, do you think that people would be more engaged with recycling?

Challenges in Recycling Practices

Or say, if, like, I worked at pizza places for a long time and we had big pizza sauce cans that were aluminum and we just threw them straight into the trash. Right. They didn't recycle them. They weren't required to recycle them by law. So, like, I'm just wondering if you guys think that having either financial incentives for a citizen or having sort of legal requirements for businesses would help us to recycle better. If I can jump in here quickly, Sarah, I absolutely agree. It's, it is what it is that we're motivated as humans by financial incentives. And, you know, obviously there are things we do out of goodness of our heart, not everyone.

Self-Motivation and Financial Incentives

But at the same time, like, I'm just thinking if I was unemployed or if I had extra time, a side hustle, and I could make money just like, you know, doing exactly what you're saying, or I used to be, of course I would do it. I mean, otherwise I wouldn't be as, how should I say it, as incentivized to shuffle through refuse, you know, to do it just because, oh, I feel good to do it that day. No, I want to take care of my own trash. And that's it. Like, don't get me wrong, I've done community service stuff before, you know, but it's like you really have that more of a reason to do so. And, yeah, there's a need.

The Role of Financial Motivation

The need is I need money, I'm struggling, or I'm not struggling, and, you know, everyone's happy, so I. Yeah, I would be 100% for bringing back programs like that. Yeah. If I could step in. Y'all have to agree. I live in downtown LA, and there's trash everywhere, but what you won't find. Is. An empty water bottle anywhere. And that's because the homeless and many drug addicts, unfortunately, as well, use these water bottles as sources of income, I think, la, I don't know what the amount is, but it's somewhere like a five or ten cents a bottle.

Environmental Concerns with Plastics

So it's unquestionably that you can use the powers of financial motivation to dictate behavior, you know, works almost everywhere. And the other thing I was going to mention was, I'm a polymer science engineer. There's a few colleges in the country who specialize in that. And, you know, the plastic story is a lot worse than, you know, than what mainstream media kind of talks about. And, you know, there's the plastic itself, and that's typically what's known as polyethylene terephthalate and polyethylene. And these are the two plastics that leach into the water. But when you make these bottles, you add many additives to the plastic and the things called plasticizers and stabilizers, and these have much lower molecular weights.

Health Risks of Plastic Consumption

And so the lower the molecular weight of anything, the more likely it is you can think of it as the size molecular weight correlates to the size of something, typically. So very low molecular weight compounds make their way into the water, and then they have very, they're very active, and they have active sites on them, and so they make their way into the body, and probably, you know, they cause all kinds of harm. In fact, none of these plastic, you can't consume any of these plasticizers above a certain level. They're all known carcinogens without any doubt. So, you know, plastic companies get away with this by making the argument that the absorption of these plastics are below some threshold level.

Personal Practices to Avoid Plastics

So it's a. I've avoided, you know, plastics my whole life. I avoided the microwave. Avoid the microwave at all costs. Anyone who uses microwave is just a. At this point is a fool. And why they're in every. Why they're still installed in every new home is bizarre. So if you have a microwave, unplug it, get rid of it. If you use plastic, minimize it. I'd say I'd rather do without water than drink water out of plastic. You know, get yourself a nice filter at home. It's super cheap. You know, a few hundred. It's not super cheap. A few hundred bucks.

Essentials of Home Wellness

And these filters, these carbon filters last for years. And, you know, look, human beings, we're not meant to walk around water bottles, right? Think about it. Why I don't understand the obsession with water. Drink your water when you have, when you're home resting, when you start the day, when you end the day. When I was a kid, I would play 18 hours a day. And we never thought once about stopping for water. Never once. And to this day, I can go hiking for the entire day. I don't carry water bottle. You don't get dehydrated. You drink water when you wake up in the morning, you drink water when you're done with the activity and do it at home.

The Benefits of Nature for Health

So anyway, that's my Saturday morning input on this. Thank you. Oh, thanks so much for sharing. Definitely agree. Yeah. Avoid the plastics or minimize as much as possible. Folks, it is about to be 930. Justin, I think we should probably take a mid break. You know, go get a snack for yourself. Step away from your text for a second. Oh, okay. Okay. No, yeah, maybe we can reset the room here, maybe go back into what we're originally talking about.

Promoting Healthy Discussions

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Emphasizing the Importance of Nature

I'm excited to come back every week here and talk to you guys. Familiar faces as well as new faces. Bumbo's family's here too. We had Esperanza here last week. One of our best friends. It's good to have our besties together, but yeah, let's get back into nature. Can healing with nature optimize your well being? And that's, it's a good way to, you know, I guess ground yourself in that sense. I guess to add a little bit of what that sounds like for me would be like force bathing.

Discovering the Benefits of Forest Bathing

So spending time in the forest setting, immerse yourself with sights, sounds, smells, you know, this lowers your stress, improves your mood, enhances your immune function. So that to me is important to, you know, just go in the woods, have some time for yourself. You know, like I mentioned, grounding, you know, walk barefoot, walk in the grass, walk in the sand, walk in the soil. You know, just reconnect with yourself. Energy is there, this energy that is around us. It reduces our inflammation and improves our sleep.

The Vital Role of Sunlight

So huge. And also sunlight, you know, sunlight's huge, you know, vitamin D, you know, we take a lot of these vitamins, our cells, supplements, but, you know, the sun is out there. If you're lucky, you're in a very sunny state or sunny country, sunny anywhere in the world. Go outside, enjoy vitamin D, you know, it helps your bones, helps your immunity, and makes your mood better. So, you know, of course, smile, you know, if you can, especially with the sun.

Engaging with Nature Through Gardening

You know, gardening, this is huge. If you're able to and have the ability to garden, be sure to create your own little garden, a greenhouse, just plant some seeds somewhere, you know, even have a little plant in your house. That to me is important too. Like, have some plants. I have Aloe, you know, have some, you know, herbs, if you could. I just ordered some Mushrooms. I'm gonna have some mushroom kits. Not magic mushrooms, no, psilocybin mushrooms.

Nurturing Your Own Botanical Space

But these are, you know, like lion's Bean, Turkey Tail. I like these TyPes of mushrooms. We have some Pink Oysters coming in, so. But, yeah, grow your vegetables. You know, that's part of your bIome, you know, to create, you know, if you're having your energy and your body and the soil, your plants are growing to you like they grow for you, so be sure to be a part of their lives. You know, the plants, you know, are important for US to consume that if you grow yourself as amazing.

Integrating Herbal Medicines

So I love that HerbAl Medicine. If you guys are natural, like natural herbs like chamomile, lavender, echinacea, I used to call echinacea. It was like Sonic the Hedgehog can support your physical health and emotional balance. So be sure to, if you can have some Herbal MeDiCinE, you know, herbs are important in our lives. I have my herbs every once in a while. You know, if it's a tea, you know, loose leaf tea, if you could. Having, you know, box tea is not the best, but obviously tea in general is good.

The Soundscape of Nature

And then, you know, nature sounds and meditations that add to Alejandro. You mentioned, like, the sounds of nature. If it's water, if it's the forest, the birds, you wake up in the morning, hear the birds chirping, if you have, like, chickens or roosters, you know, like, waking you up like cockadoodoo, you know, like, oh, Jesus, wake me up. You know, the sounds of animals are important, you know, even just my dogs, just like, you know, making their sounds and run around, you know, swimming, if touch on swimming, you know, nature of natural water, you know, going to the ocean, lakes or rivers.

Importance of Swimming and Nature

Swimming in nature detoxifies your body and promotes relaxation. So, you know, be sure to go out in nature, go in the water, you know, especially when the sun's still out and it's still warm. Hey, you know, why not go on a swim? And we touched on hiking and nature walks huge, you know, this helps with your cardiovascular health, reduces stress, enhances overall well being. So, like, just go out nature, go on a hike, go up a hill, you know, hopefully it's like a good nature walk, you know, but I've, you know, I love waterfalls and nature walks up with, I love mountains, you know, I love all that.

Finding Peace in Nature

But, you know, living depending on where you're at, you know, be sure to enjoy a good walk, getting fresh air, outdoor air, you know, open a door, open a window, you know, get some fresh air, get some green space, if you could, you know, improves lung function and boosts energy, and it clears your mind, you know, if you need a peace of mind, go out, get some fresh air, and, you know, but last, I want to add cures if you can. You know, we're not always so lucky as go forge for food out in the woods.

Foraging and Eating Naturally

If we're lucky, you could be able to pick some berries. I love huckleberries, some mountain blueberries, you know, some mountain strawberries I've seen as well, like Portland, the pediatric in the Pacific Northwest. If you're lucky, you know, be able to just eat some fruit from the forest, you know, forge some wild berries, you know, eat an apple or from a tree, you know, like, you don't have to go to the store all the time. If you're lucky. Like California, there's a lot of oranges. You know, maybe there's pesticides on these things as well, but clearly, you know, there's options there as well.

The Nutritious Benefits of Wild Berries

So if you get yourself some berries. I love blackberries. Cascade blackberries, what I call especially blackberries, not the regular ones. Super good, very healthy. It's nutritious and, you know, foster self sufficiency, so be able to pick some berries. Go ahead, momo. What are you doing? Yo, yo. I love everything you're saying. I definitely want to emphasize, like, yeah, the sun some that helped me with, like, resetting, being an insomniac and having the opposite sleep schedule, you know, being a vampire and whatnot, was getting that first amount of sun.

Sunlight and Health

And of course, I had to transition into it. I've been here almost a year, and, like, it took less than that for me to completely switch my sleep schedule from sleeping in the day to now. I sleep at night, and, yeah, I attribute it's a lot to. I was hanging out in the sun so much, like, just when I am up at the end of the day and it would exhaust me. And slowly and surely, I started waking up more naturally earlier and earlier and, like, yeah, like I said, today I woke up at 04:00 a.m. without an alarm.

Adapting to the Sun's Cycle

I didn't want to wake up at 04:00 a.m. today. That's just what I naturally do now. And so. And I do. I had read that, like, the sun, the first hour of the sun is a special blue light that is, like, especially helps us with resetting our sicardian rhythm so that we can, you know, and for me, that's especially something I'm working for my well being. And so, yeah, that's. That was my goal or my driving force to reach that goal. And it really did work. Just, like, letting the sun be on me healed me and helped reset my system.

Overcoming Insomnia with Natural Light

After 30 plus years of being an insomniac and weirdly sleeping at maybe 03:00 in the morning. But, so, yeah, I do. I love the sun. I think. Yes, please get sun if you can. Or possibly get one of those sunlights for your house if you can't. For those people in Washington, I feel for you and other similar areas. Yeah, so true. That's the one thing about moving is the nicest I have sun pretty consistent. It's like 200.

Managing Sunlight Exposure Effectively

I think it's 280 days. It's not quite the 300 Arizona, but, yeah, we got a lot of sun out here, too. Yeah. And yours is a bit more moderate, like, yeah, it's been a bit extreme down here. We had a hundred days of over a hundred degrees this summer. And so it's like, yeah, like, it's not like I can be out in the sun all the time. And, you know, I do want to be mindful of that. I try to get the first sun.

Finding Balance in Sun Exposure

And I do try to get some sun in the afternoon and then later, but not when it's, you know, extremely hot, I try not to go out there so much because that can be dangerous. So there's, you know, moderation for everything, guys. But you are your own best advocate, what's best for you, and I love that our. A lot of people have been touching that, like, connecting with the food. You know, being in touch with your food is healing.

The Impact of Fast Food Culture

Yeah. This day and age, it's like, yeah, you just go get a bunch of fast food. You eat it really fast. You're just so mindless and everything. And I feel like, you know, that's something that I have been prioritizing. That was, like, my challenge this week was mindful eating. And I did do my challenge. I did three times this week of, like, I sit with my meal, and that's it. I am with my meal. I'm eating my meal.

The Power of Mindful Eating

Maybe I'm telling Nori to stop begging at me, but I'm not on the phone. I'm not. Nothing's playing. You know, I don't even watch tv. Like, I don't even really watch tv. Sometimes I'll put a show on, maybe when I am, like, want some background? But hardly ever. So, yeah, it's not like, you know, I really am glued to technology. Like. Like, that's not the kind of person I am.

Breaking the Cycle of Distraction

But, yeah, I do sometimes distract myself. When I. Or I regularly distract myself, I'm eating, and I've been making it a point to I'm just with my meal, and it's a great experience, and you really appreciate your food, and it's like, why can't we. Why weren't we taught to be like this more? Why were we taught to be so rushed? Why were we taught that it's a hustle and a bustle and a muscle? Like, we designed this human world that we live in.

Modern Living and Its Challenges

Like, we're operating on this. Like, it's crazy madness to me. I don't know. So try it. Enjoy a mindful meal. Be in touch with the food. Grow your food. They're amazing, dude. Monica, 100%. Like, I have. So I lived alone from age 19 to 27, and I've always put tv on in the background when I eat. Like, even if I'm not, I don't even look at it, but I just. It's like that company or something.

Self-Reflection on Eating Habits

You know what I mean? And why do I do that? You know? I really. What you said just really hit me because I realized that I'm just kind of on autopilot. I just put stuff on to eat. And that really does take away from, like I said, like, my own thoughts about, you know, gratitude and connection and just that kind of stuff. So thank you for saying that because I'm definitely going to do that. I'm going to challenge myself to say, no, don't put anything on.

Conscious Choices in Daily Life

Just be with your food. Look at the food. Appreciate. Just be in that moment. So thank you so much for saying that. You're welcome. And actually, and it's a challenge. It really is a challenge. Feel uncomfortable. This is how built it is into our mentalities in this modern day world. For me, I just, I know I got it from my mom. I can easily observe, like, you know, that's what my mom did.

Influences from Family

My mom, back in the day, she recorded her tv shows because there's no such thing as DVR. And then, you know, and so for us kids, we couldn't watch tv when we came home because if we fucked up her and her recording on a tape, like, that was, you know, a no. But yeah, so then she comes home, and then she has that thing play, and so. And it's. She's not even watching it. She's not even in living room watching it.

Changing Patterns of Behavior

She's running around doing stuff like. And that's what. That's, you know, I know that's where I learned it from, but I'm, like, looking at that situation, like, I don't prefer to be that way. And so here I am taking that stance. Like, yes, I did learn that way, but it is okay to change. And, yes, he let me know, Sarah, like, how challenging is it to actually just sit there with your meal? Like, no, I'm going to tell you right now.

Shared Experiences with Mindful Eating

I know. I don't know if anybody else does this, but I've kind of gotten to the point with media, like, just as a background. I didn't get any social media until I was 30. It was very hard thing for me to do. I had gotten on Facebook and Instagram and then hunt up for a few years and had to get off of them. And like I said, I lived alone for a long time. I was always just, like, working waitress jobs.

Background Noise in Personal Life

And so for me, I. I'm not as engorged in media as other people and sort of current stuff. Like, I don't watch new movies a lot and new shows, but I always. And again, I don't know if anyone else does this, I will watch the same show completely from beginning to end. Right? So I've watched Frasier like ten times. I've watched Seinfeld. You know, I have a few shows that I, and they're just comfort to me.

The Comfort of Familiar Media

I know what's going to happen. It's not any new information. And I really am realizing that I put it there as a distraction to me to kind of like, shut my mind down from racing and as a, you know, a companion. And that time could be much better used. I've kind of always known that I used it as a crutch to just, you know, decompress or whatever, but I, realizing that it's literally part of most of my meals when I'm at home, that's kind of a big eye opener.

Reassessing Comfort Media

So again, I don't know if anyone else does that, where it's hard for them to watch a lot of new shows and stuff, but they just find themselves putting on the same thing as a comfort and they've kind of settled into that. And I know that for me, that's definitely been something I've just accepted about myself. But I don't know, I'm challenging that now and saying that's probably not the best use of my time.

The Nature of Noise

Well, it's not really all that quiet in nature. I mean, that's why we kind of enjoy it. You know, we take out, we hear the birds. We talked last week about the bees buzzing and the wind. Right now I got a windy day outside and the leaves are still on the trees, so it's pretty noisy out there. And I imagine that's good, that's stimulating, that's connecting. We have a lot, of course, artificial, I guess we would call it, when we think about tv or something.

Rethinking Our Relationship with Noise

And we have a hard time relating the good and the bad of that. But as you just mentioned, some of it can be comforting, a show that somehow you connect with and feel from. Probably could be good. Same as just, you know, you go outside and, I mean, I have the place I used to live a few years ago. We had a lot of crows. And crows are like your local cops, your neighborhood, and they keep the, you know, the hawks and eagles away from attacking the small birds and all that sort of thing.

The Presence of Nature Sounds

And they cruise around the neighborhood and make sure everything's, and they squawk and they can be loud. But that's nature, and that's the nature of us, and we can learn from those things and we can appreciate that. I used to have a, where I was in the back, where I was living. The woman had Alzheimer's and she loved nature. And so what she did is we had incredible amount of bird feeders and hummingbird feeders.

Cultivating a Connection with Nature

And, of course, once we had the bird feeders and hummingbird feeders, we attracted other things. You know, we attracted a lot of birds, but we also attracted a lot of hawks and Those sort of things, birds of prey. And so I could. And there was a big oak tree, was the biggest tree in the back, and I could always tell when all of a sudden I heard all this squawking in the backyard, and I'd look up into the oak tree and I.

The Balance of Nature

There'd be a hawk out there, and then there'd be crows above it, trying to shoo it away from the birds that ring at the bird feeder. I mean, and you learn from that, and you appreciate that. And so. And that can make you feel good. It's a balance in nature. Of course, we want the hawks to live, and, you know, and it's nature's selection. Often, you know, what you want them to do is feed on what natural selection feeds on.

Understanding Noise in Nature

But, yeah, noise is an interesting thing, I think. Of course, that's why we say when we put somebody in solitary confinement where it's silent, that's one of the things that makes people go crazy. So we shouldn't feel bad about noise. But, of course, I guess we could say there's healthy noise, you know, even if it's distracting. I mean, if I'm outside right now and trying to sit at a table and eat and talk, be kind of loud out because the wind is blowing so hard.

The Role of Touch in Our Lives

But that's not necessarily a bad thing. I wouldn't curse at the wind for that. But, yeah, stimulation, emotional, sunshine, all those are very complex and very important. All of our senses are so important, especially touch. I think one of the most underrated senses we have is touch. And we don't shake hands anymore. We don't hug people anymore. It's so rare. I see a couple walking down the sidewalk holding hands or putting their arms around each other.

Building Connections Through Touch

I think that's where it's like, don't touch me. You know, I have my safe space. All that is kind of infiltrated at all. And I think we have to understand, again, the nature of our senses. I'll land it. Yeah, I definitely think that's all important. And I love how you want to distinguish the. The type of stimuli that is definitely true. It's not just the sound. It's, you know, because, yeah, listening to the birds and water running, that.

Nature as a Source of Peace

That helps soothe me and calm my mind. And, you know, they bring, like, higher kind of vibes that I am all down for the. A lot with shows, though. And, like, I totally. I'm with Sarah, even though I kind of, like, I don't regularly watch tv. Like, I'm not a person. I don't have a tv on my wall, and people think I'm weird for that. And I'm like, no, y'all are weird.

Personal Preferences on Media Consumption

I just. I don't have a tv on my wall. I haven't for, like, decades because, like, why? I have a projector. I have a huge monitor. If I want to watch something, I'm gonna, like, throw it up real quick like that and go about my day. But I am, like, you know, relating with Sarah. I would just replay shows. The good place. Oh, my God. That is one of the most amazing series, I think, and I've watched it so many times.

Comfort in Familiar Settings

I love that one, too. Yeah. Yeah. And so. And it's like, you know, I'll watch comfort shows, and sometimes, okay, I'll veer off and, like, let me watch this kind of show, but I'm never watching a new show, and I'm not. I'm not gonna watch shows that are very, like, you're trying to pull my emotion. Like, I don't need that. I have that enough within me.

Navigating Emotional Sensitivities

I have ADHD. I have complex PTSD. Like, I got a lot of things. Like, I already have enough in me. I'm battling against. I don't need you to play with my damn emotions, bro. Dude, you're speaking to my heart because it's, like, people, you know, horror movies and just, like, even in the. When I was younger, like, psychological thrillers and drama and stuff, it's like, I have so much of that in my head already.

Seeking Calm in Entertainment

Like, if I want to be entertained, I don't want to be disturbed further. So, yeah, I try to stay away from new stuff because I almost don't want it to evoke, like, in my entertainment space. Like, obviously, I want to read a book, go to a postcards, learn, and be in that state of mind. But if I'm trying to just disconnect and be entertained, I literally avoid feeling something.

The Influence of Background Media

Right? Because I'm already stimulated enough. So you're like, dude, I totally get what you're saying, Monica. huh. And, yeah. And I feel like it's like that for people, or I feel like it's the opposite for some people, too, where you. It's a part of dissociating and a part of filling that connection and that emotional void that you are not getting within real life, I've had times, like, where I'm feeling like that, too, where I do want it to actually pull my emotions because I feel so disconnected from the world.

Navigating Personal Connections

I am, like, a loner, you know, just that's naturally who I am. So Dustin, like, will tell you. We go out, he's like. He's making the friends for us. I hold down the fort back here. Thanks, bro. But now I don't have them, and it gets hard sometimes. No, it's fine. But, yeah, I do. I feel like that, too. Like, you sometimes you want to disconnect from this world and or feel a kind of connection that is just unfulfilled throughout the day and using tv and or music for that.

The Complexities of Digital Connection

I mean, it is. And again, it's just. It comes down to moderation. Are you dissociated all the time? Do you have to rely on these things? Do you feel like a crackhead if you can't turn on the tv while you're eating food? Like, do you feel like a crackhead if you put your phone over there for 2 hours? Like, if you have those kind of feelings with. When you're trying to, like, have some moderation and have some detachments from certain kind of sounds, certain kind of stimulation, certain kind of anything, if, you know, in those periods, in the cycles of the downtime, if you're having some upset kind of emotions with.

Questioning Our Relationships with Media

Inside you, then you need to question you and your relationship with that thing. Like, that's for your own detriment or for your own help, really? Yeah, I feel it. I'm actually really big on using my phone while I'm in the bathroom, I. Guess to say, while I'm sitting there. So it's, like, really bad. I'm really bad at, like, bringing my phone. If I take a shower, I'll leave it there or something.

Strategies for Disconnection

And I feel like, for me, it's, like, multitasking, but it is good to disconnect and, like, also, like, not having to sleep next to your phone and, like, maybe put it in a different room, that's hard, too, because we don't have alarm clocks anymore, you know? So I feel like a lot of people have. Have not, you know, they don't have alarm clocks, you know, still do it. I told you I don't sleep on my phone.

Creating Healthy Boundaries with Technology

My phone no longer goes in my room. My phone does not go into my room at all. And my wifi. My router has to be in there only because that's where it is. But I don't want wifi in the room when I sleep. So I disconnect it and nothing charges in my room. There's no electric, like, anything around my room. And I feel like I sleep so much better. My phone sits out in the kitchen, like, 1015ft away from me, and I hear my alarm.

Finding Balance in Sleep and Technology

I get up and go shut it off and it's fine. Like, you don't need to sleep with your phone in your room. Oh, yeah. I feel that, like, my ultimate goal if I were to live off grid was I'll have a kind of, like, computer room, per se, outside of my physical home, and then I'll have, like, a jammer in my home that jams all signals. That was kind of, yeah, there's like a little jamming device that I guess, like, casinos use because they, you know, obviously they don't, they want you to get lost and there's no time, you know, all that.

The Impacts of Signal Disruption

So it makes it a little difficult, depending on where you're going, like, to, you know, jamming or forces people to use the Wi Fi signal, which I've seen as well, depending on location. Walmart does this. I see. But, yeah, I feel like for me, it'd be like, you know, there's a lot of these signals that we don't see, you know, if it's Wi Fi, different bands, you know, you could debate on the 5G signals as well, like, how that affects us.

Understanding the Effects of 5G Technology

It does. I feel like it really does. Especially if you go close to a 5D signal.

Nature and Its Healing Effects

It's like, I don't know. It does like it, you know, that's why I telling you, that's why when you go out into nature and you get away from all of these waves, these electric waves, that's how you actually start decompressing, feel more connected with yourself. Those negative emotions start releasing, like, all these good, better feeling things start happening. I don't, I've never heard anybody say, I went out to the woods and it made me feel worse than what I felt before. Yeah, I think. I think for people that are not used to the environment, they might, I guess, debatable. But even when I did bring people that were not used to being in, like, nature, they were very happy because they're like, wow, this is nature. You know, because they're from, like, California and, like, different parts of the United States, they're like, you know, less nature specific. You know, you live in the concrete jungle, so you don't really appreciate nature.

Personal Experience in Nature

But, yeah, I brought my friend to nature and she was like, wow, this is. I want to go back. So it was good to have that, you know, to be able to, like, disconnect. And me personally, recently, I just went out to the woods and had a little bonfire and all that, you know. Luckily, where I go, the Internet doesn't work. So, I mean, to just completely disconnect knowing, you know, I have to go to an actual location based on coordinates. You know, I don't. I can't really use a map. I have to use my, you know, turn on compass to show up, basically. And, yeah, to me, it's like, those signals and wavelengths, like, that frequency, like the healing of nature. You could feel it, you know, it's. It's beyond us. You know, if we could have the, I guess, ability to see it, you know, we'd be able to, like, hone into those, you know?

Music from Nature

And I've seen someone actually make music out of nature, too. They take oscilloscope and attach it to, like, to like a. Like a mushroom or, like. Or some bark on a tree and, like, make is make specific sounds. So nature is there. Nature is speaking to us. Nature is, you know, very aware, but we have to also accept it. We have to also look for and seek it out. I know we push away nature so easily with our normal day. It can easily be just the same as to embrace it as well. So I'm speaking for myself, too, in a sense. It's like, yeah, I need more nature in my life, and I. I guess sacrifice certain things for nature to get to where I'm at in life. But also, I was in nature, and I didn't appreciate it as much.

The Importance of Touch

So it's like, you know, where's the balance? You know, that, to me, is important, is to have that balance of, like, where you're at in life and how nature optimizes your well being, you know? So let's go on the title here. So, momo, how's it going to. I'm on a tangent. That's okay. We love it. Yeah, yeah. Last episode, I was a little. I was kind of back in there. You guys were, like, killing it, you know, Momo and s bronze work have the. Have the reins going on, so you guys were holding the fort down. So that was good. This week's a little. Little on the ground base, so that's good, you know, but, of course, appreciate everybody. I don't know if we're gonna wrap up here in about eight minutes. Ten minutes. I know you have your twitch going on. Maybe shout out your twitch.

Breaking Away from Technology

Yeah. Share your twitch. Oh, yeah, I started streaming. I like gaming, but I do like that twitch has the just chatting features. So I think eventually I'll take people on site, sunset and sunrise adventures with Nordi and me and. But yeah, right now I'm just getting my feet wet. It is neuro spicy healing, neurospicy underscore healing on twitch is my handle, but I will be streaming Zelda tears of the kingdom today. I love talk. I love exploring and making things just like in real life, venturing, see what I can do with these different things and how I can whoop ass over there. Most importantly, how best to survive and thrive. But I really appreciate this podcast and I love that we got to discuss on so much. And yeah, I definitely encourage people, you know, try, take a walk without your phone, you know, sleep without your phone next to you.

Recycling and Environmental Responsibility

Try, try to just break away from technology and break towards nature. You know why? Because we came from nature. You know, like the. What is it? Chlorophyll within a plant. It. It's molecular molecule what I don't know how to word today. It's a molecular structure, is almost exactly like human blood structure. There's one difference. And like, you know, there's just like, I do believe in everything is everything. You know, we do the butterfly effect kind of thing. You know, the item, it flapped its wings over here in Arizona, but Dustin felt the wind up there. And good old Idaho, like, has bigger effects other places. We have to keep those things in mind. Definitely watch your recycling footprint because it greatly impacts nature. And, I mean, I think about it for, I don't even have kids, guys. I don't have kids, but I'm like, what about the kids for the future? Why don't you recycle for your children?

Building Good Habits

I'm just like, why? Why? It's so easy. Like, people rather, because the trash cans right there, I'm gonna throw my recycling in it. Like, just be more mindful. Keep that recycling on you until you see a recycling thing or use less of it, buy less of it, get reusable grocery bags and bring those with you in the store. It's not that difficult to build a habit into doing it. It comes from a person with ADHD. I don't do habits all that well, like, but no, I make sure once I use it, I put it right back by the door. If I don't put it back by the door, it doesn't go back in the car, it doesn't get used. So learn yourself learn your own hacks. Enjoy nature sounds.

The Importance of Touch and Affection

Enjoy the bees. I wanted to add, or, Yvonne, if you wanted to join here, I know your hand was getting a little heavy there. Sorry, we're going off the outro here, but, yeah, I'd love to hear what you guys say. Well, Ed had mentioned something about touch before, and, yeah, I used to work in the NICU at Baylor, and Baylor is probably one of the top two hospitals, I think, in the country. And our director let me teach infant massage because the research showed that premature infants went home six to seven days earlier because they would gain weight faster. And what I know about massaging children in general is that it's not care. It's just pure attention, and the child develops a great amount of self esteem because they feel like someone is giving them their full energy.

Self-Affirmation and Comfort

And so I just wanted to add that because I know Ed has mentioned touch before, and he's absolutely right in the book, touching by Montague is just. It's just amazing for anyone who wants to know anything more about touch, but that's all. I'm enjoying the conversation. Thank you, Yvonne. Yes. Touch is so important. All your senses are. Listen to your senses and don't deprive them. Do you guys ever hug yourselves? I hug myself. Is that weird? I, like, literally, I wrap my arms around myself. I love you, girl. I rub my back like it is soothing. Like, I know I probably sound crazy, but it's okay. Try it.

Finding Solace in Touch

I do it sometimes for comforting. Yeah, if I. If I need it. Yeah, definitely. I've done it. I've done it. It does help. Yeah. And sometimes, you know, that's self gratification. Not everyone has that ability to have validation from others or have the touch, you know? So, yeah, I do agree. You know, pat yourself on the back, you know, say some words of affirmation, give yourself some hugs. Yeah, that's. That's huge. And if you have a dog or something, you know, have your dog hug you. Dogs want to hug you anyways. But at least my dogs. But, yeah, that's. That's great. Yeah, that's. I love that.

The Role of Pets in Human Connection

Touch is important, you know, I do miss that one of those, you know, what are your love language? You know, touch is important. I do enjoy that. And my first thought, it's always. It's spending time with me. So that, to me, is, like, huge. But, yeah, touch is important as well. I put it in the chat, but, yeah, I said, wouldn't it be great if healthcare included massage just as a baseline? Because we know how important it is. And think about it, because so many people, if you're not in a relationship, if you live alone, if, you know, whatever, you're not getting touched, that's severely detrimental to the human brain and can cause a lot of problems.

The Impact of Touch

And so, yeah, I've always thought massage should be a baseline in healthcare. Like regular weekly massage for all people. Well, and I hear a baby in the background. Massage that baby. Use cold pressed vegetable oil. Cold pressed vegetable oil. Okay. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. Nothing, you know, just a healthy oil and you will not be sorry. Children who are massaged as infants grow up to massage their parents. Oh, really? And I would. I've actually been trying to teach you to rub my back. That's so funny. I've been like, hey, touch mommy's back, you know? And she actually has been diagnosed with a rare disease called pompeii.

Coping through Touch

And it's a unique form that you don't know when or if it would start symptoms. So she really just wants to go outside. Funny. We're talking about nature. But, yeah, like, if, and if that ever did occur, it would be important for me to massage her because she would have muscular problems. It's a muscular disease mainly. So, yeah, I've always kind of had that in the back of my mind, but I should probably do. Start doing it as a regular practice. Yes. Remember, she's going to grow up and be a mini version of you, Sarah.

Learn the Healing Touch

Go ahead, Yovan. Oh, no, I just wanted to say that the instructions are everywhere nowadays. I met the woman who did the first research in premature massage and they wouldn't let her into the NICU, the same place that I worked. But years later, they let me in because the head of the department was actually scottish and he was very into natural things aside from medicine. And, yeah, the research is amazing, but the information now is everywhere. You don't have to actually buy a training. You can find it online or find a book, and it's lots of fun. And honestly, it will relax you and you will feel the energy transfer between you and your child and it's just magical.

Family Dynamics and Natural Healing

Yeah. When she was first born and I, we didn't quite know what her diagnosis or her status was, and there was a lot of fear. We hired a sacral worker. I don't remember what it was called. Craniosacral. She's laughing. Do you remember this? Yeah. And it was such an interesting experience. And, you know, my parents, who are, you know, sort of religious people and not necessarily into as much, you know, natural healing and stuff, they were just amazed. And, yeah. So it's very interesting how that affects all people, but especially children.

Touch and our Animal Companions

If it wasn't for dogs, I think we'd even be worse because dogs certainly teach us that, you know, we come in, what do they do? They run up. They smile at us. They get excited. They want to rub us up against us. They want us to pet them. They want to, you know, cuddle with you when you're sitting on the couch. You know, that's touch is obviously very important to them. We know that from pets and animals. So we just have to learn to reciprocate that to other animals into humans because, again, we're part of nature.

Breaking Down Barriers

That is so true. We are part of the animal kingdom, regardless of how much we set up the modern world to separate us. But that's why we want to encourage everybody to break that wall down. I don't. Nori is always there for me. She's always coming and finding me. If I'm sad, she makes sure to get love and just up on me. She's old now. I've had her for ten years. So otherwise, like, she doesn't really need me. She wants her space for me. But if I'm, like, in a space, like she. She knows. She can just tell.

Animals and Healing Relationships

I don't have to. Oh, my gosh, I love Nori so much. I love that you have her. And Ed is such a good point. Like, dogs are such a perfect example of what we're talking about. How important and how much we love dogs and they love us. That connection. And, Monica, you know, your connection with Nori is just like, it's such a clear vision of that. It's weird that people don't get that more. We're not applying that same thing to each other the same way. Like, massage is important. Touch is important.

Intimacy and Personal Connections

How many people in relationships stop offering that, you know, supportive touch really consistently like you would a dog? It's weird. We might be more intimate with our dogs that way than we are with each other. Sometimes. It is. I don't know. When I have a significant someone, I want to be all kinds of intimate. I love touch. Like, yes, but otherwise, like, if I don't have a connection with you, I don't really want you touching me. Like. But, yeah, sure, hugs and stuff.

Exploring Human Relationships

But, like, the intimacy kind of thing. Like, I don't need people in my space like that. But I do feel like. But if you didn't have Nori, think about it. Like, I lived. Like I said, I lived alone for so long. I had a cat for 20 years named Jim and from 16 to 36. So it's, yeah, if I didn't have him, I might not have lived. There's times in my life I might have committed suicide if I had not had my animal. So it's super important. Touched.

Living with Grief and Loss

It is. Yes. Jim was great. He was a good cat. Long life and lucky life with you. They are. Pets are amazing. They're just different. I can speak from my own experience, so I feel like sometimes it's easier to connect with pets than it is with people. Like, yeah, when you grow up and, you know, the people are supposed to protect, you don't. Like, you kind of have a heart. Hard time connecting with people, but at the same time, it's hard as fuck because, like, yeah, we are. We are meant to connect.

The Evolution of Human Connection

We are. Our faces are designed to have conversation in person with people. That's why you have the ears and your mouth is situated where it is and your eyes are. So you can have an in person conversation with somebody and you can really hear them and, yes, connect with them even, you know, physically touch. We are meant to be like that. I do believe that. I also do believe the world is kind of filled with these different kind of obstacles that we learn to manage, mitigate, or maneuver from.

Conflict in Relationships

100%. Yeah, yeah, it's a. Yeah, it's very interesting take, if you didn't have animal, you know, how. How lives would be completely different. Yeah, I feel like my life would be a lot different if I didn't have my animals, you know, and then now I have, you know, I guess, someone in my life now. It's like, if I didn't have the animals before, you know, would have been a lot different in my life. I would have felt a lot earlier, I guess, to say.

Closure and Future Plans

So that's. That's. Yeah, it's interesting to hear that well enough. Momo, you want to wrap up on the hour here? Did we. Do we want to go over a bit more? And I feel like we talked about so much. Yeah, we did. We covered a lot today. Yeah, it'd be good to get a hard stop here. The sun is coming out, and I do want to get out, but of course, we can always run this. We want. Oh, I'm good. Did anybody have any last questions or input? Final words of wisdom from anybody?

Incorporating Nature into Daily Life

How do you incorporate nature into your daily lives or the steps you take to limit your impact on nature? Nothing else to add? I think this is a great space. Aw. We always enjoy having you. Always a pleasure. Alejandra. You have to come to Arizona for the mushroom hunting. Will you get lost on that mountain again? Where? Oh, my God. We'Ll do that. That was so funny. And because of that night, I now have a little light on Nori's collar.

Humorous Experiences

Because of that night. I was like, that one time, I couldn't see her, and I'm trying to find my friend. I was like, I can't deal with both being lost. Oh, my God. Yeah, that was. Esperanza was like, let's go this way. It's over this way. I'm like, no, it's a. Not like I live here, guys, come on, follow me. And then she gets lost, and then we have to go back up the mountain to go find her. Oh, my goodness. I lost my glasses.

Celebrating Small Victories

I found one of those special glasses I found. I was like, man, I lost my. I don't even know where the kind of glasses they were, but they were nice. The neon ones. Yeah, they were like aquamarine or turquoise looking. They're in my car. They're in your car? They're in my car. The whole time they sit there waiting for their friend to come back. Yay. I got my glasses back. I found. Yeah, I'll take a picture and make sure it's the right one, but, yeah, it's in the car.

Community and Connection

Ground score. Yes. No, I appreciate everybody being here. Yuval was here as well. Who else? It was here. Matthew as well. Appreciate you guys. Ed, always a pleasure. Alejandro, Sarah, thanks for coming. I appreciate you. Come back any week. 08:00 a.m. pacific. 03:00 p.m. uTC every Saturday we're gonna have meta talks. Episode four. I think I wanna go back into the crypto side of things, all of blockchain technology, so maybe we can talk about Refi.

Reflections on Nature

I think that's another subject that we're, you know, it's becoming a hot subject, so I think that'd be cool. Talk about Refi and. Yeah, so parting words from you, mama. I wanted to leave the space with a quote. And I also like, aren't you going to rap on the space like you didn't last week? And I thought about it all week long. I was like, what the fuck, Dustin? Okay, all right, let's do it. And so that I wanted to, like, share.

Nature and Belonging

Chief Seattle is actually his name. The earth does not belong to us. We belong to the earth. And I think that speaks to a lot of what everybody was sharing and all the different experiences brought in. Let me wrap on this one. Beat this one. It's just easy because I know the beat. So let's just do that. Thanks, Dustin. All rap held out. I know. Don't make me drag you by your feet into it.

Musical Expression

That's not the beat. That's not the beat. Yeah, no, I mean, because I rap all week. It's just like, rap. Okay, let's go. Everybody's back from meta talks. Episode three. Can healing with nature optimize your wealth? Being we out here with the momo mirror, spicy and Sarah, the family. Alejandro coming back with Ed. But you know, with the ref, I mean, we aggregated Noah, what's the name?

The Future of Nature

Reagriculture is the name a one marketing with the pros of these four. That's my family. Alternatively, what's up? Claire Walker coming back to crypto main in the back too with the deal. That's my family. Josiah is my co founder with the NFT zoo with Kim Gage Killua Bodyguard NFT radio to with dance down, I'm calling everybody's name out. Either come back in this space, we give you our warm embrace and hit the bottom corner of the space.

Scheduling Future Talks

And be sure to let everybody come back from better talks. Episode four is at 08:00 a.m. pacific time standard 03:00 p.m. uTC on every Saturday. So I'm coming back and Bobo going to go on that twitch stream. She's out here with the Zelda. With Zelda, is it Zelda. Zelda with the game you play. You're playing the second one, right? I'm not sure which. Hold up.

Concluding Thoughts on Nature

She's playing the kingdom. Zelda is the game though. We're out here. Meta talks three can't even be a with the nature. Optimize your well being. That's okay. Coming back to see us on this screen. Everybody in the space is x spaces you feeling? Coming back with 03:00 p.m. uTC. 08:00 a.m. talk about re agriculture, talk about the healing properties, about food that you consume, that you breathe every time.

Final Goodbye

Wake up. Hopefully you decommission the plastics that you consume bpas to the only other way that you can consume, I guess is if you want get the microplastics in your brain and hopefully you don't need to do that. Feeling like your brain is not contextualize the words you have to say. That's how my brain when I wake up in the morning be like, hey, I need to say these words upon the meta talks in episode three. Feeling me. Can you heal the natural optimize your well being is you gotta hear every week.