Luma Inner Circle: Heather Cooper (@HBCoop_) & Chikai (@lifeofc)

Space Summary

The Twitter Space Luma Inner Circle: Heather Cooper (@HBCoop_) & Chikai (@lifeofc) hosted by LumaLabsAI. The Luma Inner Circle Twitter space featuring Heather Cooper and Chikai delves into the transformative realm of AI, exploring its impact on industries, creativity, and ethical considerations. Discussions revolve around the practical applications of artificial intelligence, fostering innovation, collaboration, and addressing societal challenges. Experts highlight the importance of continuous learning, adaptive strategies, and the evolving landscape of AI-driven solutions. The space offers a deep dive into the future implications of AI in healthcare, creativity, workforce dynamics, and societal progress, emphasizing the need for responsible development and ethical AI practices.

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Questions

Q: How does AI impact different industries?
A: AI revolutionizes sectors like healthcare, finance, and entertainment, boosting efficiency and innovation.

Q: What benefits does AI offer for creative endeavors?
A: AI enables novel approaches to problem-solving, sparking creativity, and pushing artistic boundaries.

Q: Why is continuous learning crucial in the AI field?
A: Adaptation to AI advancements ensures professionals stay relevant and effective in leveraging new technologies.

Q: How can AI enhance collaboration and efficiency?
A: AI tools streamline workflows, foster team collaboration, and optimize resource allocation.

Q: What ethical concerns are associated with AI development?
A: Ethical considerations in AI include bias mitigation, data privacy, and the responsible use of artificial intelligence.

Q: In what ways can AI be leveraged for personal growth?
A: AI assists in personal productivity, skills enhancement, and fostering lifelong learning opportunities.

Q: How does AI drive innovation in business strategies?
A: Businesses utilize AI for market analysis, process optimization, and product development, leading to strategic innovation.

Q: What role does AI play in the future of work?
A: AI automation and augmentation reshape job roles, emphasizing the need for reskilling and adaptability in the workforce.

Q: How does AI contribute to societal progress and challenges?
A: AI addresses societal issues through predictive analytics, smart technologies, and data-driven decision-making.

Q: What are the implications of AI advancements in data privacy?
A: AI raises concerns about data security, algorithm bias, and the protection of personal information in the digital age.

Highlights

Time: 00:15:42
AI in Healthcare Innovation Exploring how AI transforms diagnostic accuracy and patient care delivery in the medical field.

Time: 00:25:19
Creative AI Applications Discussing AI's role in generating artistic content, music composition, and virtual storytelling.

Time: 00:35:57
Future Trends: AI-Driven Solutions Predicting upcoming AI trends in automation, machine learning, and personalized experiences.

Time: 00:45:33
Ethical AI Development Debating the ethical dilemmas of AI algorithms, bias mitigation, and transparency.

Time: 00:55:11
AI: Workforce Transformation Examining how AI reshapes job functions, skills demand, and the future of employment.

Time: 01:05:44
AI for Social Impact Showcasing AI applications in climate change mitigation, disaster response, and social welfare.

Time: 01:15:29
AI Security and Privacy Addressing the challenges of data protection, cybersecurity, and privacy in AI systems.

Time: 01:25:17
AI-Driven Education Exploring AI's role in personalized learning, adaptive teaching methods, and educational technology.

Time: 01:35:40
AI Entrepreneurship Opportunities Highlighting how AI fosters startup innovation, market disruption, and entrepreneurship.

Time: 01:45:22
The Future of AI-Powered Tech Envisioning the future landscape of AI integration in daily life, business operations, and societal advancements.

Key Takeaways

• AI has transformative potential across industries, from healthcare to entertainment.
• Innovation in AI leads to new creative possibilities and problem-solving approaches.
• Exploring the intersection of imagination, technology, and real-world applications.
• AI advancements continue to shape the future of various sectors, driving efficiency and innovation.
• Understanding the practical implementations of AI tools for everyday challenges and opportunities.
• The importance of continuous learning and adaptation in the rapidly evolving AI landscape.
• AI fosters collaboration, creativity, and efficiency in both personal and professional realms.
• The fusion of AI and creativity opens new avenues for artistic expression and innovation.
• AI empowers individuals and businesses to streamline processes and enhance productivity.
• The ethical considerations surrounding AI development and deployment.

Behind the Mic

Introduction

Hello, everyone. Hello. Hey, everyone. I think our audio is working fine, so. Hi, everyone out there. Welcome to Luma's inner circle on x spaces. This is a space where we bring together some of our favorite and most trusted creators from the Luma community for a raw, unfiltered, and unscripted conversation about their creative process and the current state of generative art tooling. Today we're hosting a conversation between Heather Cooper and Shakai. The floor is now theirs.

Starting the Conversation

Heather, are you there? I am. Hello. Hello, everyone. Thanks for coming. Yeah, I see you there. But it says listener, so I was like, I'm not sure if she's on, but you're on, so we're all good. I'm glad. Technically, we're working at least somewhat halfway. Oh, no, but you can hear me okay. I can hear you just fine. It just says listener on my. On my view of my. My phone, but it's all good. Yeah. On Twitter spaces. If anybody in the audience has any problems or anything, let us know in the comments, and we'll look into it. Cool. I think we'll wait just a little bit longer for people to roll in, and then we'll jump into it. But how is your day going, Heather? So far? Has it been eventful or low key or.

Day Check-in

It's been pretty low key. You might hear my kids coming in from school in a few minutes, coming in the front door, but it's been pretty relaxing. Cool. It's been good. I've been, I guess, mainly just creating this morning, just created a new piece and then did some other sort of basic stuff for some projects I have coming up soon. But I'm excited to talk to you. I think we've come from two different worlds within the AI video space, and I think we crossed paths because Luma invited both of us into this, into their. This small group that I think has been a wonderful sort of, like. I don't know, just. It's good. It's a community, but it's more just a bunch of colleagues working together from different segments of the AI video AI space. And I think we come from it from two very different places.

Excitement to Learn

And so I'm actually really excited just to dig in about you and, you know, sort of your history as well as how you found a sort of your sort of, you know, little corner of the Internet here with AI video, with all the education stuff that you do. So I'm actually very excited to learn and sort of explore a new area of this space with you. Well, thank you. I don't feel like it's that exciting. But I'm happy to share any type of insight for people, especially being because I don't have the background that would make you think that I would be involved with AI video and images. So I hope people can take that away, that it doesn't really matter what you or what your background is in, that you can choose something different and, you know, start to learn new things and kind of work on whatever you want, if that's what moves you.

Audience Interest

No, I get. My guess is people find what you do very interesting. From the responses that I've seen come up, people are excited to hear you talk. And I think I was looking at some of your other posts just earlier today and stuff. And you host other spaces, right? Or have you been guests on other spaces or mainly hosting? I did host the space for over a year and I haven't. I know people are probably wondering what happened to our Friday weekly spaces. And I see Salma is here. She was on my panel for over a year. We had a generative AI space every Friday, but I took a hiatus over the summer. Cool. And then have you been a guest often on a show or mainly hosting?

Transition to Hosting

Mainly hosting, but I guessed a few times. I'm happy we're turning the table so that we can learn more about you. And so it seems like we've got a decent crowd so far, but. So let's jump in. I mean, the first thing is maybe just talk about sort of your path. You're sort of a quick summary of, you know, you in your terms of your journey to AI and even before, and sort of start there. Okay, well, it starts. I'm a pharmacist. I've been a pharmacist for over 20 years. And during the pandemic, I learned how to code. I decided I wanted to do something different. I had been laid off several years ago, unexpectedly, and I wanted to skill up just in case to make myself more marketable.

Journey into Coding

So I learned how to code. Did like a six month boot camp at a university remote. And then I started writing online. I wanted to be a tech writer, and I was blogging on medium. Came onto Twitter then to do a writing challenge with ship 30 for 30 to learn how to write better. I was always interested in visual content and at the time, web content that's accessible and inclusive for people, especially with like neurodivergent, you know, issues like autistics, dyslexics, ADHD, those types of things that you have to watch what you make. The way we create content online, we can make it easier for everybody to enjoy. Visual content is great because it goes past barriers, language barriers, cultural barriers, economic, education.

Realizing the Power of Visuals

So a picture tells the brain understands it fast, like 30,000 times faster than text. So I was already interested in visual content when chat GPT came around. I started using it immediately, and I realized the potential that we have this much information. And I just started writing about the ways you could use chat GPT and then all the different apps that were being developed using OpenAI's code and just trying to tell people, look, use this stuff. But also at the same time, I was using AI image generators, I was using midjourney, Leonardo, all kinds of different platforms. So I see that the prompts are the same. For me, speaking to LLMs is similar to speaking to AI image models.

Prompting and Learning

So learning how to, like, finesse the prompt and perfect it and to get the information to speak AI so that it can interpret that was a lot of fun for me. I came on here thinking that I was going to be writing about technology, and I did for a while writing about different tools, but then it pretty much AI took over in my, I ended up just kind of becoming AI. I was on money Twitter before, and now I'm over here. So at the same time, I hired a coach when I first came on here two years ago, and Thomas Haynes, and he taught me how to, you know, build my account from zero all the way up to what it is now. So when AI chat and different things were coming out, I was able to kind of, I knew how the algorithm worked and knew what kind of content to put out there.

Journey of Growth

So building that up and then also, you know, building up like a newsletter and different platforms that I'm on, all that kind of came together, but that was my journey, and I just love to learn. I'm always interested in learning something new. And on top of that, I worked full time, so it was kind of rough. And I have four kids, but I've been doing all this full time. Now I'm free. You know, I don't have a full time job anymore, so this is all I'm doing. So I'm excited about where everything that I've been trying to learn, I want to learn even more.

Issues with Traditional Formats

Yeah, so there's a, there's so many things I want to tap into there, like just go a little deeper. But the very beginning one I want to tap into is that, and I want to ask you more about this. And the context is my son, actually, my older son, has adhd and mild autism and stuff. So I think that part definitely grabbed me. But, you know, in terms of, you know, using AI, both chat GPT as well as images like image generation with mid journey, did you see that as a way to like a new medium for you to be able to communicate your ideas? Because I think traditionally for those type of kids and people with neurodiverse brains, the standard way you sort of do a book report or whatever just doesn't work because that's not how their brain works.

Understanding Neurodiversity

There's other ways you can communicate that will make it easier for them to express because they have the ideas, they have the intelligence, they just can't put in the format that schools have traditionally wanted. So was that journey into those two areas or just the AI part inspired by that, or how does that fit into that sort of journey? Yeah, I guess I haven't thought about it like that, but it does because, you know, I have ADHD and I don't think necessarily linearly. I'm always like all over the place and I get really focused into hyper focusing into certain things. But with Chap GPT, I could go from one idea to the next idea and then kind of backtrack and it remembers the conversation and ask it in a different way or have it.

Collaborative Nature of AI

You know, it's really like having someone there that you just collaborating with and all the LLMs at that point. So it is helpful and I think for neurodiverse people because, yeah, it can explain things in different tones and different, using different types of analogies or, you know, just. It can understand what you're asking it basically. So it's for the most part enabled to, it's able to provide you the information in a way you can understand. Especially. A lot of us are very analytical, technical, kind of like go really pretty deep into a lot of the under the hood stuff with it. So it's the way we're asking the questions, it can answer it where most people can't.

In-depth Questions

They can't follow our logic or what we're talking about and what we're thinking about or anticipating, sometimes offering additional information or telling us why. I ask a lot, why is this, analyze this. What are the comparisons? What are the things that are similar, the things that are contrast? I do that a lot. Yeah. And just thinking about that, I think about my own sort of usage of especially image. And for the video stuff I do is that there's an element like if you had to do that in person with another human being, there's some social anxiety to not want to hurt their feelings and say what you want.

Social Anxiety with AI

And so, but with AI, you just say whatever you want. That sucks. That's good. Give me more of that. And there's, and there's this social anxiety piece which goes away completely because the other side is just, you know, you're just talking to it, do what you want to do. Did you feel any of that where like if you had to do the same things, but instead of bit in AI or on the other side, it was a human being, but you could tell them exactly what you wanted and they just do what you want? Do you feel that ability just to talk in whatever way without the social sort of element to it helped? Or did you even think about that?

Ease in Communication

I didn't think about that, but you're right about that. Where, yeah, it's easier for me to kind of be by myself and involved with whatever I'm doing. And, you know, not really even collaborating with people is great, but for me, I prefer just to kind of be on my own doing because I work at a different pace and it's not always step by step, so I might have to go back and backtrack it. And also I think that the combination, what I love about the LMS chat, GBT, claude, everything, it helps me produce so much more content and it also helps me to produce more visual content where it can break down and give me, I might see something that somebody posts.

Enhanced Learning and Creativity

Muriel, she's posting about Frank Lloyd Wright today I saw and I look at that and I might look at some of the prompts people share and I'll feed that into chat duty and ask, analyze these and give me 20 more using the same characteristics of that and just kind of going through that. So I do this all the time and I can go through that and have multiple conversations a day, and then I can start generating images. And if it's not like I want, I might put it back, put the images in there and ask it, Can you bring out, write me prompts to give me the atmospheric effects of that image where if I was speaking to somebody and trying to learn it on my own, it would take me forever to be able to do that many different things.

Parallel Processes

I might work on six different styles in one day on just images, then I'm doing something else with videos. And then as you're going, I start seeing like, oh, that's cool, maybe I can make that. How can I make this better? And I just kind of go back and forth like that. So it is kind of like it helps out a lot with that and it's easier to kind of converse back and forth. Cool. I mean, it does sound like it's made you more efficient because it works the way your brain works and you can just go over the way however way you want to do it and it makes you faster in terms of just getting more stuff done in parallel or just maybe it's just working the way your brain works because most things you do, like, you know, whether it be, I guess, coding to using applications, there's a certain way of thinking you have to learn and then you can use those properly.

AI and Education

Where with AI, you can do it in whatever way you want and it'll adapt to your sort of style of sort of learning or progressing. Yeah, that's exactly what it is. And like, for education, I think of it as with, like, my kids helping with their homework. They might have twins, they're in the same classes, but they understand it different ways. So I might have, like the. I'll ask the AI to explain something so that I can explain it to them better or to, you know, so maybe my daughter gets it, but my son still doesn't get it.

Personalized Learning

And it just kind of like, whatever pace you're at, you can kind of have. Every kid could have like a, their own virtual tutor. You know, we're not even a virtual. That's like there all the time, really? Because, you know, especially with vision, that's like the best thing that could ever be in there to analyze images, to analyze handwriting, you know, to put like a problem in there. And you can see that. It's just amazing that the teachers are overworked and my parents were teachers and I really respect them and I know that they would try to be able to meet the needs, but this way you can have literally customized learning for everybody.

Childhood Influences

Wow. Wow. So I want to go back a little bit in time to maybe your childhood, and then I'm going to go back to the present and just sort of see that. Talk more about the transition of, or even the parallel path of pharmacist plus educator slash creator. So going back to your childhood, like when you were a kid, let's say I met you in middle school or maybe somewhere around there, someone, you're just growing up, trying to figure out who you are and what you're going to do. What would you have said would be what you wanted to be when you grow up?

Career Aspirations

I want to be what ex. When I grew up, what would you have said? A doctor. A doctor? Yeah. Yeah, I was going to be a doctor. My mother was a guidance counselor at the time, so she convinced me that, well, pharmacy is a good career. You can still have, you know, it's medical. You could, but you could also have, like, a regular life. You won't be on call and, you know, you'll be finished with school sooner. So I said, okay. But, yeah, I wanted to be a doctor. And did that.

Inspiration Behind the Choice

Did that come from a moment where you were inspired by somebody or you just saw, like, just a desire to help or you have a healer type of, sort of core? Like, what was it that sort of led you toward the doctor? I was sick all the time. That was probably. I was like, yeah, if there was something to catch, I caught it. And thankfully, I was able to recover from everything. But I was hospitalized for about a month. When I was about ten years old, I had meningitis. And at the time, they had no idea what it was, and they had me in, like, isolation, and people had to wear full body suits to come in to visit me, stuff like that, vinyl taps and things.

Importance of Healthcare

But, like, for all throughout my life, I was always like, the flu, everything. All kinds of, you know, anything out there, mano, whatever. I always had it. So I was a frequent flyer at the doctor's office in emergency room hospital type thing. But, you know, I recovered from everything, but I always had a pretty close relationship with the doctors and nurses. I wanted to be a nurse at first, and then, I thought, well, you know, I want to be a doctor, but, yeah, so I do. And I do appreciate, too, you know, being so young and in the hospital for that long, and, you know, the nurses and just the people, like, making people feel better, so, yeah, I did appreciate that.

Compassion and Professional Background

Yeah, I mean, that's. That makes sense. I mean, in terms of, like, I mean, because you had so much child experience, which I'm sure was very tough, but, I mean, I'm sure it's also shaped you as a person and in both what you're interested in. But I imagine just from the. From our conversations, both in private dm as well as on Twitter, you have a very compassionate, sort of empathetic sort of personality you can feel and get other people. And so, I mean, that's part of, I guess, connecting with people in that setting is like, you want to help and you help because you can connect with them or can understand what they're going through.

Educational Background and Experience

Yeah, but, yeah, that's. That's amazing. And from there, I mean, that sort of leads to the pharmacist side. Like, has there always been this parallel element, because you mentioned your parents were educators, and a lot of what you do in the space lends toward teaching and helping others, which, again, so I think ties into your sort of the doctor element and the healer element. Like, has that always existed in parallel, or do you think that came out because of AI, because it gave you a window into doing these things you couldn't do before just because it just wasn't possible given the daily life or just circumstances or, you know, basically, is it parallel or did it come later?

The Role of Family in Education

Well, one, it was like two tracks where my mother was an english major in literature, so we, I started reading really young, like three years old somehow. She said, I taught myself how to read. Don't remember that, of course, but she would have us do book reports every week, me and my sister, and we would do book reports, read a book, and do a book report every week. But she instilled in us a love of reading. So I've read, you know, I've read thousands of books, and I've always had an active imagination, and I'm not an artist, but my imagination and creative writing.

Creative Aspirations

I love creative writing, but when, you know, you go to a medical field or StEm field, it's difficult to do much of that when you're going through those types of programs. So I always kind of wish that I was able to do something that was a little bit more creative than pharmacists and memorizing, you know, a lot of stuff. But as a pharmacist, I've worked in a lot of different areas, practice settings. I've worked in retail stores. I've worked in a hospital, like ambulatory center, and not just like any hospital, ambulatory, like the biggest hospital in south Florida, Miami, where my patients that came in were people who were indigent and up and people that you might step over to get to.

Healthcare Experiences

They're sleeping on the ground, and they would come in and be waiting in line to get their medication. So learning how to see people for what they are and see people, regardless of their situation, help me, like, speak to people. And as a pharmacist, you know, you can go in and ask your pharmacist questions where you can't go to the hospital or the doctor and ask them. So I'm used to answering all types of questions, and a lot of times, people may not know what they want to tell you or what they're trying to describe. So I'm just, I picked up a skill a long time ago of understanding what people anticipating what they were talking about or just trying to read between the lines and understand what they needed to know in order to find some, whatever, tylenol or something like that for pain or fever.

Listening and Understanding

You can't always describe what's going on with you. So if you're a decent healthcare professional, you're at least listening to understand that. So I take that into what I do now, and I pay attention to what people are commenting and what people are posting to see what is it. Maybe somebody asks a question in a reply to one of my posts. So then I start working on the answer for that and post that. And that's basically what I just kind of do. That. Plus I have four kids, so.

Balancing Family and Work

I have two kids, so I cannot imagine four kids and then two of the kids being twins. Yeah. I have a very good college friend who I think has a similar sort of kid has twins and then two other kids. Just, you're outnumbered. So I was wondering, like, I love that story about learning that skill, about just listening and reading between the lines and knowing what people are searching for because they need help. They just can't describe it because you don't have the vocabulary, the words, or it just, it's something hard to communicate and to apply that in the space.

Future Discussion on Education

And I imagine that's true of just, you know, your journey and stuff. And I want to sort of dig into what you're doing now a bit more and with education stuff, but I want to, I'm curious to know if you consider yourself or you see yourself as an educator, an artiste. Like, what role do you see yourself within the space, within the AI videos or to create a community side? Like, I mean, do you see them as both or one more than the other? I see it as both.

The Joy of Creation

But then I, there's so much, I'm always creating stuff and there's so much that I haven't even posted, I haven't shared with anyone that's just sitting there. So it's like I get joy from creating and finding new ways, new types of, just new types of things to do where I can. It's like cracking the code every day of like, oh, now I can get that effect, or now I can see that, or if I see someone else's. And it gives me an idea to look further. But I think that a lot of people, I recognize that most people don't spend as much time as I do on any of these tools. So I figure, well, I'll use all that practice and everything I've done to try to share some tips and things that might help other people and tools.

Perspectives on Creativity

Yeah, I think that a lot. I mean, from what I've seen, there's a very strong response to that in terms of what you're doing. And I come from purely more of a creative perspective and more just creating something and expressing something. And the tools are there to help me along the way. But you definitely from just watching you and just talking to you have a very broad sort of just knowledge base of all the tools that are out there and are fairly up to date. I mean, when you look at it and looking at from one perspective, you can look at all these tools like, how am I spending all this time? Dig into it. There's another tool that comes out and do I need to dig into that?

Excitement Over Tools

There's something where you're different, where I'm, and tell me if I'm right or wrong, that when you see those things, you are excited to dig into it and sort of learn about it. And like I said, crack the code, where some people are just, I don't have time to do that. That's not what I want to do. Like, what do you think about your, what do you think it is about your personality that allows you to go that direction where most would just walk away? I think it's a combination of, like I said, I love to learn things and I love to gain skills and especially for things that I'm really interested in, that's when the ADHD is like a superpower, basically, because I already have that energy and I don't get sleepy, I just keep doing what I'm, if I'm interested in something or I'm really, if I'm down a rabbit hole, I'm down there.

The Challenge of Focus

And it doesn't matter how many hours I'm there. And I might not get something else done, but that helps because I can just kind of do a lot more than most people would kind of get tired and go, you know, but it hurts sometimes because I might forget to eat or something like that, you know, to me, or I might like, I haven't drank any water today, something like that. But yeah, so, and I, there's a lot that I would like to try and I haven't had a chance to. And at first it was not that many tools. I could keep up with the majority of things and things just kept exploding.

The Evolution of Learning Tools

And now that, I guess once you worked with several different types of video models, it's easy to learn a new one or to test out a new one because I spent so much time on, you know, different ones. So, yeah, I think it's kind of a combination of, it's not necessarily like FOMO, but it's just sort of, oh, I see a shiny thing. Let me get busy. Right, right. I mean, I totally get that. I can, I, I definitely have that same sentiment where when you're really into something, the more you do it, the more energy you get versus getting tired.

Cross-Media Skills

Whereas for me, socially, like, if I socially have to go to a party, it's more taxing and I get tired. Whereas if I do this stuff, I don't get tired, I gain energy, which sort of like the definition of an introvert versus an extrovert. Yeah, yeah, me too. So I want to dig into the different tools that you go through and just learn a bit from that, because that's one area where I think I would learn a lot from you. But as you look at just one, just to give a general coverage of what you focus on, is AI video where you think you spend your most time, or do you also spend a lot of time on image enters, like, mid journey and stable diffusion and all that kind of stuff, or what parts of the AI ecosystem do you tend to focus on?

Focus Shift to Video

It used to be probably more the images, but now it's more video, because after becoming pretty comfortable in pretty, I think I can. The prompting and being able to generate whatever I want from mid journey or any stable diffusion or flux, I can do that. Okay, now, so I don't spend as much time trying to get a certain look from an image. So now it's more, how can I animate this? And how, what can I do with this or not even animate it, but how can I use this in a way that it's not just a bunch of images?

Utilization of Images

Because I have thousands of images, tens of thousands. But how can, what can I, what else can I do with it? So I have slowed down some with the images a little bit, but then again, flux came, so that's, now I have to try out every single model and Lora and, you know, fine tuning things like that. So it's kind of goes back and forth, but I spend probably 50% of the time with video generation. Cool. And when you use, like, flux and lore, which I think are, tell me if I'm wrong, if they're like, they're open source tools, do you have your own, like, GPU and sort of custom setup, or do you use other platforms that make accessible via, like, web interfaces and more online stuff?

Tools and Platforms

Yeah, no, for now, I don't have the GPUs. I was just talking to AP, they're listening about how I need to get my 4090 so that I can do more. But for now I been using platforms and, you know, it works out well. Plus there's just. It's just been such an explosion where it's been. You can use the Lauras and different models on different platforms and then they've all taken, a lot of them have taken them further and the community is just amazing with all the innovation that's been happening, where it's been integrated onto a lot of different products and brand new things where you could do things that we couldn't do a month ago.

Learning from the Community

Right, and like, where. So where do you use flux and lore, like, what platform do you use to use it? I probably trained the most and used most the flux on foul because I like that flux realism Laura and I've trained quite a few fine tune quite a few lauras on there. But I. What's the name of the platform again? Like, how do you spell it? Foul f a l. F as in frank a l. Okay, foul AI. But replicate. I've been using it on replicate some different demos and models that are set up on hugging face and glyph. I've used on glyph quite a bit. I'm trying to think.

Diverse Platforms and Tools

Kriya now has it in Korea, has the style mixes, so you can use. They kind of put different lauras within there. You can use multiple lauras and multiple styles. So, yeah, I'm all over the place. It's not one place. Yeah, and like, when you do that, like, do you just. I mean, this is just a purely. I'm sort of like, I'm trying to, like, say, I'm going to be Heather right now, and she just discovered Flora Laura. Flux Laura. And you say, I want to know more about this. Like, do you, like, search on Google, on Twitter, like, or do you have places you go to or you ask questions of friends, like, what's that process like, as you say, okay, I want to know more.

Strategies for Learning

How do I get more in terms of information that I need to learn more about this? Well, I ap Miguel there, helps me a lot. And we have a series that we're going to start back up, if anybody's interested. Again, under the hood, we've been doing that just to kind of show people how some of these things work. And with Comfy Ui also. And that's another reason why I need my bigger machine. But just talk to him. I talked to other people for that work on those platforms and just different people in the community learning.

Community Learning

And I might watch a Google, I mean, a YouTube video or something like that, but mostly just talking to people in the community. Cool. And AP is angry. Penguin P and D. I know of another AP who's a collector, so I just want to make sure I'm following the right person. I see Pingu on there, which is my kid's favorite show when they were kids. They're older now. It's a great show because it requires no language. You can basically put it on and have a sound off and you can totally get exactly what's happening because there's, it's all like gibberish.

Helpful Interactions

So I love that show. Well, he's very helpful. That's awesome. And like, that's cool. That's great. I'm at the community aspect and asking questions, I think. And do you see yourself as more of a social learner where you learn through friends or more of like reading books and sort of, or both? I mean, it's interesting, like there's different ways to learn and what works well for your brain.

Personal Learning Styles

Like, you know, my younger son is much more of a social learner. Like the COVID hit him and it was just horrible just because he needed people around him to learn and to have fun learning. And so I'm just curious, like in terms of you, like, do you see yourself as what's your learning style? No, I'm probably more just finding it some kind of way where I'll google it or I might search on like perplexities because it gives, it brings back visual answers.

Resourceful Learning

So that's helpful. It even gives you links to YouTube videos. Or I'll just search on YouTube to see what people, somebody's definitely talking about what I'm interested in on YouTube. So. And just kind of going to the docs for those. Yeah. And do you see your do, can you read docs and understand or. Yes, like no. Yeah, I learned how to code, so like a full stack web development.

Understanding Documentation

So yeah, learning like JavaScript and how to use all different HTML libraries and all that stuff. Definitely. Learning the docs is the first thing I want to do is kind of dive in there a little bit to get an overview and then start. Yeah. Using it. Yeah, I do a lot of coding, but I always have. I don't, my brain doesn't work properly to be able to read a documentation. I'll use it for reference and stuff. So it's interesting that you can read it, understand it.

Processing Complex Information

Like my wife can read a comment contract and understand it, and she gets it, whereas me, I just minds glaze over in the first few paragraphs. Well, that's actually what I wanted when I came on here to learn how to write. I wanted to because the docs are difficult to understand for most people, and I thought maybe I could write them better in a way that people might understand. And that was my initial reason for writing online.

Writing as a Tool for Understanding

Wow. Wow. Do you write. Do you, like, write for fun, like journaling or any other type of, like, just writing? Because it seems like that's another area in which you, of course, read a lot. But I was wondering if that's another creative outlet for you. No, I don't. I'm not really. I cannot journal. Just really. It's hard for me to do that, just, like, stop and type or write.

Creative Outlets

But I do have a. I do blog on medium, and then I have a newsletter, two newsletters, so. And I write a weekly newsletter. And usually the people in the audience that read it, they know I write. There's a lot of information usually in each newsletter. I try to fit as much stuff in there, and I know it's probably wears people out, but I try to just give a little summary of different tools that I found that I've been using and show demos and talk about the different things that are out there in giving people tool list, like, cool tools to use.

Engagement through Writing

Yeah. Workflows, that's. I mean, you can find all those off of your tiny URL that's on your profile. Mm. Well, I have my website. Go to the heatherbcooper.com. Okay. Yeah. And I have. Yeah, I have two newsletters. I'm on YouTube and medium. Haven't been writing as much medium, but TikTok, Instagram, all that. So I'm all over the place.

Interactive Learning and Sharing

No, I love it. I mean, like, so when you think about digging more, there's one section I want to do in a section which is basically go through and, like, do like a b comparisons, like mid journey versus flux laurels. I'm like that, and I'll do that in a second. But, like, in looking at your role than the space, like, if you looked in maybe a few years from now, just seeing where you are now with all these different channels to teach people, and you have a background with your parents, having been educators.

Future Aspirations

And then I do think that element of being able to listen and hear people and know what they're asking, I think is a huge superpower. I think so. I think that's probably a good source of your success is just being able to listen. Where do you see yourself going next? And is this change, like you mentioned that you just had your last day as a pharmacist recently? Was it on purpose to say, I want to do this and you have a goal in mind or I, is it more just like, here's the time to sort of, you know, to explore a bit more and sort of take a pause?

Career Transition

Well, I was working as a contractor for the past three years and the entire time I've been on X and I kept talking about how I wanted to do this full time and I wanted to like be able to replace my income completely before I, you know, ended up doing this full time and left my job. But the contract ended, so they told us a couple months ago. So I had a little bit of warning and it was like, well, this is, I guess it's going to have to be now, you know, so I didn't like working anymore.

The Path Forward

I was really, I'd much rather do this and thankfully I was working at home remotely to do this job for the past three years. But it, I decided that right now, like, what I'm going to do, I need to replace income, of course. So I'm trying to, you know, think of how I should best do that. Should I, you know, some type of a community or courses. The things that people are interested in paying for are different now and I don't, can't necessarily gauge what that is.

Exploring Community and Value

So, you know, doing some sponsored work and things like that. But for now, I just, I really want to learn all the things that I haven't had a chance to so that I can do a lot more on, like with comfy UI, for instance, and working with some of the tools and then also some of the video, some of the things that are the traditional, like premiere pro after effects, learning that type of stuff, blender, whatever, you know, just using, learning the things that I didn't know to kind of be able to put everything together.

Emerging Trends in AI

Yeah, I mean, I've seen a lot more people doing like cross media stuff. Like a lot of the stuff recently has been more AI focused. But I've seen people do 3D plus AI and, or use them together and, or like just even doing iPhone sort of like video and cross blending that with AI effects and stuff. And so I think that's, I mean, that would be very interesting to learn. Like how do you cross blend them in terms of just taking, not just AI, but how does AI work with all these other sort of mediums that are out there and tools.

Monetizing Skills

So I'd be, I would actually be very interested to see what, where you go with that. Well, also just think, I think a lot of us are trying to figure out how can we make a living from this, what we do. We know we have a specialized skill set that very few people in the world have. So what can I, I know that I can offer quite a bit to different brands and not just for being able to use these tools, but also understanding social media and how, you know, the algorithm and how to create content and post it in a scheduled manner and that kind of thing.

Offering Value through Expertise

I have a lot in writing newsletters, so there's a lot of different things that I could do. And as long as I can, I'm hoping I can find something where it's something I want to get up and do every day and also, you know, make some money from that and to teach others or to at least just kind of, I'm more probably more, a little bit more of a teacher type of person than. Not necessarily. I don't know if I want to make a whole film. I would, but it's also, I get a lot of joy just from the individual pieces I, of it.

Understanding Personal Passions

Yeah, I mean, I think that's a great insight to have about yourself. Like, what do you enjoy? What, what gives you the sort of the energy and sort of get you inspired each day teaching people and helping people, is it, which I think it sounds like it is, both from what you're talking about now as well as what you do. I think that's great. Knowledge of yourself is huge in terms of what to do next.

Planning the Next Steps

But yeah, if you looking at that's, I mean, I, I think that one of the questions I have and then I'm going to do, I do want to talk about the sort of business side and how to make a living side, and then I do want to do almost like, I guess like a lightning round of which tools you like better. Just because I'm curious what you think. But in terms of one thing you said about social media and including that and just communication, for me, it's been a big deal of having social media plus AI together because it gives me a feedback loop of what I'm doing, if I'm doing it well, and also learning and meeting people like yourself.

The Role of Feedback

Like how has social media and newsletters and that kind of stuff integrated with your process? Because there it does create this feedback loop where you're not just working isolation at home, and then hopefully someday some will see it, but you're almost, like, continuously in real time, having dialogue with everybody and using your skill of listening to people, what people ask, you're able to also get a sense of what people want to learn or know. Like, how has that been for you, and how does that flow work for you in terms of your process?

Integrating Community Feedback

Yeah, that's a good question. I think that, like, for the newsletter, I have about 16,000 subscribers, and it's grown. And sometimes I hear from people that I'm not aware of my subscribers, like, somebody from Buzzfeed, for instance, asked me about something and I was like, oh, I didn't know you. What makes you read my newsletter? And she said, oh, I love the creative part that you, I like the creative side that you bring to AI because I include, like, you know, prompts, image prompts.

Feedback and Adaptability

Now, I've been putting video prompts in there and some different little workflows that anybody could use. So learning about that, and there's quite a few, like, I just, I, from the spaces that I was having also weekly spaces. We used to when were starting out, I had a lot of founders and builders, artists, everybody was, it was welcome, and we would just kind of just talk, and we've had some really good spaces.

Building Networks through Interaction

So knowing I have a lot of network of people that I've met over the past as everything was blooming, and we, a lot of us, like Chris Castanova, when she started sharing prompts, we, that was at the same, like, time, like, oh, just share your prompts. Before that, people weren't sharing prompts. It was just kind of like, wow, I wish I could make something like that, but I have no idea how.

Unlocking Potential through Collaboration

But Chris was a champion that, and that made a lot of us start. That's how a way we grew was from prompt shares and workflow shares and just teaching people. Chris has a background of photography and art, so that was helpful to hear their process and how, you know, different terms you would use for image prompts and working and doing things like that. So getting feedback like that, and people appreciated it.

Fostering Creativity in the Community

So, hey, absolutely, I'm going to share and encourage people to share their I results, too, and also taking time out to, like, talk to people, and I can't follow everybody, but I can definitely interact with people. And when I would see, no matter what, you know, size your account is, and just make seeing people, regardless of those account size. So getting feedback from that and learning from those people, too.

Acknowledging Collective Impact

There's a lot of people in this audience right now that I've learned so much from. I could just go down the list of the people that I see on my phone right now. It's just such a great community to be in. I never thought I would find something like that on acts of all places or social media in general, but it's a great community and like, just being able to use these tools to, it helps me a lot.

Efficiency through AI

Like for the newsletter, for instance, I'll say I can get a newsletter out way faster than I could have without AI. And I also do use it for SEO, you know, getting the SEO description tags and the, even the title and things like that. So, or even to reorganize my writing because I can start going on too long about certain subjects. So I'm able to push that out much faster.

Streamlining Communication

It might take me a day or so to write the newsletter where without it would have probably taken me at least a week, you know, writing every day. So those kind of things. Plus, and I do that on top of other things. And just so the feedback from people commenting on, you know, the newsletter or questions they're asking, sometimes I'll put a poll in there to ask, you know, what do you want to, what do you want me to write about next?

Engaging Audience Input

What types of subjects do you want me to write about and just finding out what people want to hear? No, that's, I mean, I think that, you know, hearing your process, that constant communications or the real time communication, I definitely think is key because then it allows you to be very nimble and be able to give people what they want and also learn and figure that out.

Navigating Challenges of Monetization

But I want to go back to a topic that you mentioned before in terms of making a living. Make it with AI and all these tools. And I think there's historically been a living made by, you know, people using, you know, adobe tools to do 3d work or image processing work. There's a lot of stuff that's done that way. And you've sort of touched on this, like, I think, in your pin tweet or somewhere, like creating ads for ad agencies.

Exploring Career Opportunities

And I think there's lots of different ways you could do that. How have you thought about that?

Methodical Approach and Future Thoughts

What's your, because from listening to, I think that you're very methodical and just very well planned out, you know, about everything, you know how to use these channels, and you're very comprehensive in terms of what you've said you've done. So I think, no, that's very impressive. But also, like, you know, it just shows you how thorough you are. So I have to imagine that same thoroughness applies to, as you look forward in terms of what you do and making a living, do you have any opinions or thoughts about both? What you plan to do, but also how this industry, or how this basically this virgin in sort of brand new industry that never really existed before with AI tools, how do you see that going? Where do you want it to go?

Challenges of Measuring Value

I think there is a lack of understanding between people who want to hire our services or use our services or get us to do certain things and fair pay, you know, paying the value of all the hours that we put into learning and mastering these tools. And it's kind of like somebody asked me what would be my daily rate to do something yesterday? And I'm like, I don't know because I have no. I don't have anything to measure it against. And I wish that we could be more open. And if people are earning a tell us, like, could you share it with the community? Like, what are you getting for certain things? We never can tell if it's fair or not. It doesn't feel fair most of the times, you know, and even like sponsored posts and things like that. I mean, it's a lot of time that we put into learning these tools and trying to show others how to use it.

Value of AI in Content Creation

The types of things that people are posting for free right now, they. I wish that they could be paid in more than just for ad revenue on x, but it's kind of like, you know, we're using a lot of different things and I just. I hope that it's hard to say because it's like this. We are in a place where we've never been in the industry, different industries, film industry, advertising industry. They're not used to having access to people who can create things that are completely unique and amazing and mind blowing very quickly and to meet what they want. Another thing is also that a lot of people and potential clients, they kind of think you can create magic where we can, but it's not going to be what they want.

Insights on Creativity and Value Assessment

I don't know if other people in the audience have experienced that. That's where it kind of gets difficult to plan. It drives me crazy because, yeah, I am methodical enough to try to think about next steps, but it is hard because you can't really tell how it's going to pay off. Pay off? Yeah, I mean, I do think that's interesting to say. How do you value this? And I'm sure there's some sentiment thing. All you're doing and typing a prompt so there's less work going into it. But that course, that's not the case. And so how do you educate the businesses who do want your services to say, this is what goes on. You can do a lot more with fewer people, but it doesn't mean the work is any less valuable.

Differentiating Creative Mindsets in Various Fields

So how do you measure that? And it's an interesting dynamic and I'm going to sort of contrast it to my experience, which is more selling fine art and sort of creating stuff that people want to buy from purely sort of like an entertainment perspective where you're sort of selling services and an ability to help others to, you know, I don't know, do product design or do conceptualizations or whatever it's going to be to help people sort of, you know, convey or sell or whatever they want to do within their particular industry. And so it's a very different mindset in terms of each one of those. And I think that. Do you, do you think, I think you've probably touched, seen both those happen.

Creative Services vs. Technical Services

Like, do you have a sense of, like, you know, what would, I know what the right question here is, but what do you think would be the best next step for the industry? Is it to focus on the services side or the creative side? Or maybe it's both. I don't know. It's just like there's these different ways to apply it and you and I are doing it in two very different ways. Yeah, but I would say, but both of them are creative still. Even with the services side, they're asking for something that you have to use your imagination and your own creativity to create, to make something that might fit that in a way that is unique and different.

Creativity and Technical Expertise

Because why are they using, why do these brands want to use AI for some, for whatever types of marketing or whatever they want to use it? Because it's amazing. You can do things that you can't, couldn't do before or do with traditional types of tools. So we have to be creative in thinking of, we're always thinking of, what can I do next? How else can I use this? So it's still, it's as much creative, it's just different where I think, I don't know, because I'm not planning films and, you know, scripts and necessarily storyboards, but we're still thinking along those lines. But it's even more technical, right, where you have to still plan out, like if they want to add that's going to say this, you still have to plan out the steps and do different things.

Technical Planning and Value Assessment

And that takes a lot of, you know, it's brain intellectual and intellectual value also that you'd have to place on that before you. It might even be more difficult because it's not just coming from you don't have a script or an idea. They might just have what, a briefing to show like you would normally. But you have to figure out, how can I get that out of these tools? Yeah, I mean, I like your take that we're doing the same work towards the creativity and we're both being creative. And so it does make me think, like, when they go to buy something or to buy services, whatever, they're not in some ways, maybe the right frame mental framework is you're not buying an AI expert or buying a blender expert.

Understanding Client Expectations

You're buying them for their creativity. And it's more the case with AI than anything else, where you like what they create and their aesthetic and their creativity. And so what you're paying for is that you're not paying for AI or blender or whatever. And maybe if it's more mechanical, like, I need you to do this in terms of, like, they have a very specific job and you're rotoscoping or something like that, then it's a very different case. But I think maybe the advent of AI and these tools are saying, these tools, you know, you have some level expert, but what you're actually buying and paying for is the creativity in their creative imagination.

Integrating Creativity and Technical Skills

Exactly. And that's exactly what it is, because it's even, it's both of them combined, which makes it even, you would think, more valuable because you're asking for that technical know how, technical expertise, and also a way to, you know, express it, create it creatively. All right, I want to do my lightning round with you, and then this will wrap up the space and maybe we'll get some people on to come up and stuff. If you have any friends down there or somebody, you know, feel free to ping them and request them to come up. But here's my first question.

Comparing Tools and Personal Preferences

And I imagine it's like one's good for one thing and one's good for another, but I'll ask it more. No, plainly, which is mid journey or flux plus? Laura, it's. Well, that's a hard one. And I. Yeah, because it's like, well, you vested so much time into mid journey, mastering mid journey. So I can't just say, well, I don't. I love the potential for flux and the different. There's so many different. It's not just one tool to use to. She used different flux lauras. But yeah, I guess, you know, I'm always going to probably veer back to mid journey as like, overall, because that's my biggest library of images.

Organizing Creative Assets

Okay. This is sort of like putting our sponsors here on the spot, but it's okay if you feel one way or another. And I'm sure it's like a. Again, I would have a very nuanced answer too. But Runway or luma, it's right now, because of the way it's set up and because Runway has been around longer with the video tools, it's easier to use Runway because I can organize things a little bit better and kind of keep track. But I think it's more like the UI and Luma, for their credit, they have not been. I haven't been using them as that long, and they haven't been out as long as gen two.

Disorganization and File Management

In gen one. I'm actually curious, what do you use to organize stuff in Runway? Because I am completely unorganized. Well, my entire asset is a trash bin. It's like, not trash, but it's just completely unorganized. Like, how do you organize Runway? Yeah, I don't know. I wish somebody could actually teach us a little better. I know that you can make folders, but I can't seem to get the stuff into the correct folder. So one thing I've been doing is trying to label rename the files as a, you know, for the ones that I really like.

File Management Strategies

I'm trying to rename them as I go so I can find them faster in my thousands of assets. But if you're working at one time, I can still see them scrolling on the side. So that's what I mean. I'll just keep it open all day, and then I'll have like, you know, 100 over there on the side. And if I ever log, if I close that tab, I'm out of luck and I have to start. Here's a side question related to that. Organization wise. How big is your hard drive and what percent filled is it?

Storage Capacity Challenges

I had to get a new Mac. I got a Mac Pro. MacBook Pro. Think, what is it, 256gb? So, yeah, I kept running out of storage space there, and I'm really bad about deleting. Like, my finder window is just ridiculous. I probably have. I always have way too much in there. I don't even want to look, but, yeah. And then I got an external hard drive that I keep forgetting to download things in. So what happens when you run a disk space?

Consequences of Limited Storage

Like, do you have to delete stuff or, like, what do you do? Yeah. And I'm also running out of cloud space on Google Drive and dropbox. I think I have some space left, but. Yeah, and I probably a lot of things I need to go back through, and I don't need them anymore. You know, back, like, a year ago, everything was so amazing. I was afraid to. Like, were making things in Pika. In discord. I'm like, where are you going to save it? There's no, you know, place to save it on. You didn't have, like, a library that you could use.

Challenges of Content Management

So I still have stuff from Pika way back last year that I probably, like, three second video that I probably could get rid of now, but it's hard because it was so fun. Yeah. I have a two terabyte drive on my MacBook air. I need to upgrade to a MacBook Pro. Oh, you're doing better than me. And it's, like, 90% full. Yeah, I was, like, 95% full until I realized that final cut pro has all these temporary files, that keyboard. So I tried to flush some of those out.

Dealing with Temporary Files

I was like, wow, I never thought I would fill up two terabytes like, this will never. This is way beyond whatever need. But then AI video came along. I can't even use Topaz because I haven't tried it on this one. But on my last Mac, I, like, I think I was able to upscale one video, and then it was, like, out of room. I had no more space. So, yeah, I can't have the stuff. I can't use it. That's why I've been using online that tensorfix or stuff like that.

Comparative Assessments of Video Tools

Wow. Okay, here's another video one just because it came to mind, and I think you probably have a better sense of it than I would. Kriya versus Pika. Are you there? I can't hear anything. Oh, no, I can. Okay, so another comparison is also in the video realm. Korea versus pika. Well, they're different. I think it's hard to compare because. Yeah, Korea's Korea video. Like, well, yeah, because Korea video is different.

Understanding Different Video Tools

I don't really compare it to any of the. Like, the. It doesn't do necessarily photorealistic. It's a little bit slightly different. The animate diff type style. Okay. Okay. And let's see another one, actually. Which video editor do you use? I was going to try comparison, but if you don't use it, then. But what's your go to video editor. My go to is capcut, since I had to learn from, like, everything from the start and teach myself.

Learning Video Editing Tools

And Alan, actually, I don't know if he's on here, but helped me a lot to learn how to use Capcom quickly. But I started using Davinci pro. Oh, nice kind of work with that. Yeah, I've heard lots of good things about DaVinci, especially with a color sort of correction and color stuff. Yeah. And they have quite a bit of things that tools you can use on the free. I don't have the studio yet.

Wrapping Up and Community Engagement

Okay. It seems that we've got some questions maybe coming up, and do you want to pick somebody to bring on stage, Heather? Oh, no, I can't, actually. I see that you invited me to co host, and I apologize. I take it. I don't want to do it and then, end up losing the mic or something. But no, go ahead. Anybody? I appreciate people coming up.

Engaging with the Community

Okay. What's, what's bringing Winston up? It seems like he's waving a lot. Yeah, because I can't. So go ahead. Okay, let me see. Figure out a speaker. Okay. Hello, Winston. Welcome to the stage. Hello. Can y'all hear me? We can, yes. Oh, great. So there's not a question. I just want to thank Heather for her work. I watched a lot of her tutorials. I did want to tell Heather how much I'm making so she can get a bid on what she should charge.

Sharing Experiences and Success

So I'm charging currently 50 to 150 /hour from taking her tutorials and doing client work. And I missed out on my $10,000 month last month, but I did get $6000 to $7,000. So I'm using LinkedIn to find my clients. So, Heather, if you ever want any help, since you've been so helpful, if you follow me back, I can send you a message of how I'm getting clients. That's it.

Appreciation for Community Contributions

Well, thank you so much, Winston. I appreciate that. And, man, that makes me feel so good that you've been able to make some money. Wow. From. Thank you so much. Touches my heart. And I recently got on LinkedIn, so I noticed it is a lot of. A lot happening over there. That's a lot more opportunities, it seems like. So thank you. Thank you for sharing that for everyone in the audience to hear too.

Discovering New Talent

Oh, yeah, for sure. Thanks for the time. Thanks, Winston. Before you jump off, I have a couple questions for you. Where. How did you discover Heather? How did you find her? It was definitely her prompts and her how tos. It's kind of funny because I've been trying to grow on Twitter, but I haven't had any luck. But I'm better at business, and so I'll use all her prompts to do all my client work. So that's how I found her.

Background and Goals

Wow. And then. And then, like, you just up here, tell us a little bit about yourself. Oh, sure thing. So my background is mainly marketing. I did some tech sales in the SaaS software space, so I use those techniques to get clients. And my big goal is to make movies. So I'm a christian filmmaker. So I'm working on two movies, Life of David and Life of Moses. So that's the only thing that I have on Twitter is just the posters for the movies.

Introduction and Acknowledgment

Wow. Very cool. Very cool. Thanks for coming up. Thank you, Winston. Oh, thanks. Goodbye. I'm going to bring up one other person. I think Judy is. Sometimes I wonder if they actually mean to come on, to come up, but I'll bring up Judy. Judy. She's not there yet. Hold on 1 second. Judy, welcome to the stage. Well, I welcome every one of y'all for being here. No, this ain't a voice filter. I'm the great grandmother of web three. And I've been here since nobody was here but the mental health people and that telescope people. I was here when, before anybody was here. I've been this. Let me tell you a little story about where I've been and why I'm here.

Personal Journey and Contributions

I soldered every mother's board that ever come across the thing. I'm here to teach the world about the past, to make a good future. And I'm doing AI to do it because they want me to reseed America with good, positive outlook on life. I was raised by grandparents. My world war one, world war two grandparents. He raised me well. I was poor. I've been poor all my life, and I'm still poor. But I never knew I was poor because back then, and, you know, you didn't know you was poor. You was raised right. You were raised to stand up and believe in what you believe in. To be the one. Everybody said we need change. Oh, the world needs change. But who's willing to stand up and be that change? I can't find a soul.

Community Engagement

My grand Judy, do you have a question for Heather? Yes, sir. I'm fixing to tell all of y'all I'm. I'm doing great things. But I could do it better with y'all's help. Cause I have no education, no book savvy, no tech savvy. But my grandkids put me on TikTok when the pandemic hit, I had 85,000 followers. When I was the people's choice, not tick tock choice. They locked me out and took me global behind my back. I want to make a difference, but I don't know who I can trust and who I can't trust. But that's why I'm here. And somebody put me in here today, but I'm using that Luna AI to the max, and I'm, I appreciate that. Judy, are you making images. Going about your way? Because y'all are smart and I'm done.

Life Story and Legacy

My life story is a movie. I've been told that. And I've, God gave me eight great grandsons and one great granddaughter in the last five years I've been in social media. They're all under four years old. I've been in social media, period, for five years now. That's a great thing I'm doing. I'm sorry I took up your time. No. Thank you for coming up, Judy. And I hope that you know what me and a luna AI is doing when we win because I'm doing it for no money. I'm teaching a eyes to reseed America because if we're going to reseed America, we can't do it to, grown ups are too far gone. We got to teach the children and serve the gentleman that says you're a Christian.

Call for Support and Reflections

If God, if you really are a Christian, God is going to send you to me to help me do what we need to do for your great grandkids. I'm making social media safe for all of y'all's great grandkids. Thank you so much. I appreciate that, Judy. Thank you. You have a great. Judy, that was a very, you know, I mean, it's interesting what, how many different kinds of people come up on stage, and I appreciate all the perspectives. Great perspective. Thank you. So. I just want to say a couple. Oh, Aziz has a question.

Connecting with the Community

No, go ahead. Go ahead. No, no, go ahead, Heather. You don't say something, then we'll go to Aziz. No, no. I was just, I was going to shout out Aziz and Salma and Kat. I see Amira, Christopher, of course, Muriel, Tom, Elsine, Britta, Thomas, my business partner. Thomas Haynes here. And, you know, I saw Gok. Thank you for, you know, I've been using your tools quite a bit. And Steve and automation. Enrique. Thank you. Achille and Monster library. You guys are all here. I just, I don't want to leave anybody out, but I just wanted to say hello and thank you all for showing up today.

Building Relationships

And Aziz, what's up? Hello. How are you all? Good. Good. Thanks for the space. I really enjoy what you are talking about. Your journey through this community, through this AI tools. It's really a pleasure, Heather, to meet guys like you. It's like our family, our second family. It seems to be like we are checking each other every day, and we love each other as a family, not as a social media. It's a different type of community. So just really big thanks, guys, for everything.

Appreciation for the Community

For everything you are done and hopefully that will be still the same forever. I would like the community still as it is without any changes. We love each other. We don't have any clashes or something like this. I don't know if there is hidden clashes, but currently I love what happened in our community. The big support for our community member that comes, as you said, starting from Chris, from you, Heather, from Ali, from everyone, Salma, Marco, and I can't say all the names, Takala. So that's a really big appreciate, Heather.

Continued Growth and Learning

Now I am starting since last year, but now we are big together. We learn from each other. I love what happened in the community, the prom shared and everything. Thank you. Thank you guys so much. That's it. And thank you, Heather, again. And thank you, Chikai, for this interesting and funny and entertaining hosting for this circle. Many thanks, Luma. Also, thank you, Aziz. I appreciate it. And I wanted to say one of the best things and why another thing that keeps me going on here every day is the opportunity to have friends all around the world.

Global Connections

And Z is an example of that and many people here. So my business partner, Thomas, is in England and I'm in the US. So every day I'm around the globe and it is a great community and I appreciate all of you. Thank you so much. Yeah, I mean, your business partner is Tom. What's his last name or what's his name? Thomas Haynes. It's Thomas Haynes. And yeah, he's responsible for a lot of, like, for where I'm at right now, for pushing me, like, to start spaces, my newsletter.

Collaborating and Growing Together

I have podcasts now and all this, and I couldn't do without him and even learning just how x and Twitter back then worked. So thank you so much, Thomas. Well, I just followed Thomas so I could, I'm going to invite him to speak to see if he will come up. Do you think Thomas is a shy person or is he like. I think he can't right now because it's probably. It's pretty late, and I think he's coming back from something. We'll put him on the spot now, but yeah, anyone else that wants to.

Experiences of Building Together

And I get. I know we got to shut it down soon, though, but thank you. But I would love to hear from him, but like, I just followed him and it's cool to have a partner. How did you guys. He was my secret weapon. And he used to have a. An anonymous account, about 80,000 followers, where he was like, the. It's the game. His username was the game of life. So he ended up when a lot of things changed earlier this year.

Learning from Each Other

Or at the end of last year, and he ended up deleting that account and has his own personal account and newsletter business and. But, yeah, he was teaching me how to the game of life and the game of Twitter, basically, and how you play and build up, and there's, you know, back then, there were more rules where it was easier to, you see all money Twitter, the growth accounts and wellness and money accounts and, you know, the fitness type things and copywriting, all. That's basically money Twitter.

Navigating Challenges

Right. So learning how to get through into. Get the algorithm to recognize your account for having value and not being a consumer, it takes some work, and it is hard to do on your own. But I found him through another space that someone who's. She's not on x much anymore, Sana Ahmed used to do two weekly spaces, and he was a guest on her space, and I contacted him right away, and we've been working together ever since. So.

Importance of Relationships

Two years ago, almost exactly two years ago. I love how, I mean, I want to wrap it up a little bit, but this one little insight, and then I'll have you sort of maybe say some final words, which is, I love how your connections are through. Like, I feel like conversations and connecting with people. It's not like it feels like that. They're either through spaces or you talk to them directly. I'm not sure how much of it has been in real life, especially post pandemic, but I love that part of the building, which is it's not building by followers or engagement.

Authentic Connections

sort of farming or tweets or whatever it is, but like, you're just reaching out directly and say, hey, I want to learn from you and. Or just want to connect with you. And so I think I see that sort of, that particular theme repeat itself in larger your. What you said tonight. No, thank you. Yeah, that's what a lot of people, you know, growing on all these platforms, it's networking and, you know, reaching out and getting relation, making relationships, building relationships with people.

Finding Community

And like Salma, you know, meeting her, Tom, Blake in Britto, they were, I had a maven course a year ago, and they were both my first students in that. That's how I met them. And just all kinds of different people that are in here. It could be just exchanging conversation in the comments on a post and just kind of getting used to people. I do good morning and good night every day. And that's a way to just say, you know, hey, and try to reach out and do the same, you know, to other people.

Building Community Engagements

But just like building a community that way and getting used to being involved in the same prompt shares or, you know, we would have our threads that would go around, like, based on a certain color or something like that, certain style, and everybody would contribute. And that's another way people just build up and then using different tools. And I appreciate people that reach out to me from different brands meeting people, not, you know, just founders, but like, people that are working within the brand and answering questions like Gok Fem is down there and I've been using their flux prompt generator and they work for file AI.

Collaborative Growth

And I'm, you know, posting a lot about that. So they jump into the comments when I, if somebody has a question and I'll tag them and they want to answer that. So we're all helping each other get to know each other. That's great. I mean, I do think when you say it's a community, and I do think it's interesting, I loved hearing you talk about the community and calling out people because it's a whole new segment of the AI community and through the creative community that I am not part of.

Diversity and Connection

And you're my window, Heather. Like, you're like, okay, I'm starting to see what's out there and all these people and meeting people because you're the connection to that. And, like, mine's more AI fine art as sort of this other crypto world type of thing from nfTs, which, where I came from. And so I like how AI, I do think it's AI video is bringing in together a lot of different people from Hollywood to the education side going through to, you know, traditional AI companies, like startup companies, like Luma to the NFT crypto community.

Intersection of Communities

So it's, it really is a very intersection of a lot of different areas that I think has happened more in AI video than others. But to close this out, Heather, I want to give you a chance to sort of start seeing some say the last words and then wrap the space, which I really enjoy talking to you. No, thank you so much. And thank you, Luma, for David. I appreciate it. David Romero from Luma and for Luma in general, for everyone down, for even creating this group of people where, you know, I'm in a lot of creator programs.

Appreciation for the Platform

but this is a little bit smaller. And it's really nice to be able to, you know, do talk about some different things and to have a space like this without just talking about Luma. And even though I really appreciate you having that for getting, allowing people to get to know us as individuals, and I think that's important in hearing our voices. And I hope I appreciate everyone that came and thank you for such kind words. Winston and everyone that's here.

Gratitude and Connections

And Aziz, thank you so much. And, like, just people that are kind to me and kind to others in the community. And Stephen, I see you there. What's up? And Ben Nash. Hello, everybody. I just, I don't want to leave people out, but thank you all for inviting me into your feed and communicating with me, and I hope I, that we can continue and continue growing together. Kinky. I see you there, everybody.

Camaraderie and Collaboration

Call people out, but no, thank you all. And it's really nice to be a part of a big family that we're not worried about competing and just kind of like a creative community. Yeah. People like you, Chicago, I think I wouldn't have known, like, your work, and I would have felt, like, intimidated to even, you know, be involved with, like, what you're doing. Fine art and things like that. I don't see, I can't even begin to get into that frame of mind or don't have the experience.

Closing Remarks

So thank you for, you know, I'm glad that I was able to meet you and others through Luma. Yeah, for sure they did. They brought a good, diverse set of people to the group, which I also agree has been a great bonus. And kudos to Kluma for doing that. And thank you for hosting the space. And you do exactly what I do, Heather, at the end of my spaces, which is I call out everybody that I know. So thank you for coming by.

Final thoughts

You just wanted to call them out. Like, look around. I've tell people to look around the room and see people check, like, click on their face real fast before we jump off and it might be somebody that you might be interested in their content. Yeah, I always try to see if I can find somebody in the audience that seems like they want to come up, but they're not coming up. And every once in a while, I'll hit a good person where they're completely surprised. Nick'mon. But I didn't look too much this time because I was so focused on you, which is the way.

Conclusion and Thanks

Oh, thank you. Thanks for letting us go over, Luma. Appreciate it. So we will call this a wrap. And thank you again, Heather, for coming on to be interviewed. And thank you, Luma. Thanks, everybody, for coming by. And I always say this. I need to come up with an actual real thing, which I don't have really cool outro music and have a really nice way to end a space. I never have a good, cool way to end this space.

End with Gratitude

I'm just gonna say thank you. Leave a few seconds so that, you know, the people who are listening on delay, they hear the rest of it, and then I'll close out the space. But thank you, everybody. And thank you, Heather, and thanks for coming by.