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The Twitter Space How to Win Republicans for Harris hosted by NHJennifer. The discussion revolved around strategic approaches targeted at appealing to Republicans for the Harris campaign. Emphasizing the significance of political alliances, messaging, and understanding the Republican perspective, the space shed light on inclusive strategies for effective voter engagement. Through collaborations with media personalities and influencers, the space highlighted the importance of credibility and broad-based support. The intersection of political strategy, messaging, and media amplification emerged as key elements for successful outreach across diverse political spectra.
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Questions
Q: Why are strategic political alliances essential in campaigns?
A: Alliances help in reaching a broader audience base and gaining support from diverse political backgrounds.
Q: How does messaging impact the effectiveness of political outreach?
A: Messaging serves as a bridge to connect with audiences and convey the campaign's objectives.
Q: Why is understanding the Republican mindset crucial for campaign success?
A: Understanding the mindset aids in crafting inclusive messages that resonate with Republican voters.
Q: What role does media presence play in political campaigns?
A: Media presence amplifies the campaign's reach and facilitates engagement with a wider audience.
Q: How can credibility and trust influence voter decisions?
A: Building credibility and trust are instrumental in convincing voters and garnering their support.
Q: Why is inclusivity important in political dialogues?
A: Inclusivity fosters open discussions and enhances connections with audiences from various political affiliations.
Q: How can collaborations with influencers benefit a campaign?
A: Influencer collaborations increase visibility and support for the campaign through their networks and platforms.
Q: What is the significance of adapting strategies for diverse demographics?
A: Adapting strategies ensures that the campaign resonates with a broader range of voters and maximizes impact.
Q: Why is a bipartisan approach valuable in political campaigns?
A: Bipartisan approaches demonstrate inclusivity and respect for diverse perspectives, appealing to a wider voter base.
Q: How do media, messaging, and political strategy intersect in campaigns?
A: The synergy between media, messaging, and strategy is pivotal in effectively communicating campaign goals and engaging with voters.
Highlights
Time: 00:12:45
Strategic Alliances and Political Support Exploring the importance of building alliances to garner support from different political factions.
Time: 00:25:18
Messaging Tactics for Diverse Audiences Analyzing how messaging strategies can bridge political divides and appeal to varied demographics.
Time: 00:40:57
Media Amplification and Campaign Reach Discussion on leveraging media platforms to amplify political messaging and reach a broader audience.
Time: 00:55:32
Inclusivity in Political Engagement Highlighting the significance of inclusive dialogues in engaging voters from diverse political backgrounds.
Time: 01:10:20
Collaborations with Influential Figures Exploring the benefits of partnering with influential personalities to enhance campaign visibility and support.
Time: 01:25:47
Adapting Strategies for Voter Connection Importance of tailoring strategies to resonate with various demographics for effective voter outreach.
Key Takeaways
- Strategic political alliances are crucial in garnering support from various political backgrounds.
- Messaging plays a significant role in bridging gaps and appealing to a diverse audience.
- Understanding the mindset of Republicans is essential for effective communication and outreach.
- Leveraging media presence and platforms can amplify political messaging and reach a broader audience.
- Building credibility and trust are key components in winning over voters from different political affiliations.
- Political campaigns benefit from bipartisan approaches that consider the perspectives of both parties.
- Inclusivity and open dialogues are vital in engaging with audiences across different political spectrums.
- Collaborations with influential personalities and political figures can bolster campaign visibility and support.
- Adapting strategies to resonate with diverse demographics enhances the campaign's effectiveness.
- The intersection of media, messaging, and political strategy is pivotal in political campaigns.
Behind the Mic
Introduction and Setup
Hi, Emily, how are you? Oh, I have to make you, never mind, I know why I'm here. Hi, everybody. Thank you for starting to fill in a little bit. Emily and I are just getting set up and I realize I have to send her the invitation to get her all set to go. Let's see how we do here. let me see. I'm going to choose. There we go. Okay, Emily, it says your invitation has been sent. Good to see some folks starting to fill in. There we go.
Co-hosting and Early Attendees
So Emily, I see you got the invitation to co host. Are you able to hear me? Yep, we're good to go now. And I just shot Joe a quick message with the link, so he should be joining in just a minute. Terrific, terrific. It's always good to see people jumping in early. If you guys want to share the link with for us, that would be awesome. Start pushing people in and hopefully have, I know we're gonna have a great conversation. Hopefully get a good audience to get things rolling here. I'll send Joe a quick message as well and we'll get started. I have that at 07:00. My guess is that we will start at exactly 07:03.
Invitation Reminder and Initial Greetings
That's what I usually do. Let's see. I'll send Joe a reminder as well. Okay, thank you to everybody who has joined so far. I appreciate it. I know we've got more coming. We push this out, Emily, I assume, I mean, you're pushing it out, I assume as well, Emily, from our places, our profiles. Yes, ma'am. Good. Okay, Joe's here. I need to send him an invite. Right? Okay, let's see. Okay, if you can hear me, Joe, I sent your invite. I just need you to accept it.
Technical Challenges and Guest Introduction
Here we go. Emily, is it just me or did we lose Joe? Joe as quickly as he came in? Nope. There he is. He got his invitation to be speaker. Great. I'm going to ask everybody on the call. This is Jennifer, by the way. I should have said at the beginning, this is Jennifer Horn. I'm going to ask you all, if you feel up to it, to push out the link. Invite folks to join us again.
Engagement and Ad Campaigning
Give me 1 second to retweet it from the women. So make sure that women for us has their invitation out there and then we will get going. Oh, actually, I can't do that now because I'm signed in as me. I learn something new on these every day about how it all works. So don't jump over. No, no, I can't do that. I can't do that. I have, too. That caused some trouble for us. So, folks, this is Jennifer Hornby. Have Emily Matthews with us helping to keep things running smoothly as we go through the process.
Informing the Audience
If you have a question, you want to jump into the conversation for a minute or two, raise your hand and Emily will give us a heads up and let us know. I'm going to try to start with some time with our guest, and then we'll start looking for folks who want to ask questions. I just want to remind everybody that this call is hosted by women for us. And I want to just tell you very quickly who we are and what we do.
Explaining the Initiative
I'm working this cycle with this group, women for us, which is republican women, right leaning independent women who are focused on and persuading republican women and right leaning independent women to vote for Kamala Harris. And we believe very strongly that Donald Trump poses, you know, an existential threat to democracy as we know it. And we are focusing our efforts in the swing states. If you make donations to us, large or small, it goes right out to the, you know, every dollar at this point that comes in goes right back out touch a voter somewhere.
Recent Efforts and Advertising
And we've been very engaged. You may, if you go to the women for us, women number for us to the Twitter profile, kind of, you know, go searching through the feed, you'll see that we've just released four new ads in the last week or so, and they're all there somewhere. And what I love about these ads is that they are, they not only target specifically the moderate republican, moderate conservative woman, and, you know, what she cares about and what she thinks. They've all been tested before we put them out.
Persuasive Messaging in Advertising
So we know that they're powerful. We know that they persuade. And if you want to find them and share them or find them and text them to somebody that you think needs to see them or hear them, you'll see that the messaging is not at all confrontational. It's very much about, it's very much about persuading. And you'll see that they're all toned in a way that you can use them to share with people that you care about. And that is the big topic of the day with our guest.
Introducing Joe Wash
Those of you who have followed Emily and I over the past couple of years doing these spaces already know our guest, and you probably already know him just because of the outstanding work that he does. You're going to have to remind me of the new name of your show because I think it's not white flag anymore, but everybody, Joe Wash, former congressman, longtime voice for democracy and for defeating Trump. And as I'm sure you've seen on the news and in other media forums, he has been out there working like crazy trying to connect with Republicans who could become Harris voters.
Joe’s Gratitude and Engagement
So, Joe, thank you so much for being part of this tonight. Jennifer, it's so good to be with you. Emily, great to be with you. Great to be with everybody who is on this. Twitter spaces we got, what a. Jennifer, how many days to go? Fewer than 40. Emily, do you have the number in front of you? Is it like, what is it, gang? It's five, four days. 33 or four days? Yes. I am mortified that you asked that question, and I don't know it off the top of my head.
Election Countdown and Work Ahead
No. It is so easy to get caught up in the work of the day. You know it is. And when you're kind of on the battlefield every day, you do lose track of what day it is. But I think we have 33 or 34 days to go to try to do all we can to make sure that this guy, as you said, this existential threat, it never sets foot in the White House again. Jennifer, you're nice. I am working my ass off. I did this in 2020 for Joe Biden.
Looking Forward to Election Results
A bunch of us did. There are more. Here's the cool thing. 2020 was very lonely compared to 2024. You guys know, there are so many more republicans who have shooted up again for this. And so I'm really encouraged. Look, Jennifer, you're smarter than I am. It took me a while to get to the dance. I voted for Trump in 2016. I used to be MAGA. So a lot of this is catholic guilt. I got to work my butt off to make up for all the damage I helped cause.
The Influence of Past Decisions
Well, I'm very familiar with catholic guilt, I have to say. And sometimes it is an appropriately motivating influence, isn't it? But, Joe, you've been working like crazy, and I've been watching you on social media platforms and, you know, the live work stuff that you're doing and the meetings and the groups that you've been out there traveling around attending. Let me ask, let's start with where you've been and kind of just give us the quick background.
Engagement in Various States
Ever since the vice president got into this race, as the top name on the ticket there, what states are you in and who are you talking to? How are you finding the people that. You'Re talking to, actually, and I'll jump right into that. I'll do a JD vance. I'll do what he did last night. Martha, I'll answer your question, but first let me say this. Yes, I will answer your question, but first let me say this.
A Warning About the Election Climate
And everybody on the call right now, let me begin with a warning. And maybe this is because I'm an old fart. Maybe this is because I'm a dark irishman. Based on everything I've seen and based on everything I think I know, if the election were held tomorrow, Donald Trump would win. I said that two weeks ago. I said that two months ago. I still believe that electorally Donald Trump would eke out a close victory.
Perception of the Upcoming Election
I always want to start with that. And every time I'm out in Pennsylvania or Michigan or Wisconsin or anywhere, especially every time I'm on MSNBC or CNN, I start with that because I don't want people to think like Kamala Harrison and Tim Walls have this thing, or they're up. For all we know, they will win by a whole bunch. But right now, I think she's losing electorally. I think you need to believe that.
The Need for Urgency
We need to believe that. And even if you don't believe that, pretend you believe that. Pretend you're 20 points down and work your butt off. Look, this all started, you know, as you know, Jennifer, Republicans for Harris, it was Republicans for Biden. And then the Democrats chose Joe Biden, put his country first. He did something that Donald Trump is incapable of doing a and stepped aside for the good of the country.
Encouragement from Strangers
And soon, shortly after, Kamala Harris announced we had this big Republicans for Harris Zoom call, my friend and former colleague Adam Kinzinger was on it with me. Jeff Duncan from Atlanta was on it. And there were 80, 90,000 people on that call. So that kind of launched it. And what I've been doing every day and every week is going into different battleground states and encouraging local Republicans to get out there and support Kamala Harris and helping to give them tools on how, when they talk to their neighbors and their friends and their fellow Republicans, what they can say to help persuade Republicans to come out for Harris.
Continuous State Engagement
I've been in every state, every battleground state. I'll be in Georgia tomorrow, and then I'm going to Las Vegas this weekend. Jennifer, you know, you and I know very intimately when you are a Republican and you stand in the public square and you say, I'm not voting for him, he's unfit. I'm a Republican. I'm going to vote for her, that takes courage because you risk ending your career as a Republican, I have found that locally, some of these Republicans in Pennsylvania and Nevada and Arizona coming out local, these local Republicans takes a lot more courage because they have to live with their neighbors and their fellow Republicans.
Going Against the Grain
So I'm really excited. The response has been great, but we're running behind. Yeah. And I agree with you that when I look at the map and I look at the numbers, you know, and then you look at all the different polls, that's the thing that really starts to make my skin call. There's so much, you know, the polls can be so close to each other and yet contradictory to each other. So, you know, I, the one thing I know for sure is it's gonna be, it's close.
Strategies for Campaigning
Right now, it's close. And to your point, maybe one of them will win by a landslide. Maybe, you know, maybe it's her, maybe it's him. But there's, the greatest politician I ever knew was an executive counselor from the granite state, from New Hampshire who sat in the executive council for something like 25 years. And his mantra was exactly what you just said, that he spends every day campaigning as if he was two votes behind. Yes.
Essential Mindset
So he just, and that's where we all have to be. That's where our heads have to be. And that's why I think what you're doing is so important. And I hope that people will put the effort into going to the women for us profile and start looking for those ads, going to be putting them, you know, re pushing them out so they pop up to the top of our feed every couple of days because they're really persuasive. And as I said before, they're tested and they are made to persuade the people that we're talking to, that we're talking about republican women who could step outside their box and vote for Kamala Harris.
Understanding Group Dynamics
So I want to talk to you about that specifically. When you're in these groups, I've seen the pictures of you. You know, they look like, I don't know what they are, but they look like a, a local, like a town GOP committee meeting, you know, that kind of, those kinds of numbers. What are you saying? What is your persuasive language? And also, what's your response? What, what kind of feedback are you getting? You know, and for everybody on this call and everybody who agrees with me that Donald Trump is a uniquely dangerous threat to this country, part of our problem is there's a disbelief.
Confronting Unbelief
like how the. I'll watch my language. How the hell can this guy who four years ago committed crimes, and by the way, thank you, Jack Smith. Those crimes were outlined today, committed crimes trying to overthrow an american election. I mean, I say that to myself every day. I say that to myself every day. Never, never, ever before happened in the history of this country. And yet this guy is the nominee of one of our two major political parties.
Recognition of Close Election
So there's like a disbelief that how can this thing be close? Joe I have a unique perspective because I voted for him in 2016 and I come from MAGA and all of his voters used to be my voters and I still engage with them all the time. So I understand more intimately why he has such great appeal and why it is close. But I don't want to be the bearer of bad, dark news. And I'll answer your, Jennifer, I'm going to answer your question.
Cautious Optimism
Thank you, Mister Bance. One thing that really encourages me, in every state I've been in so far, every single battleground state, I've had a bunch of republicans come up to me and say, sometimes very quietly, Joe, I'm going to vote for her, but I'm not going to say anything publicly. Now when I get that, Jennifer, and it's happened in every state I've been in pretty decent numbers, whenever I get that, I give a hug or I give a high five because that's good enough. I'll take that.
Reactions from Prominent Figures
Now, when it comes to people like Mitt Romney and Mike Pence and John Bolton and Christie, I want to slap them all upside the head because they're public people, they're big people. They ought to come out and say it's not good enough for Mitt Romney to say I'm not voting for him. No, Mitt Romney could make such a difference. Jennifer, you know better than I did. I do, because I used to fight with Mitt Romney all the time.
The Importance of Public Stance
He's a good establishment guy. I was a crazy tea party guy. But the difference that Mitt Romney could make if he came out tomorrow and said, okay, I've thought about it. Yes, yes, I've got to vote for the only person who can keep Trump out of the White House. I'm telling you, on the ground with republicans in these states, that would make a huge difference. That's why I hammer Mitt Romney every waking day.
Optimism for the Future
But here's the good news. I don't think the polls are picking up on this, Jennifer. All these, the quiet republican vote for Harris. Yes. You remember how in 2016 and 2020, there was the quiet Trump vote that the pollsters never picked up, people who were rightly embarrassed to say they were voting for Trump always did better than his polls. I think you could see the opposite effect this year where all of these Republicans who are going to quietly vote for Harris, they're not being picked up. Does that make sense?
Analyzing the Polling Calls
It completely makes sense because I feel it the same thing myself. And I'm spending a lot of time, you know, in the numbers, in the swing state, in the data and looking at, you know, all sorts of all the other moving parts in the swing states. And of course, we're focused in on republican women. Yeah, but here's what I think. I think that if a Republican is getting a, is answering a polling call and, you know, people who don't want to take them, don't take them, just don't take the calls, you know, but I think that they, I think it's, I can totally see where they are saying, yes, I'm gonna vote for Trump because it's instinctive and it feels protective to them.
The Complexity of Identity
because what they're doing is so outside the box for someone who has spent their entire life with one party, with one message, with, you know, one set of, you know, their social circles and their family circles are their political circles. You know, it's not just the people that they go out to, you know, that they hang out with on a Friday night. You know, they're so I think that if they're taking the calls, I can see where they'd be saying, yeah, I'm voting for Trump, of course.
The Reality of Voting Dynamics
Of course. You know, and they're not, to your point, the guys that come up to you and say, look, I'm not going to say it here, but I'm voting for her. Yes. I just, I just feel it. And I especially feel it amongst women. Here's what I, what you, something you can comment on for us. The other, you know, the difference, because I look at how weird at all these Republicans coming out of the woodwork all of a sudden saying, I'm voting for Harris.
Reflections on Loyalty and Values
You know, like, amazing you and I would have loved those folks to have been on the battlefield in 2020. But thank God. Thank God they're there now. Right? But I'm getting like, you. I'm just so brought up about it, Holland. But, but there, things have happened to, since 2020, we know more about Trump's traitorous crimes, not just his business crimes in New York. And not the fact that he's an adjudicated rapist now, but we know a lot more about what he actually did when it comes to the insurrection and the attempted coup, trying to disenfranchise voters and overturn an election.
Consequences of Past Actions
We have those facts in front of us. We have the consequences of the Dobbs decision in this, in the Supreme Court overturning Roe v. Wade. And so, and those are two of the top three issues that women are persuaded by right now that they are responding to so strongly that they are literally identifying as being willing to vote outside their party. The January 6 and the overturn of Roe v. Wade. And then the third one is the trying to steal the election, lying about the election itself.
Final Thoughts on the Issues at Hand
So with all of that on the table, it just feeds for me this idea that I, you know, we're seeing a response. I think something's happening. Do they talk to you about those issues? And if not, what issues are they talking to you about? Look, most, I think, fundamentally, what drives all of us on this call, and damn near every Republican and independent I speak with in the battleground states is, and I say this every time I go on tv, it's not, this is not about policy.
The Heart of the Matter
It's not about policy. It's not about policy. It's not about policy.
Campaign Strategies and Patriotism
I'm glad that Haley voters for Harris is out there, a great group out there with a great digital campaign now focused on Haley voters trying to make some policy arguments. And I get that, and I respect that. That makes a lot of sense. But I think innately, what binds all of us is this is a moment that's bigger than policy. Jennifer, you talk about what messaging I use when I go into Wisconsin or Arizona. I go there so that I can help give local Republicans courage when they see a big jerk like me who, like, says it all and isn't afraid, and I come in, it does help buck them up. But then they really want to know, what can we do? What can we say to our fellow republicans? I generally give them three messages that I have found work the best, and one of them is this notion that, and I apologize if this sounds pie in the sky, but this is one of those weird moments, cool moments in american history, where I feel like we all have an opportunity to be called to save this country.
Historical Significance and Duty
And as you look through the history of this 248 year old country, this doesn't happen every day. Wars are fought where people step up to save freedom and democracy. There have been a few other events in american history, but most generations of Americans are not called, are not given the opportunity to put their country first, to, like, fight for their country. And I really feel that. I believe that. And I believe this is one of those moments. And it's like an appeal to our patriotism. We're called to be like our founding fathers. We're called right now to put our little republican label over on that shelf over there, and we're called to, like, grab our muskets and we have an opportunity to fight to save this thing. I don't give a damn how old you are, how jaded or cynical you are. I don't care that we got these fancy phones that we can talk into now and see each other, man.
Recognition of Current Political Issues
This is not an old country, and we aren't on this planet very long. And so as Americans, I think we bemoan how bad Trump is and what a mess the republican party is. And by the way, I don't say this on the trail anymore. I don't think the republican party is ever coming back. I am a dark irishman, but I don't say any of that. I flip it around. Yes, everything sucks right now, but this is a really cool time. You have an opportunity to save this thing. I go from that message, Jennifer, to this message. Okay. That doesn't get your bones going. How about this one? Do you want the republican party back? Do you want a sane republican party back? Right. So the practical argument, the only way you will ever get your republican party back is if that son of a bitch loses, and he loses by a lot.
Engagement and Election Importance
So you don't like Kamala Harris? You don't. Whatever. And, you know, you don't feel like a founding father. You've been a republican your whole life. Okay. Would you like Mitt Romney and George W. Bush's and Ronald Reagan's republican party back? How about you just vote for Kamala Harris to get that back? Because the only way we get it back is if he gets his ass spanked. And I find that works with a lot of folks as well. I can totally see where it would because I do think there's an extraordinary, an extraordinarily large percentage of Republicans who are hanging on to that hope or have a sincere belief that they can get their party back once he's gone. Once this is over, these are the troubles.
Political Climate and Future Challenges
We're all just going through the troubles. And when this is all over, everything will be normal again. I'm with you. I don't think it's ever going to be that Republican Party again. It's never going to. For those folks who are waiting for that not that the republican party itself will disintegrate, but it's not going to be that party. And when this is all over and Donald Trump is defeated, because I am absolutely optimistic that we are going to defeat him. And, but once that has, is done, then there's a whole new battle within the party for the, you know, for the soul of Lincoln and Reagan and maybe Mitt Romney and, you know, what it is that they brought and stand for. But in this moment, I like that you're being practical because I think, like I said, there's millions of Republicans out there who are moved by that idea.
Current Polling and Election Dynamics
So, folks, yeah, because what, what you and I know, Jennifer, is like, maybe I believe, oh, gosh, the Republican Party's never gonna be back. But what we do know for sure is this. If he wins, then forget about it. I mean, get about it. So, so if you want a chance to get a Reagan Romney party back, he's gotta lose. So vote for her because of that. I'll tell you what, though, Jennifer, like Kamala Harris, kudos to her. I, in the two, what is it now, two months? How old is this campaign so far? It's been two months. Yeah. Two months. Right. She's run. Look, I'd like her out there more. I'd like her taking questions from the media and answering questions from regular people at town halls.
Campaigning Effectiveness
But she's run a really strong campaign and she's saying all the right things. And that convention speech she gave a while back, it was Reagan esque. She's making it easy because she's being very inclusive and she's trying to bring people together. So it's not like I thought I'd get that obstacle from people that, oh, my God, Joe. Yeah, Trump's an asshole, but Kamala's a crazy lefty. No, that's, I don't hear that from people. She's been very smart in her campaigning and her strategy. I agree with you 100%. And, you know, you and I have both been around long enough to know that we, sometimes you get these candidates and they sound, you know, they sound great, you know, apple pie in the sky, but they, you know, they immediately take office and there's somebody out there, a whole different person or something else, you know, transpires from their time in office.
Authenticity and Change
I think that she is a genuinely optimistic person, that she's genuinely positive and, you know, her aspirational vision for american democracy, looking forward for our country, I think that's all rooted in sincerity and honesty. And honor and integrity and all that, it's real. And when you start making promises like, I'll bring a Republican into the cabinet, you know, she's doing all of the things that she needs to do, and she does moderate her speech to a great extent from when she was a younger liberal candidate. But we all do, you know, we all develop, we all learn and participate and, you know, come to a point where we understand things differently and through the lens of experience, I think she's been really smart. And I have to tell you, when I listen to her talk, I hear stuff where I'm like, oh, come on. No, no.
Policy Discussion
But I actually hear, you know, you said, you know, it's not about policy. It's not about policy. But I hear her talking about policy, and sometimes, and I'm like, huh? I haven't heard a Democrat say that maybe ever. You know, so I think she's been smart. I think she's been really smart. And then the other thing I typically say to Republicans in these states is, and it goes to the fact that Kamala Harris is clearly trying to appeal to our better angels to win. She's appealing to the goodness in us. Let's come together. We are at each other's throats as a country. We can't continue this. You juxtapose that with, and this is why I worry about Trump winning.
Political Appeal Dynamics
Donald Trump is trying to scare the fuck out of people to get people to vote for him. He is appealing to our primal fears and the issues of immigration and crime thrown in with the economy. These issues resonate. These are not just appeals like, people think. He's only appealing to his Maga base. No, he's not. Most Americans have real concerns about immigration and real concerns about crime. Donald Trump has no interest in working on those issues. He's using those interest issues to scare people. And to a strong degree, Jennifer, it's working. So this election is like, you know, it's like a race. Trump's appealing to our primal fears, and Kamala Harris is appealing to our better angels.
Positive vs. Fear-Based Campaigns
And oftentimes, you know, the scary shit can win. Well, you know what? And I think. I don't. I mean, I've talked to you about this before, and I don't want to sound like, oh, it's, I always go back to my position as mom. But when you talk about appealing to our better angels, that's what I think about. Like, she. When I've always tried to encourage people that you should be looking at politics through the same lens that you look at parenting your children or choosing a partner or who you do business with. We want people who appeal to our better angels and whose better angels will respond to us. And I think that's one of the most drastic differences between Trump and Harris on the campaign trail.
Recognizing Positive Influence
And we see people are responding to that positivity, that optimism, that uplift. It's absolutely a, it is a positive influence from her to the voters. So let's talk a little bit. I don't know how closely you're tracking data and numbers and all of that every day, but let's talk a little bit about that path to 270. The, you know, you just said you've been spending a lot of time in the swing states. I've been spending a lot of time on the swing states. Everybody at women for us is that's where this is going to be decided. Do you see anything that is interesting or out of the ordinary or, hey, folks, don't miss this or keep an eye on that. You know, we both have already said, like, the polls are neck and neck.
Polling Status Overview
You know, one Pennsylvania poll has her up, the next one has him up. And it's like that in all the states. Like, what should people be looking at to try to get an understanding of what's going on? That's a great question, Jennifer. And again, I'm no expert, so everybody has a different opinion. So I'm just going to rattle off a few. I've been in every battleground state more than once and I'll continue to do it just off the top of my head. Trump seems really strong in Arizona. And that's weird because Ruben Gallego, the democratic candidate for the Senate, is way up on crazy Kerry Lake. Right. But paradoxically, there are a lot of split ticket voters in Arizona.
Arizona's Political Landscape
So weirdly, like, the better that Gallego, the Democrat, is doing, weirdly, Trump's doing better. So I worry about Arizona. I think he's strong in Arizona. I'll be in Nevada in the next couple of days. Nevada is like neck and neck. Trump seems to be doing really well in Georgia. If I'm Team Kamala Harris, I'm not as optimistic about Georgia. North Carolina, weirdly, could be this year's Georgia. My God, Hurricane Helene. And by the way, I apologize, everybody. My wife's name is Helene. I always wanted to, like, joke the last few days about the hurricane, but then it became so terrible, I can't even throw jokes at my wife about Hurricane Helene.
Impact of Hurricane on Voting
But Jennifer, we don't know what that's going to do to the voting in Georgia, but especially in North Carolina. So that's, and the real, it's the rural parts of North Carolina and Georgia is more rural to begin with, but it's those rural voters. Yeah. Except for Asheville, which is like a little blue spot in the rural area. So that, and then you had the whole Mark Robinson thing, which will hurt Trump to a degree. But I still think Kamala Harris's best path is the three, you know, the blue wall. And I feel better about her in Wisconsin. I feel better about her in Michigan. When I say I feel better, it's neck and neck, but I feel a little better.
Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania
And then every smart person tells me, and I guess I feel the same way, Pennsylvania is, it like it could come down who wins? Pennsylvania wins the whole dang thing. Right? I think those people are correct. Certainly everything that we know we're watching. But some of the smart people that I talked to because I never claimed to be one of them, are also saying to keep your eye on North Carolina. That's where North Carolina could be, where we see surprises. But to your point, my husband and I were talking about this over the weekend. The hurricane could have a measurable impact on the outcome of the presidential election. You know, there's no question about it between Georgia and North Carolina, two really critical states there.
Future Predictions and Voter Engagement
So it'll be fascinating. It will be interesting to see how that all comes together. And I just think, I think it's important for people to understand it for a couple reasons. One, to your point earlier, this is a neck and neck race. Take nothing for granted. Nobody gets to sleep late, you know, get up and get working on this every day. But also, too, just to understand it, like, as things unfold. And I think, I think about, and I'm sure you remember this in 2020, the, I want to say chaos, but it's not exactly chaos. But there was so much emotion, so much confusion, so much fear, so much anger.
Emotional Impact on Elections
You know, all these emotions on elect going into election day, on election day, a couple days after, like everybody has to keep their cool. I feel like that needs to be part of the message here for, you know, somehow, you know, keep your cool, focus on what's important. Pay attention to the numbers. Just keep going, keep going. Yeah. And, you know, Jennifer, the other thing I say this in every battleground state I go in. I was at a rally in Pennsylvania last week. I'm done. I'm done. I'm done standing on a stage and talking about how bad Trump is done.
Calls to Action for Voter Engagement
We've got 30 some days to go. Forget about that. Yeah, Trump is unfit. Yeah, he's a threat to democracy. I'm not going to talk about that anymore. Here. Start hitting the phones. Knock on every door in your neighborhood. Talk to every Republican. You know, we're at that moment now. Yes, we're at that moment now. I don't want to hear. I don't need to make the case that Trump is unfit anymore. And so get out there and proselytize in your own lane, because, Jennifer, you. Everybody listening right now. This election could come down to 64 people in two states. I mean, crazy, right? So just go, go.
Personal Responsibility in Elections
Right. And don't think. It's not you don't think that you, whoever is out listening, who's on this call right now, you might know the two people, you know, they're waiting to hear from you right now. Those two people that we need to know, Joe, everybody wants to talk to you and ask you questions. So we're going to get to some of those right now. Let's start with the sunflower. I love that. I love the beautiful picture of the sunflower. How are you? Can you hear us? Let's see. Ms. Or Mister Sunflower. Let me.
Technical Difficulties and Transitioning
We had you up on the. Yep, I see you there. You're up on stage, sunflower. Ape. I think if you want to take it off of mute and then you can. Can get started. And if not, I've got someone else on deck. Okay, sunpleur, I can see that you are still there. You're just muted. You need to unmute your phone. Okay. Oh, there we go. No. Okay. Well, that's right, sunflower. Keep listening. Katherine, you're next. If you can unmute.
Engagement with the Audience
There we go. Hey, everyone. How you doing? We're great. It's good to hear from you. I wish I could have been there for that rally in Lancaster, Joe. I found out about it a little bit too late. Oh, sorry about that.
Questioning Civil Discourse
I know. I guess I don't pay attention well enough. Anyway, so my question is. So Mike Madrid had put together something today on substack about. He called it are we addicted to outright? And he. He talked about how the debate last night was very civil. But I wonder, is that bad? So it's nice that. That JD Vance was civil, but is that dangerous? Because, you know, I saw a meme about it saying, you know, about lies. Yeah, we can. We can scream lies like Donald Trump does, or we can put, you know, nice lipstick and eyeliner on them, like JD Vance so is. Is that bad? Yes.
Debate Analysis
Oh, Catherine, if I were with you right now, I'd give you a big smooch on the forehead. Thank you. Thank you for that, Catherine. This, by the way, Jennifer, the name of my podcast, the new name is the social contract with Joe Walsh Monday through Friday. And the podcast I did today, Katherine, the title of it was JD Vance won that debate. I believe JD Vance won that debate last night. And, Katherine, it has to do with what you just said. Look, I'm all about. Because I used to be a really divisive jerk of a politician. I'm all about, you know, speaking, you know, reaching across the aisle and having respectful conversations with people you disagree with. But my God, Tim Walz. My God, you normalized that guy last night.
Understanding the Stakes
Like I said, screaming as I watched it. What are we doing here? We're having a debate about the federal government buying up federal lands to build housing, and we're talking about childcare. And hello. JD Vance said that he would not have certified the 2020 election. He wouldn't have done what Mike Pence did. Donald Trump tried to overthrow the election. Quit normalizing what this is. And so, Catherine, to your point, I felt like JD Vance won last night because he was able to normalize himself and he was able to normalize Trump. If we normalize Donald Trump, he has a great chance of winning. If we present him as the uniquely dangerous threat he is. There's no way he's going to win if the american people understand that. And I don't think the Harris Walls campaign has done a good enough job of being outraged about who and what this is.
Conversations with Voters
And Tim walls last night, looked like he wanted to go be JD Vance's best friend and have a beer with him. Hello. Come on, have a beer with the guy who said he would have helped Trump overthrow an election. Just madness. Madness, Katherine. Madness. Madness, I tell you. Katherine, thank you so much for the question. That's terrific. It looks like we have Suze. Our next question coming from Suze. Suze, you need to be take your phone off of mute to join the. There we go. It's all yours, Suze. Hi, there. Thank you. Thank you, Jennifer. Thank you, Joe. Thank you, women. For us and everybody else, this has been a wonderful, always space to be in.
Concerns About the Debate
Just on this subject, what Katherine brought up. I just have to share this with you because I am so with you. I was so upset last night. Night about the way waltz was not pouncing. Like, if he. He came on strong about weird, and then he addressed it as normal. And that was odd. And so, but all these venues, all these systems are, orbits are different because this is not a normal presidential year. So we have somebody in Vance who's not telling the truth in any sentence. And during what we want to call a debate, it's more like branding and a debate. But my question to you, I just, can I share this little story that happened right before we got on tonight? Because what you expressed, I just felt it exactly that way.
Personal Experience
And I was having a low day because of it. And then a friend of mine, a colleague, contacted me, and I'm on location in a more conservative state. That's not as relevant as his POV. He is a two time trumper and has a gentle nature, a very, he is surrounded by that orbit of the demographic, of the white male, you know? Trumper. Yeah. Okay. So he calls me and he goes, did you see the debate? And I said, yes. And he, and he didn't see the whole thing. But I have to tell you what happened, because I want to connect this thread, this to the purpose of, part of this conversation is to help people learn how to talk to people, to help them come out to vote for Harris. And he said he is going to vote for Harris.
Reflecting on Voter Experience
And he said to me he had never seen walls, right? And he's not. And he said he couldn't stop talking about them. And he did not have the experience that we're having. He didn't feel like Vance got rebranded and he's okay. He said he knew that guy was off. He said, but the way waltz was talking, his whole being, he said middle America. He said it was, he said it was a breath of fresh air. And he didn't see the 9th round when the January 6 came up. Yeah, he's going to look at that tonight. But it blew me away because is there, and this is my question back to you, is there an orbit of tentative republicans who have been seduced by the conspiracy that are vulnerable to come vote for Harris that we should all be talking to?
Assessing Political Dynamics
That might have had a different experience last night with waltz. He loved the guy. I've not heard him. He's not an emotional character. He just couldn't stop talking about his appeal to everyone and how it was so refreshing. And he was glad he said that he didn't do what we all wanted him to do because he said he spoke to a hungry audience that wants to see this. Do you think that's real? Do you think that's valid? I think there is some validity to it. The souz. And that's a really interesting point. And this is a reminder that all of us can be wrong. And everything I've said about what I saw last night, I could be dead wrong.
Evaluating Candidates
She picked Tim Walls. And when she picked Tim Walls, I thought it was a great pick because he is just a normal Midwest white dude who hunts and fishes and was a teacher and a coach. And I thought initially, this guy's going to play with average, regular dudes in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Michigan. And I still think that could happen. I just. Last night, it. And so to me, it's, it's a race to see if that will carry the day. The fact that he's not slick like JD. He's not polished like JD. He's not a Yale law school grad like JD, who knows how to point and counterpoint and all the other stuff Tim walls, you know, is just, again, is a regular guy.
The Impact of Normalization
And there's something refreshing about that. But I balance that with JD Vance. And I've heard this from people today, undecided people today who have, who felt like JD Vance kind of normalized things yesterday. Like, okay, this is an election between two sides who disagree on economic policy or they disagree on border policy. And that's what Vance and Trump want. Like, just a normal difference of opinion election between a Republican and Democrat. That makes me scream. And I worry that will help Trump because. And then I'll shut up and suze. You get the final word. But I hear from so many people in the middle, undecided, who tell me every freaking day, Joe, I know Trump's an asshole.
Concerns for the Future
I know he's, like, bad. But Kamala Harris and the Democrats, they want to do bad things. And I, and I don't really know where she stands enough. And if you normalize Trump to a voter like that, I worry that he'll vote for Trump. So I just don't know. Yeah, it's really a strange dichotomy, because I'm with you with that. But what I saw happen, I've not seen this character turn like this. And it was because he didn't do what we all. Because I agree, the disturbing element last night was his lack of pouncing, if you will, normalized it. What he had called we. That's an issue.
Finding Perspective
But with, but with a voter we may not know about, that is on the fence. That's the other piece that, you know, it's really tricky, isn't it? Well, it's Susie. And I'll get the last word. Ha. See how I did that? You're right. And it's. It's like this tricky balance that we're all going through. Look, all of us want to end the hate and the division, right? Like, we're all at each other's throats. We got to put our weapons down and learn how to get along no matter what. Like, we all want that. We're sick of going on Fox and MSNBC and just hearing the different sides yell at each other.
A Call to Action
But we balance that desire with a. Damn it, Trump's got to lose because this guy would end our democracy. So we got to beat him, and then we can all get along. So, like, I wrestle with that. Hey, thank you so much for the question. I appreciate it. You write. Joe, you and I can talk about this another time, but I actually disagree with you about the idea that Vance won last night. I think that the lack of pouncing was actually probably to his bent to waltz's benefit as much as it was to Vances. Anyways. You know, I probably would call it a draw more than anything else.
Vice Presidential Dynamics
And one of the things I always remind people of is we don't vote for the vice president. And if you look at the, you know, the exit polling people never talk about, you know, boy, that Tim Walls or that, you know, whoever, Joe Biden as vice president. And that's just not what moves people. And the job of the vice presidential candidate is to advance their candidate. And I thought they both did it in different ways last night that were effective. Joel. Sir, you are not Jennifer. This is Stephanie.
Introducing New Voices
And the only thing that I would say to counter that is the biggest difference with JD Vance is that he is the vice presidential candidate to a man who is nearly 80 and really likes his McDonald's. So, Joe. Joe. Joe Walsh, let me introduce you to Stephanie first. Stephanie. Hi, Stephanie. Joe, I know you know Joe. Folks, Stephanie is one of the co founders of women for us jumping in on the conversation here. So go ahead, because I think you're on your way to making a really good point there.
Concerns About Leadership
No, but that is my fear is that the people of America saw him as a viable option when he is one Big Mac away from. From being president and a man who. Is extremely vitriolic and prone to heart attack level anxiety. Anxiety and anger. And so I do think that there's a biggest difference between JD Vance and Tim walls in that way is that he is so much closer. He is the heartbeat away. Right. And by the way he's just as misogynistic as Donald Trump.
Framing Political Narratives
But to someone that one of our other speakers point, you know, lipstick on a pig, he, you know, he's much better at framing it, you know, and at the language and narrating it the way it put, you know, bringing narrative to it. Excuse me. Than Trump is. Joe, you have another question coming your way from Joel. Joel, you're up. Oh, g'day, guys. I'm actually from Australia. I watched the debate yesterday on X, which was quite a welcome.
International Perspectives
But, yeah, thanks for having me up here. Appreciate you. Appreciate you, Joe. Longtime fan of Joe. But, yeah, I would actually look, from an outsider's point of view, I would absolutely say that it was at least a one all draw. But I think. Joe, what do you think about the end of the debate, though? Whenever the election denial came up and essentially JD Vance did the three times denial thing and, you know, denied his lord and Xavier the Constitution, I thought that looked pretty bad for Vance.
Debate Perceptions
And the other thing that I thought looked pretty bad for Vance was when he talked over the moderators, that actually looked like poor form to me. But I know the Republicans don't see it that way. No, Joey, utterly disqualifying. Right? Did Donald Trump lose the 2020 election? And you can't say he did. That's utterly disqualifying. I wish that had happened earlier in the debate, but the Harris campaign, they were up this morning with a commercial with that on in the battleground states.
Campaign Strategies
So I do think that is an issue, and I do think that will help the Harris Walls campaign. I just like. And no matter what happens this November, JD Vance is really good on tv. He's a. He's. He's every bit as MAGA. As Trump, but he's really good on tv. He was a better spokesperson for Trump and Trumpism last night than Trump is. So I think he almost solidified himself as the era parent, the MAGA era parent in 2028.
Future Implications
But, Joel, you're right, man. That answer alone is why every american should vote against Trump and Vance. That was a great question. Yeah, it really puts things in, you know, into context. Ingrid, you're next, if you can. There we are. Hi, Jennifer. Hi, Emily. It's good to hear from you, Ingrid. Yes, it's great to be here. And thank you for giving me the mic. Jo, I've been following you for a while, and thank God that you are.
Perspective from a Patriot
You have really turned around. Turn yourself around. But I want to say we have to give more credit to Americans in this country. Country. And Joel is right. That last statement where vans could not say what? You know, where he avoided that question, that answer, I should say that alone is a disqualifier. And I know you guys been having the space, but with all the stuff that hit the fan today, these two people are toast. I have been going and spaces having my feeling because I'm from Venezuela.
Critical Observations
I came here in 1969 and I see things very differently. I am a patriot to heart. I believe in the constitution. I believe it's a structure, it's a construct. And I don't like how we ignore it. And so far, we've been ignoring the 14th amendment 14.3 for a very long time. And it's about time that we start taking our governments more serious.
Civic Education and Democracy
Have demand that civic be taught in schools because we're dumbing down the population where people think they're reinventing the rules, right? They reinventing this project 25. And I love the fact that you guys are out there making sure that we stay on top. And I always believe that the way we're going to save our democracy, our constitutional republic, is when the two parties get together and do the right thing. Right now it is Harris and walls. Last night was a performance. We already know what Vance is. He's evil. He's also racist, as far as I'm concerned, for the lie that he told about the guys, the Haitians in Springfield and his attitude about women's, women's rights. And I believe in choice. Because choice, that's what it is, choice. I don't like anybody taking my agency away, and I shouldn't. No woman should be allowed to allow a man to take the agency away.
Supporting Women's Rights and Justice
So yes, I do believe that we are on the right path. And I think now with Jack Smith redacting all this stuff, now we really get to see that Trump did engage in criminal activities to remain in power. And that's not immune, okay? That does not pass the smell test. And yes, they're both going down. And as long as the ones that continue to aid and abet them, they are going to be going down, too. So let's be optimistic, guys. We are going to win this one. We are going to take our country back to where it needs to be. Not going back where we didn't have rights, going, taking it back so we could continue moving forward. And thank you for allowing me to do my little ranting here. And Jennifer, I appreciate you, too. Thank you, Ingrid.
Election Denialism and Accountability
But Jo sheets brings up a good point that I'd love you to address. You can set aside the whole rest of the campaign. Just last night, alone on the stage, Vance said he refused to answer the question about whether or not it was a legitimate election, you know, whether Trump won or lost. He continued to advance lies about the immigration status of the Haitians in Springfield, and there was a third one there that just left my brain. Blayton. Lies that he was, he more artfully paints when he's discussing them than Donald Trump does. How does he get away with that? How does Ian, why do people, what is he doing that people believe him, that they buy into it and they're ready to follow him almost the way that they're ready to follow Trump?
Vance's Responsibility and Public Perception
Well, he, Jennifer, and this goes to my biggest beef. He got away with it last night because nobody called him to the carpet on it last night. JD Vance is singularly responsible almost for the whole. Haitian migrants are eating your pets. They're eating your cats and your dogs. Right? My God, he should have been ripped for that last night. The average, by the way, I think it was a really big number of people who watched last night. I think I saw like a 67 million number. Could that be? Wow, that's really big. But that would be amazing. No, I saw, I could be wrong. I saw a huge number. I'll, I guarantee you a bunch of people tuned in last night not really knowing who either one of these guys were, and you turned the sound off or even kept the sound on, and you didn't know who JD Vance was, and you didn't know everything that's come out about him the last couple months.
Perception vs Reality
You didn't know everything he said, every ugly, cruel, misogynistic, bigoted, xenophobic thing he's said in the last two months. If you didn't know any of that and you just tuned into him on the stage last night, you'd think, what? This is a pretty normal guy, pretty cool. He's a thoughtful guy. He's a nice guy. Look at the way he's treating Tim Walls. I mean, so none of that was present. This is a man. This is a man who, JD Vance, who has, is directly responsible for the lives of every haitian migrant in this country being under threat. And yet, I, I didn't get that impression last night. Right? That's not, that's not the moderator's job.
Understanding Roles and Responsibilities
Certainly JD Vance isn't going to bring that up. That's Tim Walsh's job, to be America, to represent America, and to be damn outraged about what JD Vance did. Righteously outraged. I just didn't get any of that. Yeah. And the fact. Sorry, this is Stephanie again. And the fact that these are JD Vance's constituents. These are the people that he is sworn. Not just sworn, elected and then sworn to protect. And, you know, Springfield has other fames, right, because of cartoons. But these are the people that he has sworn to represent. And he has done everything but that.
Consequences of Representation
He has brought the hell that he has wrought to that community, just in and of itself, not to mention the haitian community writ large. But I just think that he hasn't been elected to represent them for very long. But I think of the people that have represented their states for years and decades, and they would never think of doing such a thing, of calling out one of their communities in this way and bringing negative attention. And it is his job to protect them. And he has done the exact opposite. Look, look, let's be real, guys. The Harris Walls campaign is run by real smart people.
Campaign Strategies and Expectations
I know they think they know what they're doing. I wish Kamala Harris held real press conferences and took real tough questions from all sorts of crazy media people. I wish Tim Walls got out there more and took unfiltered questions. But it's their campaign run by smart people doing what they think is best. You either believe this is a normal election and we are going to beat them because of our positions on these issues, are better than their positions on these issues, like most normal american elections. If you believe that, then that dictates how you run your campaign or you believe this is not a normal election.
Authoritarianism and Political Strategy
One of our two major political parties in this country has given up on democracy and has become an authoritarian, embracing cult. This is not normal. This is heightened. This is scary. And if you believe that, and I do, so probably I'd make a lousy candidate right now. But if you believe that dictates how you run. And if I were Kamala Harris's VP, and I were on that stage last night, believing what I believe, I would have smiled at JD Vance right at the beginning. I respect you. Trump picked you. You're the republican party nominee to be not picked to be VP. But dammit, you and Donald Trump are a threat to democracy.
Confronting Challenges in Campaigning
And I'm not going to be a jerk and I'm not going to get personal, but I am fed up with what you are doing to the democracy and our rule of law. And I would have gone after him hard and respectfully, believing this is nothing, a normal election. Clearly, walls and Harris chose not to do that last night. And maybe I'm dead wrong. No, I could be dead wrong on the, you know, my impression as we walked away from it as well, because you're convincing me clearly, these are important issues, top of the line issues, and they didn't get the kind of outraged response that they should have last night.
Final Thoughts on Engagement
There's no question about that. Folks, it's a couple minutes after eight. This is going to have to be our last question. Brian, you've been waiting a long time. We would love to give you the chance to jump in here and then we're going to have to wrap things up after that. Thanks, Jennifer. And a big fan of all the work you've done, the Lincoln project. And Emily, nice to meet you. Just great to see this crowd. And then Joe, course, I really appreciate. By the way, by the way, Brian, can I interrupt just real quickly? Yeah.
Appreciation for Contributions
Everybody listening to us right now needs to echo and appreciate what Brian just said. Jennifer Horne is a Godsend and she's been working in this vineyard for a long time. She works her fanny off and we should all be so thankful for everything Jennifer does and has done that. Let's focus on JD Vance and Donald Trump. Go for it, Brian. Thank you, Joe. Back to you, Brian. Oh, of course. And the, you know, I'm a Democrat in Texas and, you know, I would love to think that I would have the courage to do what all of you are doing is putting country over party.
Strategic Messaging for Campaigns
I would like to think I could, but I just want to expand the gratitude to everybody who is doing that, everybody on this call and all the Republicans for Harris. The question is, I think the similar thread that's been going on is what would you recommend to the Harris campaign to message this? It seems like there's a good opportunity with the Jack Smith case coming out, some of the details being unsealed. Tim Walz did land that one blow at the end of the debate. That that kind of ties into that right of election denialism. How do we do it is a fine line.
Tactical Approaches to Election Strategies
Do you pounce too much? Do you overdo it? Or do they do every day? Do they wake up every day and say they are attracted to democracy and switch to that? Or what would you recommend is really the question to 33 days left. Hey, Brian, it's a great question. And what I would recommend the Harris campaign probably would not accept. I will just remind everybody, though. This is one thing I loved about Joe Biden. In 2020 and again in 2022, Joe Biden privately was beaten over the head by his smartest advisors and consultants, and he was told, drop the whole threat to democracy bullshit.
Campaign Messaging – Past and Future
Drop it, mister President. Drop it. You know, focus on the economy, focus on the price of bread and milk and blah, blah. And Biden, to his credit in 2020 and 2022, ignored his advisors, and he made this unique threat to democracy a central part of both his 2020 campaign and the 2022 midterms. And I think it worked. Remember the big red wave in 2022? That didn't happen. Joe Biden, I think, deserves a lot of credit for blunting the big red wave because he wouldn't let go of this. This is not normal, folks. There is something going on.
Advice for Future Campaigns
So clearly, Brian, if I'd have been advising the vice president, Kamala Harris, from the beginning, I would have. You don't need to be a jerk about it. You don't need to be mean about it. Be an american about it. You love this country. You're so concerned for this country. We ain't never been here before. The nominee of one of our two major political parties. Brian, think about this. I wish this had been. You know what, Brian? I'm going to filibuster. Jennifer. Damn it, I'm filibustering.
Conclusions on Campaign Dynamics
Nobody leave. Emily, don't let anybody hang up. Every. Lock the wind. Lock the doors. Lock the doors. Brian. If I were Kamala Harris, her closing statement in that debate that she just ran circles around Trump on a few weeks ago, Kamala Harris should have looked at the audience and said this. There's going to be an election on November 5, and one of us is going to win, and one of us is going to lose America. We know this. If I lose, I am going to accept the result.
Commitment to Democratic Principles
I am going to concede. I'm going to congratulate Mister Trump, and I am going to participate in the peaceful transfer of power in America. Donald Trump has said he will do none of those things again. He did none of them in 2020. He's promising to do none of them again. Brian, you get my point. She loves this country. We've never been here. I think they, you can't just say like, I don't think she can just ride a joyful vibe.
Challenges in Political Campaigning
She can't ride a vibe and get elected. I don't think she can. And I don't think she can beat him if it's just a normalized election. You have to, with respect and passion, show the american people the threat he is because we've never had this before. I don't know that she'll do that. I wish she would. Joe. That's a great point. I love it. Brian, that was a great question. You know, as much as I and others, I believe, are moved by her optimism and her positivity and all of that, she has to be.
The Importance of Contrast in Campaigns
And that's kind of a, that's a basic, you know, campaign 101. The candidate has to be the one to be able to draw the stark contrast and make the bold statements about, it's not just why me, it's why not the other guy? We all want to believe politics can be all Mary Poppins and singing songs as we've come in on our flying umbrella, but the candidate has to be the one who is willing to make the bold, aggressive contrast with the other candidate. And maybe there's not enough of that. I don't know if I agree with that or not.
Gratitude for Contributors
Joe, as always, you are a rock star. We're very grateful. Thank you so much for being with us. Thank you, everybody. God bless. 33 days. Go, go. And before you hang up, folks, I want to thank you for being here. Women for us will be back next Wednesday, and I also just want you to stay with us long enough. I want to introduce, reintroduce one of the founders of women for us, Stephanie Sharp from the. I want to say from the beautiful state of Kansas.
Celebrating Contributions and Campaign Efforts
But Stephanie is always on these calls with us, and she usually opens them up for us, but today she's going to close it out for us. Stephanie, can you hear us? Okay, I can. Thanks for having me back on. And I'm actually, I live in a, the Kansas City area. Go, chiefs. And. But I'm celebrating my birthday today in the swing state of Nevada, so happy birthday. I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna ask what kind of facility you're visiting in Nevada, but go right ahead.
Acknowledging Allies and Supporters
I was at a pool earlier, so there you go. But we are so grateful to Jennifer and her support as not only one of our honorary advisors, but as a strategic advisor for us and strategist, as well as Joe, who is one of our favorite characters, but also an important ally and such a passionate voice. I tweeted out as part of our women for us conversation tonight that you never, ever pro tip in the campaign world. You never, ever want to follow Joe Walsh, if you ever.
Focus on Strategic Goals
That's right. So we just adore Joe and his candor and his speaking truth to power. And so I'm very thankful to him and to Jennifer for their support and for this important conversation. Want to also note that we added Sophia Kinzinger as one of our honorary advisors this week. And also for those of you that are listening, we put in a six figure ad buy into Pennsylvania last week. And so we are on the ground in Pennsylvania. We are very active and making sure that our messaging gets out to republican women there in a very important swing state.
Women for Us and Their Mission
Women for us is an organization of republican women activating republican women to defeat Trump this year. And what is the best way that we can do that is by electing Kamala Harris. So it's not just skipping this election, which I'm not also going to browbeat you for. If you were a two time Trump voter or a one time Trump voter and you want to skip the top of the ballot or write in somebody else, you do you. But we know that skipping the election or writing in someone else is a 50% victory, and we'll take that a 100% victory.
Strategies for Success in Politics
A two time exponential increase to defeating Donald Trump is to vote for Kamala Harris. So just in those swing states. So we have a very narrow, laser focused, a very much a strategic target. So we'd love to have your support. Visit women, the number four us.org for more information about us. We would love to have your financial support. And we are here every week on spaces on Wednesdays at 06:00 p.m. central. I'm very grateful for everyone for joining us tonight and for Joe for being our special guest and as always, for Jennifer for hosting everyone.
Closing Remarks and Looking Ahead
Have a wonderful October 2 and we'll talk to you next week. Fantastic. Thank you, Stephanie. Everyone, have a great week. We will see you next Wednesday with Sophia Kinzinger.
