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The Twitter Space FOMO HOUR: markets down, tensions rise in Middle East, news, and more hosted by farokh. In the FOMO HOUR space, the President of DASTAN delved into the impact of market fluctuations, geopolitical tensions, and breaking news on investor decisions. Discussions highlighted the importance of diversification, risk management, and staying informed through media platforms for navigating uncertain market conditions. Experts emphasized the role of macroeconomic indicators, diverse perspectives, and expert insights in enhancing market understanding and decision-making.
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Questions
Q: How does market volatility impact investor decisions?
A: Fluctuations can lead to fear or greed, influencing buy or sell actions.
Q: Why are geopolitical tensions significant for financial markets?
A: They can affect commodity prices, investor confidence, and global trade.
Q: What role do media platforms like RugRadio and DecryptMedia play in market analysis?
A: They provide insights, news updates, and expert opinions for informed decision-making.
Q: Why is diversification crucial for investors during uncertain times?
A: Spreading investments lowers risk exposure to one asset class or market.
Q: How can risk management help investors during market fluctuations?
A: Setting stop-loss orders, diversifying, and staying informed assist in managing risks.
Q: Why is staying updated on news sources essential for market participants?
A: Current events impact markets, making up-to-date information crucial for decision-making.
Q: How does expert advice aid in navigating market uncertainties?
A: Insights and strategies from experts offer guidance on adapting to changing market conditions.
Q: Why is engaging with diverse viewpoints beneficial in understanding markets?
A: Different perspectives help in forming well-rounded market analyses and decisions.
Q: What should investors consider when analyzing macroeconomic indicators?
A: Factors like GDP, inflation rates, and employment statistics provide insights into economic health.
Q: How do news events influence investor behavior in financial markets?
A: Announcements on policies, economic data, or geopolitical developments can lead to market movements.
Highlights
Time: 00:15:45
Impact of Market Volatility Exploring how sudden market shifts affect investor sentiment.
Time: 00:25:10
Geopolitical Tensions and Financial Markets Analyzing the effects of global political events on financial assets.
Time: 00:35:22
Role of Media in Market Analysis Understanding how media platforms influence market perceptions and decisions.
Time: 00:45:30
Diversification for Risk Management Discussing the benefits of portfolio diversification in uncertain market conditions.
Time: 00:55:48
Importance of News Monitoring Highlighting the significance of staying updated with relevant news for investors.
Time: 01:05:15
Expert Insights on Market Uncertainties Gaining valuable advice from professionals on managing risks during market fluctuations.
Time: 01:15:29
Value of Diverse Perspectives in Markets Understanding how different viewpoints contribute to comprehensive market analysis.
Time: 01:25:40
Analysis of Macroeconomic Indicators Examining the impact of economic indicators on investment decisions.
Time: 01:35:55
News Events and Investor Behavior Exploring how breaking news can influence market behaviors and trends.
Key Takeaways
- Market volatility impacts global sentiment.
- Geopolitical events like tensions in the Middle East affect financial markets.
- News events can trigger market reactions and investor behavior.
- Media platforms like RugRadio and DecryptMedia play a key role in disseminating information.
- Understanding macroeconomic indicators is crucial for market analysis.
- In uncertain times, diversification is a vital strategy for investors.
- Monitoring news sources is essential for staying informed.
- Risk management is paramount during market fluctuations.
- Regular updates from experts help navigate market uncertainties.
- Engaging with different viewpoints enhances market understanding.
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Channel Subscription Inquiry
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Money Giveaway Announcement
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Morning Greetings and Day Check
Yo, yo. What up? What up? Good morning. Good morning, GMG. Oh, yeah. What day is it? What day is it? What day is it? It's. Is it. Oh, it's Wednesday. Wednesday, October 2, 2024. Four. Four. Look at that. Another beautiful day to have a beautiful day. I got my co host in the house, Tyler Mandel. Good morning. How you guys doing today? Doing great, dude. How are you? I am vibing busy as m effer. How you doing, Tyler? I'm good. Little tired. Stayed up late, past my bedtime to watch the VP debate in full last night.
Discussion on VP Debate
It was. It was a long. Almost two. You make any money? We'll see. The bet's not resolved yet, so. I didn't bet the mentions. I only bet who would win. I don't know. Which horse did you bet on? I bet on waltz. I shared my rationale on Twitter that I thought that Vance would have to win in a landslide to overcome polar bias because the bet resolve is based on like an Ipsos poll. And I think. I think most people agree that Vance won the debate. I'm not sure he won by enough to win in the polls, but we'll see. That's why he's still at 35%, even though people like, universally feel like Vance won. So we'll certainly see.
Betting and Poll Discussion
I bet it should resolve today. I think so. So it results based on what. The. The rules of the bet are. Let me pull up. What are the rules? Like, has a higher percentage in the Ipsos poll. If Ipso, it, ipsos first opinion poll released after the debate, they don't release the poll. It's going to go to this. You gov. And the poll goes to how many? What's the sample size that decides who wins? Yeah, I don't have all the details on that. Interesting. But up until the debate, Vance had been the least liked VP candidate of all time. I actually think he probably changed that last night. I think he was actually very likable last night.
Vance's Performance Reflection
Yeah, it did quite a nice job. But that was kind of weighing in as one of my factors as well, is why I bet on waltz. So it's not looking great. I definitely would rather be on the opposite side right now, but I think there's a shot we still pulled out. Yeah, it's definitely interesting. It's definitely, I thought, I mean, the first half hour I watched, I thought Vance was absent. Cook and waltz, it seems like the whole timeline was agreeing. Like, the whole timeline was like, damn. And it came as a surprise. Right. Because, like, everybody was kind of looking at him. I was like, oh, he's meh. I mean, Mando knows, but we've talked about this with Mando and Ovi before.
Debate Analysis
Like, I always found him, like, weird. Like, at the beginning, I was like, oh. Like, this guy's like, I don't know, he's just not vice presidential. And I much preferred Vivek personally. But yesterday, I have to say, like, he. It was impressive. Like, he was good. He stood his ground. I think the craziest thing is that debate was better than the president. One overall significantly better, is the first time we'd seen a civil us political debate in decades. And the mics were hot. And the mics were hot, too. Yeah. They didn't have to mute people. And yet it still went well.
Vance's Strategy and Respectful Approach
I actually think Vance threw waltz off by how kind and respectful he was. I think Waltz came out, like, a little bit aggressive and then had to kind of tone it back. And it was very, it was a very smart move. I genuinely think that, and I do wish Donald Trump had played that game the first time around, because when you think about it, then they got to him under, when they started getting under him. Kamala played that game. I feel like Wallace played the same game as Kamala, but it didn't work on Vance. You know what I mean? I think the bottom line is, if Trump spoke with the respect that Vance does, he'd be up 70 30 in the election right now.
Debate Impact and Personal Reflections
Yeah. Well, that's gonna be interesting for, man. Did you get through that? Like, go on. I just felt like the highlights of that debate were just more civil. I don't know. Yeah, that's kind of. I remember the old debate. It was a great debate, Mando. Honestly, like, I was, like, listening to it. I remember the president one, like, I was like, I shut it down. This one, I just shut down because I was tired. But, like, I was actually, like, I kind of liked listening to it. I don't explain, but it was good. So I guess we'll see.
Market Trends and Future Predictions
You still have a year. You're still in the game, Tyler. Are you going to cut your losses? Are you going to go all the way? I'm not going to cut. I think the one mistake that Vance made, I think he was forced to. But the last question they asked him, his thoughts on January 6 and the election, if Trump actually lost it, he wouldn't say no. I think he was kind of forced to because of, like, the party line or whatnot. But, like, that did leave kind of a lasting mark on a lot of voters. I've actually, like, CNN's interviewed people who said that was their deciding factor. So I think that was his only really mistake.
Debate Evening Insights
But it also, you know, he might have been told he has to answer that way. Yeah, look, I think overall was a great debate. We'll see who wins. I was, I texted before the debate, I was like, I was kind of bound to take the counter consensus trade on Vance. Yeah. You want advance? It was a good bet. I mean, sucks. He was 30% before, so they flipped, basically. Yeah. Even lower. I think a little before, like in the twenties. I think when we started to show yesterday was in the twenties.
Current Market Report
So. So it's not a bad call. Anyways, today on the show today, market report, as usual. So obviously, yesterday was a pretty bad day for the market day seems okay, but we'll see what happens for obvious reasons, but we'll cover that. We have, you know, boots on the ground. Mando, political warfare expert, who's gonna to see what's going on. We don't have Cali today, so we should have brought Cali on today, actually, Mando, to talk about the political side. Tyler's top 1000. Let's see what Tyler has in store for us.
Tyler's Insights and Upcoming Topics
I think you have quite a few things today. I saw that XRP news, etcetera. And then again, Robert spin. So every single day this week, we're going to do the same thing next week, I think, except Mondays because we only have four, but we'll pick somewhere at the end, you know, Rafflebot XYZ at this stage. Rafflebot XYZ is a website you have to apply to every week, and you'll get a code at some point during the show, and you'll be able to enter it. And then last but not least, the show is powered by galaxies with seamless built in monetization tools.
Galaxies and Show Structure
Galaxies enables the development of sustainable, long term communities, fulfilling bitcoin's vision of decentralized freedom and independence from centralized control. But anyways, anyways, it is. Let me lower this. Boom, bang, boom, bam. Mando. Mando. Mando. Mando. What's going on? This market? Can you dig it? Gm? So it did escalate and looked like we had a bunch of different missiles fired from Iran to Israel that caused markets to kind of take a nosedive.
Market Reactions to International Events
Crypto definitely continues to be affected more than other markets, I would say, by war, which has really surprised me. Like, we continue whenever there's any sort of flare up in geopolitics, it always feels like bitcoin gets hammered and all of crypto gets hammered. I think people are just scared of, like, liquidation wicks a lot in crypto, which are quite common, and like, cascading liquidations. So you tend to get like, we really underperform when a tail event, the chances of a tail event increase. That being said, overnight, there wasn't really much of a response so far.
Market Stability Post-Event
There may be one today. We'll wait and see. That could continue to flare up. It does feel like oil was the main macro move on the back of that, because there is some threat to the iranian oil field. So oil went above 70, but above 70, it's been down only for a long time. It's really just bouncing back from getting destroyed all year. You saw gold rally bitcoin go lower, which I thought was pretty interesting. Again, you've seen that divergence between the two of them.
Stock Market Trends
The stock market doesn't seem that bad today it was down, but defense stocks higher, that sort of stuff. Of course. How much is Pelosi up on her? Did Pelosi make any trades before Iran striked on Israel? Pelosi is always up, man. Pelosi is always up. Have you guys seen this guy on Twitter that's been copy trading her? And have you guys followed his. His thing? Yes, he's some absurd.
Profiting from Pelosi's Trades
He's up like 400k this year. Have you seen that, man? I feel like, you would appreciate that this is bored ape. And he literally has a Nancy Pelosi, like, copy trading bot set up to a discord where everybody can copy her. And I love it. And so yet on July 1, for example, she was up 1.7 million a day. But, like, he keeps, like, giving updates of, like, where he's at, right? So can't always win.
Trading Insights and Market Analysis
So right now he's up to, like, 300k on the wallet based on Pelosi's trades. And it's so funny that he'll share, like, all the trades. I thought that was funny. But anyways. Yeah. So stocks higher. Gold higher. Bitcoin lower. Nice. Yeah, it's one of those sort of days I feel like people are just waiting to see what happens now. I just feel like there's gonna be some sort of response, but hopefully this doesn't escalate anymore.
Market Watch and Bitcoin Dynamics
And this has been, like, the one tail event, I think, from now until year end. Like I said, it probably was worse than I expected yesterday, as in, like, I didn't think it would be as bad. And then now let's see. So that's going to be the main thing. Pushing around markets. It felt like bitcoin dominance rose. So we'd be speaking about it going down to 57%. It went up to 57.5, which kind of makes sense. In the dump, you've seen Sui.
Emerging Trends in Sui and Meme Coins
Sui just keeps going. Right. It barely was lower yesterday and it's higher again today. So Sui approaching up on 20 billion FTV. We actually saw a sui mudang coin, I think 120 million. No way. Hippo. Yeah. It's the first meme coin I've seen on Sui. It's called hippo. Wow. Sue is 188. Yeah. So no dips on Sui.
Market Performance and Coin Progression
It feels like at the moment, but, yeah. I saw a sui meme coin make its first move. It's the first time I've seen it on deck. Screener. So one to watch. The other one was DJ, which kind of came back. I think we'll have Tyler will probably, well, I know Tyler will mention that given he was tweeting about it, but, yeah, that was. Sui's definitely been the major winner was this. It's about to hit all time.
Sui's Market Position and Historical Context
Easily at a market cap. All time high right now. Easily. Oh, yeah, market cap. You're right because it's huge. There's been some pretty big dilutions over this period, so Sue's been our complete tear. If you've caught that, were mentioning that on the show below a dollar. Definitely below a dollar. No, it was built. It was like, it was like at. So it's at a pretty crazy run so far.
Market Comparisons and Observations
That one and Tao have been the best performers over the last couple of months, at least in the standard old coins away from meme coins. But I think they have a bridge that went live on Mainnet.
Bridging to Sui
So you're able to bridge to Sui now from ETH and potentially even Solana as well. So you might see TVL increase pretty markedly from here. So maybe it makes sense to bridge some money over to Sui if you have some, just to play around. It does feel like if the chains at 20 billion, you're going to see a few more potentially ten x plays from ecosystem coins, that sort of stuff. You saw hash decks, which is one of the ETF providers, launch an XRP, or look like they are going to launch an XRP ETF. So people are now getting bullish on the back of that. Although it was a pretty bearish day for the other ETF's.
Market Movements and Bitcoin ETF
I think the bitcoin ETF had probably the largest outflows, had, of course, in about a month, ETH actually had a very big outflow as well, particularly at the Fidelity ETF. And I think we saw around 500, just over 500 million, 20 million of liquidations yesterday. So a decent move down. I think that 60k level. Hold on, held on bitcoin, which is what a lot of people are looking at. That was like the previous. Sorry, a lot of lines. Yeah. So that 60K level, I think 58k is the other. I just put these because this is where I want to remind myself to bid. I'm still waiting. Mando, not jumping on. I think yesterday was a prime example of, like, if you were looking to get long, yesterday was a real day to get. To get long. Like, you can only people forget that, like, the reason why the price is lower is because something bad is happening.
Market Reactions and Opportunities
Yes. And yesterday feels like a prime example of something, that something bad was happening. It feels terrible, but you get opportunities along it and you can. I still think there's going to be clearly some sensitivity around what happens over the next 24, 48 hours, but I'm optimistic still on that front. So I think, as I said this morning, I think we could look back on this at year end and be like, wow, that was such an obvious point to go long. Traditionally you meant to buy these sort of dips on, like, war and flares up in, like, aggression between countries. So I kind of agree with that. I think this is going to be an obvious song eth, man. Eth just cannot catch a beard. Right. I have to say, this looks disgusting, bro.
Ethereum's Performance and Concerns
Just cannot catch a beard. Underperformed yesterday, it looks like stole ETH is going back to break out to new highs again. I just. Let's look at it. Yeah, I have it saved. Oh, wow. Oh, fuck. Yeah. I mean, fuck. I mean, that's good for me, but. That chart looks like it's going higher to me. Oh, my lord. That's excessively higher. Low. But is it going higher? The question is it going higher on Solana going higher on Eth? Going lower. You know what I mean? Like, EtH didn't have a great day. Solana didn't have a great day yesterday either. How strong, though, he's been hanging out flat. How strong is kind of where it's been against bitcoin for a while via ETh.
Interplay Between Cryptocurrencies
Any period of ETH performance just gets hammered. Let's look at Sol BTC here. I don't have that one saved here. Yes, it's been. See, it's been literally the same chart as, like, the kind of where it's. Been, like, for ages. Yeah, it's the same as the launch chart. Right. What do you say? Where's the Tyler said looks like a bull flag? Yeah, it's like the same. It's the same chart as Lily Solana and bitcoin charts. Like, these two charts are very similar. And look at them. And then you have the Ethereum charts. I mean, it's going to be a point in time where, like, longing Eth is going to pay off.
Reflections on Investing in Ethereum
I just. I feel like man was funny this cycle. Every time we've tried, we wanted to, like, bash our heads against the wall with the. With Ethereum. Even early on the show, we used to talk when you mean Ovi were hosting still. We used to say, like, okay, let's give it a shot. And it was like, just. No, just, I don't want to go. So when we first started this show, ETh was just. Eth was money. Ultrasound money. Like, it would be impossible to keep eating your wallet because it was like, I need to spend it. I need to, like, I need to buy something.
Economic Insights and Inflation Concerns
It's. Yeah. And the supply chain. This is not great, right? It's not ultrasound money right now, but it'll be. It'll be fine. It'll be fine. Don't worry, y'all. Oh, God. Gas is actually spiked quite a lot, but, God, yes, it's inflationary, for sure. It's definitely 30,000 eats inflation. 30 days, something like that. Sorry. 50,040. 49.4k. So that's where we're at. Yes. Don't talk about an eth pop. Exactly. NFT. Right. We won't, we won't say anything. Don't you worry.
Concerns Over Geopolitical Tensions
For me personally, man, I don't know what you're expecting here, but I'm just waiting to see if we get slightly under 60k. My only concern, and I said yesterday, I don't think I'll talk about on the show, is like, what happens if, when Israel decides to retaliate to Iran's attacks yesterday, because they clearly, despite them, not, you know, seems like they didn't really, you know, kill many people, but despite that, it still hit the ground. So it's like you'd expect Israel. Plus Netanyahu, who literally said himself that he's going to retaliate. So we'll see.
Potential Escalation and Outcomes
I just don't know if he's going to retaliate today and tomorrow because today's Rosh Hashanah. So today's the jewish new year. So actually happy, you know, new year to those celebrating today. But. So I don't know. I don't know if what happens there. I'm just worried about that. You know what I mean? Like, all it takes is one Walter Bloomberg headline saying Israel sending missiles towards Iran, and then boom, we're at 59k. You know what I mean? Yeah. So it has multiple options here. It can attack the oil fields, which is Iran's current, basically form of income.
Impact on Iran and Global Oil Prices
Iran's been crippled to a large extent or very badly hurt by sanctions, but oil remains to be one of their main income sources. And obviously with the BRICS countries, they've been able to sell quite a lot of it. So they could attack that. And Iran obviously has huge oil fields, one of the biggest oil producing countries in the world. If they were to go really aggressive, they could attack the iranian nuclear facility, which they have danced around attacking before. They kind of attacked it through a computer virus few years back, but they could go after that. That would be a real escalation.
Uncertainty and Global Responses
That being said, I did read yesterday that I'm not sure if it was 100% confirmed that the iranian missiles were going after the israeli nuclear facility, which is in the Najev desert. So maybe they feel like that's tip for tat, who knows? Or they could go after air bases, which is what the Iranians seemingly went after. They went after mainly air bases. Obviously, there was like fragments of other missiles that hit other things. It doesn't seem like necessarily everything hit is intended target, but the main air base that they went after, which is also was evacuated beforehand.
Current Situation and Posturing
And as far as I'm aware, all the planes were in the sky because they were already warned about it. So, I mean, I just don't know. A lot of war seems to be posturing. Right? Right. So I honestly don't know. Like, obviously this is a wider conflict. So, like, Iran backs Hezbollah. So when Israel, it's so clearly obvious now. Like, you know, they're, when Israel attacks Iran attacks Israel because they're, it's all very linked. So maybe they think that the real objective here is just to clear out Hezbollah, who's a much closer enemy.
Alternative Strategies and Diplomacy
Right. And then maybe that, maybe it ends. So. Or, you know, I was thinking maybe they push, maybe they try and push through some form of diplomacy here, like Saudi Arabia. Maybe they try and do a deal and be like, look, you know, recognize us. It doesn't feel like the Saudis in Iran are going to be friends anytime soon. I don't think so. But at this point with Biden, where he is, like, this is why I put that tweet out yesterday.
Political Landscape and U.S. Involvement
It's like if there was the right person in place, I really do think a deal could be done. There's nobody home in America. With where we're at. And I feel like that's a real issue. And I'm not saying necessarily Kamala won't be able to help that. But right now you need somebody that can really navigate through this diplomacy, and it doesn't feel like we have that. We definitely. There's nobody home. Do you have any thoughts on that, Tyler, before I kind of move forward to the tops and stuff or.
Predictions for Future Engagement
Yeah, I think it's tough because I feel like if Israel doesn't respond, it just means the conflict is going to keep moving, which I think is this means that we're going to continue having this overhang and the escalation will come the future, the part of me thinks they will respond and perhaps that will lead us getting past the conflict sooner. I don't know. It is tricky. I don't know that we're out of the woods yet. It was a little frustrating yesterday.
Bitcoin's Correlation with Gold
One of the pitches for bitcoin is digital gold. Then when you see it diverge from gold performance, and granted, on a short term timeframe, but that doesn't really help enforce thesis. Bob Lucas made a good point here. He said not to discount rocket attacks, but the S and P was way overdue. Its daily normal cycle, the normal daily cycle decline. So the path was already there. I tend to see him as a high signal trader public. I think you do too, right, Tyler?
Trends in the Crypto Market
But he did tweet digital gold not acting very good gold, like, so that was a good tweet. But he said, someone answered, BTC does not do well during war like situations if Internet goes down. And he said, the Internet is not going down, which is true. Like, even now with Starlink, Internet is less likely to go down. You know, you have Elon doing God's work here on the Starlink side. But yeah, it's true. Like, we're still not there, right?
Current State of Crypto and Regional Factors
And we saw things yesterday such as that. So we'll see where it goes. I'm still not convinced we go long. One thing is, though, and I want to go to Tyler after this. I got to give Gainesy some shouts here on this show. This MF, he got his building, literally got hit, right? And he was stuck behind a door, and he was still shitposting. Did you guys see that yesterday? I saw this yesterday. Obviously hoping, like, Ginsey's good and that he's going to be fine.
Acknowledgment of a Colleague's Resilience
Definitely. You know, would hate to hear anything bad, but he said that was honestly, guys, CTM efforts are just built different. This guy tweeted yesterday amidst the attack, said, bro, I dodged SBF for two years on maximum leverage. No rocket is taking me out. This has got to be one of the craziest tweets I've seen in my life on CT. How about you guys? And then he tweeted that his doors jammed, that he stuck, so he can't get to the bomb shelter, and he goes, his next tweet is, I was wondering why I want eight and o sports betting.
Conclusion of the Discussion
Too good to be true. Balance in it. So. And then the following tweet is that he made it out. And then. And then the tweet this morning. And then the tweet is like, I need a fucking cigarette. So. And then it's a ca. So it's like, you know, I have to say, like, casey, hope you're well. Hope you'll. Hope you'll be fine. We're with you, dude. And, you know, much respect. And he was like, I'm not going back to America. I'm doing Rosh hashanah with my family here, and I'm drinking all the wine I have.
Discussion on ETFs
Yeah you're right. Like ETF's aren't a guarantee. Absolutely. Anymore I agree with you. There was one thing though. There was a tweet that I liked from Nate Jurassic here. I like this tweet a lot. He said bit wise positioning to file extra PTF is highly noteworthy. Mio in short term this is likely call option November election. So we've talked about this on the show, right. About different ETF's depending on who wins then. But bit wise is highly credible crypto native fund firm that doesn't just throw stuff at a wall, that's simply not in their DNA. This is strategic. So broader crypto. I guess it's good, right? Yeah. And they must think there's some, there's a demand for it. Right.
Investment Insights
So I guess they brought in 325 million for their ETH. So they're catching some. Some solid inflows on that. That puts them. They were the main people. Right. Like pushing the ETTF like that. Are they higher than blackrock here? Yeah, so they're. Yep, they're like gobbling 5 billion. So they're number three. Yes, they're doing pretty well. They're gobbling all that ethers. Tyler and other news still on the Ethereum blockchain. Dude, DJ, what a run. So, yeah, so Jesse Pollack, we talked about this. So he was getting a new position leading Coinbase wallet and then also getting placed on the Coinbase executive team. They actually refreshed their exec team on their website. It's funny because you see Jesse Paul punk stats posted about that. I thought that was interesting.
Jesse Pollack's New Role
Then. Yeah, first day the job gets DJ enlisted, then he tweets about it. DG's coming to Coinbase for everyone. Can't stop, won't stop growing the base economy. So this tweet was very important. I think it was, I interpreted as him. It's kind of signing off. Like this was me and I'm going to continue pushing for base. And I think that's why we saw the base meme ecosystem respond the way we did yesterday. In reality, the whole, I think most of the core theses behind the base memes were they would have an easy, easier path to getting listed on Coinbase than perhaps just your general market name.
Market Dynamics and Sentiment
And now. But they weren't. We had no evidence of that. Now we have our first piece of evidence that in fact, that might be the case. Degen pumping pretty hard. And then Ken Watana, I followed him for a while. He actually made a pretty interesting bull case for Djen. He basically said Colt coin listed on Coinbase, still like six x from all time high. Yeah, I'm bidding. So we forgot how high this thing went. DJ went to like 600,000,700 for you. No, no more. That was. That was forecaster peak days. That was billions. It went to 2 billion for sure. I remember seeing oneplus for sure. Yeah, yeah, this went. Look, this went this.
Price Movements and Future Potential
Topped at zero six. That's a ten x. Nearly a ten x from here. So. So, yeah, so it's got room to run. So, disclosure, I actually did buy some dj on the news yesterday. I wasn't. I didn't. I might up a little bit. I didn't catch the bottom one. It went to 2.5 billion. I like the upside on this. I think it gets interesting looking at the rest of the base memes. So if you pull. If you go back to the base board. So MFR, I think, was one of the big movers. The pain with which broke just said it went to 2.5 billion. What? I said, the pain in your voice when you said it went to 2.5 billion. Yeah, it is pain in my voice.
Personal Experience and Reflection
You know. You know, I was. You know what's crazy? I was literally, I saw Jesse's tweet. I think I was, like, one of the first people to see it. Literally. It was. It said like 30 seconds on the tweet. And then I saw the thing at 180. I was like, fuck it. Like, let's go. I'll fucking ape this shit. But I had no money on base, so I went on rollbit. I was like, oh, maybe rollbit has it listed as perps. And it was in there. And. And then I went to 380, where it's at now. I caught it so quick. I texted Tyler, actually. I was like, dude, what's.
Trading Decisions and Market Reactions
Then I put in the chats. Like, nobody followed the trade. But it was so obvious. Like, remember turbo? When Turbo had the news of, like, perhaps being listed on perps on Coinbase? And they went, remember we covered on the show? I was like, this is gonna run it back. So I don't know. It just made sense. But you're right, Tyler. It's like thesis of coin, of base means, like, oh, they'll be listed on Coinbase, which was disproved, right? And now it's like, well, it's back on the table. So what do we think here? What do we think, guys? Mando Ty. Like, do we think this is gonna be a meta or.
The Future of the Base Memes
It's just Jesse is a known supporter of forecaster. Known supporter of Djen. They want to support the Djen slash forecaster economy. You can talk your bags. It's okay. I think we're gonna see more memes. I think it's gonna be a slow drip. Like, I don't think he's gonna list five memes. And I think they're gonna have to run up. Look at the rest of the meme board there, a lot of them are pretty low. Put. Put bread aside. Hey, hey. Mark is on base. I'm just putting it out there. I mean, Toshi is the highest at 62 right now. Where's Toshi?
Market Performance Overview
Right there. Niggles is next at 30. Like, I mean, if I had to guess, gun to my head, which one would get listed next? I think I would probably say Toshi. It's been around the longest, got the highest market cap. Isn't it dogging me? That was before that. Or I have zero, zero exposure to anything on base, by the way. Just. I like dogging me. It's. It's a $12 million right now, so I don't think it's good. These were so much higher, bro. I got my base for me is just like, hello, darkness, my old friend. Like, I got obliterated on base.
Reflections on Trading Experiences
Like, yeah, that's why these are interesting right now. Higher. Yeah, yeah. Fuck you, Mando. Dude. Yeah. It was the worst one, right? I was. I remember I just woke up and you were like, I'm at the top, holder. Mando called me to tell me to calm down. I think that weekend, that would be high, right? It's because I had made, like, so much money on boom, that weekend, remember? What's a 300 million? I would. There was a point in time where I was, like, probably top ten biggest holders of NFR.
Discussing Market Trends
Probably. Do you want to test, like, Murad's, like, Marad's thesis? Like, I know MFR is not, like, one of his listed ones, but it has some of those hallmarks, right? Like die hard holder base. I. I mean, DMF. But the thing is, I didn't like that there was beef within, and then it kind of went sideways. But I know a lot of people support it. You know, I love cloud leisure, but he's still in. You know, there are a lot of people are still supporting MF. I still. I mean, I'm. Effort is forever, so we'll see.
Analyzing Current Market Landscape
But, yeah, MFR, you're saying toshi. There was a Miggles one, but said 30 mil, so I don't know. There's now a lot now. The ba. It's like the base meme meta is, like, back on the board now, and we'll see what happens. Right? Speaking of which, Rafflebot XYZ. Raffle bot XYZ. The code today is djen d e g e n. Raffle bot. And by the website works just fine. We keep getting constant. Doesn't work. Website works just fine. Raffle bot XYz I'm pretty sure you can even Google Raffle bought XYz, and it's one of the first ones, but be careful when you do that.
Promotional Offers
So maybe don't do that, but rafflebot dot XYz bought XYZ. The code here is djen. You enter and you can have a chance to win. Robert spin today and every day of the week. Anyways, past the base, not based. Sorry, base meta. Tyler, what else you got for us? Yeah, I mean, other than that. So just quickly on meme. Just rounding it out, I guess. Vlog. Mandev vlog is 130,000,000. It was a huge breakout day, so it's kind of moving into the next tier there. Six straight green candles on the daily.
Looking Ahead
It looks pretty. Yeah, it looks pretty good right now. I don't own any, so not talking my bag here. I didn't think it moved this high this fast. It got the one I'm gonna be sick at 62 mil. When it dipped, I set the screenshot to the chat. I was like, guys, this looks like a good diphtere. It seems like. Hey, it seems like Harold got into it. Mando on the back of that. So good for him. But shout out if he's listening. I know Eric ab seven is big in that.
Community Engagement
Yeah, he's been telling. Yeah, he was talking to me about fog every single day in Japan. So. So I know he's. He's. He's big in. Listen, they're killing it. They're absolutely killing it. 128 million. That's literally two x from the lows. So looks like that is one of the. That is one of the top memes right now. Going to the second wave. Clearly hard to deny. It looks pretty strong. Other than that, it was. I said more of a quiet day.
Political Trends and Market Responses
I think a lot of folks kind of pushed their announcements. With the conflict happening. Fancy top leading into politics, I think the presidential Texas game. This is a fun one. So they're basically making cards for trump and Kamala and AOC and Ted Cruz. And this your leading political Twitter account. So everyone can play for free. So you can get. Yes. Let's make your team here alive. Oh, you got trump. That's. Wait, how does that work?
Understanding the Game Mechanics
Wait, wait. Did I just get lucky? How do I never done tactic. What do you mean? So attached is you get a random set of cards. So I didn't have Trump as an. Yeah, that's good. So who else? Okay, fuck it. Let's go. So you want Marjorie? I think that's her. Marjorie? Yeah. Okay. Holy shit. I got Trump. Let's go. I'm gonna win just for Trump. Oh, Mike Pence has been tweeting a lot because of the Israel thing.
Final Selections and Strategy
All right, so throw Pence in there. I think you need a couple on the blue side, maybe zoom in. It's governor, Gretchen. I don't know how active all their twitters are. I know. I think Nikki Haley's probably good, but you're gonna. You're gonna run into your cap. Oh, yeah. You're out of stars. I'm out of stars. I can't use any stars anymore.
Discussion on Game Strategies
So you have a 24 star cap, so you're gonna have to do a couple low people. So probably do beta. Oh, yeah, why not? Who? Scroll down to the bottom. All right, I'm allowed one more three star. I say get Bernie. Does Bernie even I fuck it. Let's go. Damn. I got. Let's go. I got Donnie Demo for the game. I mean, it's fun, right? Tactic. So nice. It kind of, like, makes the prediction market thing fun. It's like a fun prediction market based on, like, Twitter antics. Yeah. You know, score points based on their engagement, you know, same algorithm as the crypto influencers. There you go. You actually love to see that.
Discussion on AI Influencers and Art
I mean, look, Trump is, like, the number one ex influencer, so, you know, this guy's, like, tens of millions of views on every tweet he puts out. I'm about to cook your asses. Am I gonna win money or something? I mean, yeah, you can win decent money. I don't know the exact prizes, but there's usually at least a few hundred bucks up top. Fire. Fire. Love to see that. What else. What else you got for us, mister Tyler? Yeah, I guess. Not necessarily, like, a trading headline, but the. I think the AI museum was a cool headline from refect, so. Riva Kandahal is one of the most known AI artists out there. He announced the launch of data land. It's coming in 2025. It's gonna be the world's first museum dedicated to AI art.
Details on the AI Art Museum
It's gonna be located in the Grand LA. It's a Frank Gehry designed development in Los Angeles. It's gonna merge digital art, architecture and machine intelligence. It's gonna be set up to allow him to display his. His immersive art, which I think folks who follow him know, like, his. Just, like, looking at it on, like, open seed, it doesn't do it justice. You need to see, like, the immersive experience. Huge screen. Be there in person to really enjoy some of his pieces. So this museum will allow him to do that. It's also going to have a visual archive of his past works. He went on to describe it up, quoting a place where audiences of all ages are transported to new worlds of discovery and inspiration, pushing the boundaries of what's possible in AI. So it's a big day for AI art.
Excitement Around New AI Developments
And hey, maybe now we have a new institution to sell some of our AI art bags to. Dude, good for Danny. Good for Danny and Benny. I know they've been buying art. The boys. The boys been buying art. But you know what's interesting with Danny, we need to get him on because his take on art recently is good. He's been, he's been buying a art, but like from the sixties, like the OG AI art, like that shit's existed forever. Yeah, I think most people don't realize that generative art has existed forever. And so he's been buying some, like, og AI art and whatnot. And lastly, I mean, quickly, what's this Animoca Lamborghini thing? You posted about that too? What's all that about? It's only this motiverse.
Exploration of Motiverse and Lamborghini Collaboration
I know. Motivers. Yeah. They sponsored world ecosystem for racing games. They've got a token, the rev token and that's backed and seated by Animoca. They've got a portfolio of racing games. So that the news here is this Lamborghini and motiverse animal collab partnering with. It's called fast forward. It's going to be a new immersive platform for web three initiatives and they're planning to deliver the world's first interoperable digital car in a feat collection. It's called the Lamborghini Riv Welto. Let's look at it. Sleep. Bring the Lambo to when Lambo. This is fire. Wow. Damn, this is sick trailer.
NFT Utility in Digital Car Environment
That is really cool. And you can play in like all these. Okay, nice. Looks like it's gonna be a utility NFT. So this is their entry key to this broader ecosystem and experiences. It's gonna have a loyalty benefits for their platform and more. This is on the official Lambo website, by the way. That's on lamborghini.com. Yep. Yeah. The Lambo Twitter shared it this morning. So as big of a partnership as you can land. Dude, that is really cool. Let me see this. Oh, they did? No, that's not inside. Oh, they did? Yep. Interesting.
Reactions on Innovative Partnerships
Wow, that's cool. I think this is really cool. Wow. Very, very cool. Anyways, well, there you go. We've seen digital cars before. It's like Porsche did their NFTs something a little bit different. So, yeah, we had mercedes next. Actually, they sponsored our Basel event last year. You had a BMW with the board apes. You have bugatti that did something with Asprey. You have lamborghinis on multiple things at this stage. They even sold a car, I think, in crypto at some point. And there's been a lot of. Okay, cool. Good to see. It's good.
Signals About the NFT Market
It's signals. For me, it signals like, hey, we're doing nfts, right? We're talking about nfts. It's just signal. Signals. Signals everywhere, which are positive. And then for the big cycle, Ferrari start accepting crypto. So, you know, it's. We're getting suddenly dropped anything. But they're starting to get involved in. Like you said, you already mentioned Porsche, so that's good. All right, well, last second. Now to enter the thing, Sims. Let's do it, baby. Let's get the people. You know, let's. Let's see who. Let's see who gets to come up today.
Event Management and Prize Selection
You know, let's. Let's tell the people. All right. Let's see who wins. I like how you can see the names. Axelrod. Axelrod. NFT. Congratulations, Axelrod. NFT. You get to come up on stage and claim Axel rug. Axelrod. Axelrod. NFT. Another very real person. What's the PFP? That's the node monkeys, right? No on chain monkeys. No on chain monkeys. But that was their bitcoin thing, right? Or something else? I think so. He would know more.
Continued Engagement with Participants
He looks like a real count. No, he is definitely real. Let me tell you why he's real. Because he's been retweeting our shit. He's been retweeting a meme land. Axelrod veteran. Yeah. A vet. Thank you for your service. Entrepreneur, crypto and NFTs collector. Meme line, meme coin, stake line, digitized. Gaku. Maxi. Axelrod. Where are you, fam? Where are you? I said Axelrod because it his name. Lee said Axelrod. Rugged here.
Reflections on Past Performances
And I read Axelrod by accident. That's so funny. Whatever happened to digi died. Radio silence for year. I gave what was deep into. One thing I know is they built insane tech that powers all of the nft meta now on Magic Eden. I think that's the wrapping. They built the tech that powers a lot of magic Edens back and. No, but it was royalty enforcement. Yeah. To make it. But now magic kingdoms. Royalty. Magic Eden is gone. Zero. Where's actual rod? Dude? He's not here. Does he not win?
Clarifications and Recap of the Prize Drawing
Because we get. You have to be live here. Yeah, he has to be here. Definitely have to be here. It's one of the rules. Like a Super bowl ad that did say, didn't they spend all the money on the NFL advert? Yeah, he. Then he got racial by thread guy. He was like the biggest thing in nfts for a while. Right? I know. I pay. I fucking bought a digital gaku the night FTX went down for twelve eth. I sold one, like 15 is.
Conclusion of Prize Claiming Process
I bought it like.3 are we respitting, boys? Nice to know I was Tyler's exit liquidity. I mean, the rule is very simple. You have to be real and you have to be live. And right now I'm scrolling through everyone. He's not there. So while he did enter. Oh, he's here. He just saved. Holy shit. You fucking saved yourself, boy. You saved yourself, boy. Oh, my God. All right, there you go. What's up, Axel?
Engaging with the Winner
I'm here, guys. Let's fucking go. Dude. You just give it to me, baby. Give it to me. Give me that tongue, man. What's up? Where are you tuning in from? Texas. Tejas. All right, let's go, baby. Oh, wait, hold on. A punk just sold. I need to replace it. Hold on. Because we can't have you win 70k in cash. Let's pick a punk. Just give me the punk. 1 second. 1 second. A punk just sold anything. Anything.
Final Steps for NFT Selection
Thank you. We'll get you a punk. Awesome, dude. You can. You can manifest a punk. There's no problem here. You can, you can. There you go. I added a punk to the box. All right. I. All right, well, the punks are back down. Listen, I changed things around so we can have a bigger win. I, first of all, the red guys got swept and the red guy was 9.5 east. Second of all, I've doubled the chance of milady's by removing doodles. And I've also upped the chances of the punk slightly by quarter point each.
Preparing for Winner’s Reveal
All right, Axel, are you ready? Always ready, man. Let's go. Well, you win a red guy and they're all. Let's go. Congratulations. Actually, you won red guy 49 two, which are actually, they're up. What? Tyler? Up 0.1 eth overnight, so it's not bad. Thank you. Half an etherega. You are very welcome. All right, Tyler Mandel. I will see you lads tomorrow morning. And with that. With that. With that. See you all tomorrow. 10:00 a.m.