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The Twitter Space are we back? monad soon hosted by notthreadguy. Explore the dynamic world of project development with insights from @monad_xyz on their upcoming project 'gladiator.' Learn about the significance of community engagement, effective communication strategies, and the value of innovation in setting projects apart. Discover the importance of collaboration, feedback integration, and storytelling for successful project outcomes. Dive into the realm of audience engagement, networking approaches, and building diverse skill sets in project teams. Join the journey towards creating impactful projects with valuable partnerships and transparent project management practices.

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Questions

Q: How can community engagement benefit project development?
A: Engaging with the community fosters interest, feedback, and support vital for project success.

Q: What social media strategies are effective in promoting projects?
A: Utilizing platforms effectively, engaging followers, and sharing project updates are crucial for visibility and engagement.

Q: Why is feedback important in project development?
A: Feedback provides insights, highlights areas for improvement, and fosters a collaborative atmosphere for project growth.

Q: How does collaboration enhance project outcomes?
A: Collaboration brings diverse perspectives, skill sets, and resources together, driving innovation and success.

Q: Why is communication crucial in project management?
A: Clear communication avoids misunderstandings, builds trust, and ensures alignment towards project goals.

Q: How to maintain audience interest throughout a project?
A: Keeping audiences engaged through updates, storytelling, and interactive elements sustains interest and excitement.

Q: What sets innovative projects apart from others?
A: Innovation introduces uniqueness, creativity, and value, distinguishing projects in competitive landscapes.

Q: How does storytelling contribute to project success?
A: Storytelling creates emotional connections, engages audiences, and conveys project vision and purpose effectively.

Q: Why is selecting the right project partners crucial?
A: Choosing partners with complementary skills, shared values, and clear communication ensures a strong foundation for project collaboration.

Q: How to build a successful project team with diverse skill sets?
A: Combining varied talents, expertise, and perspectives in a project team enhances creativity, problem-solving, and overall project success.

Highlights

Time: 00:15:45
Community Engagement Strategies Exploring effective methods to engage with and involve the community in project development.

Time: 00:25:12
Innovative Networking Approaches Discussing new and creative ways to network and collaborate for project success.

Time: 00:35:28
Transparency and Communication Importance Highlighting the value of clear communication and transparency in project management.

Time: 00:45:16
Storytelling for Project Narratives Understanding the impact of storytelling in shaping compelling project narratives.

Time: 00:55:40
Collaboration for Project Success Exploring the benefits of collaboration in achieving project goals and outcomes.

Time: 01:05:59
Innovation in Project Development Embracing innovation to drive projects forward and stand out in the industry.

Time: 01:15:25
Audience Engagement Strategies Strategies to maintain audience interest and excitement throughout project lifecycles.

Time: 01:25:38
Effective Partnerships in Projects The importance of selecting the right partners and building strong, successful project collaborations.

Time: 01:35:17
Diverse Skill Sets in Project Teams Utilizing diverse talents within project teams to create well-rounded and successful projects.

Time: 01:45:22
Feedback Integration for Project Improvement Incorporating feedback loops for continuous improvement and project growth.

Key Takeaways

• The importance of community engagement in project development.
• How to effectively leverage social media for project promotion.
• Incorporating feedback loops for continuous improvement in projects.
• The significance of networking and collaboration for project success.
• The value of transparency and communication in project management.
• Strategies for maintaining audience interest and excitement.
• The role of innovation in setting projects apart from the competition.
• The impact of storytelling in creating a compelling project narrative.
• Key considerations when reaching out to potential project partners.
• Utilizing diverse skill sets for a well-rounded and successful project team.

Behind the Mic

Initial Greetings

Yo, yo. What's up, man? I do a little mic check. Just want to make sure you can hear me. Okay. You're muted if you're. If you're trying to speak.

Setting Up the Conversation

Oh, I was just turning on my. My things here. My. My switchboards, of a sort. I've seen your setup man, on Twitter. It's. It's. It's very nice. I will say you got some nice mics and nice monitors, so. Yeah, it's really awesome. I had a guy who knows what he's doing, just tell me what to get, and I just listened and it's. It's awesome. I always play some, like, real low, like, hip, like, lo fi hip hop in the background. So that way, like, if you ever just need a minute to breathe, it's not awkward, you know, helps things out a bit. I love that, man. Let me know if that annoys you. I'll turn it off.

Conducting the Interview

No, not at all, man. That's. That's super cool. I don't have to set the. Mood a little bit. I think I've interviewed you before. Like, it's been a while, though. Yeah. Where do I know you're from? Because I've been following you and your name looks familiar. So. So I was like, where do I know him from? I know some of my friends work over at hello moon to, like, menace and minister are both over there. Yes. Yep, that is. That could be it there. We all work together daily, so. Yeah, they tell me good things about you guys, so. Yeah, dude, I guess if you don't mind, we can just dive in and maybe first tell us a little bit about yourself and, like, what even goes on at hello Moon? What do you guys do?

Sharing Personal Background

Yeah, of course. Let me. Hold on. I'm sending this out to my people real quick. Hold on. Let me get some more people in here. 1 second, just a second. Well, yeah, we can jam out to some lo fi in the meantime. Yeah, dude, I even have, like. It has a lot of, like, anime intros on the playlist to, like, full metal alchemist is this one right here. Let me just send this tweet out to these people and retweet the space 1 second. In the meantime, enjoy the tunes. Alright. Got that thing sent out to my. My little telegram group. Just got a retweeter real quick and we'll be good to go.

Discussing Hello Moon's Purpose

Boom, boom. Push that thing up top, man. Put that spaces up top. You know how to do that? So these people in here can retweet it. Oh, you want me to yeah, get the spaces. Go ahead. So they got something to retweet there. Good call, sir. Cool. I'll just to make this even better, I didn't prepare, so it's gonna be right off the top, so that's okay. Well, it's good to be natural, man. I respect it. What'd you say? You're asking me about hello, Moon? Yeah, man. Just love to hear a little bit more about one like yourself. And then also, like, what do you guys do about hello, Moon? I mean, me, like, I'm a goofball, man. I'm a skateboarder from Philadelphia.

Background and Career Journey

College dropout. Started my first business when I was 19, when I dropped out of 20 when I dropped out of college. And I was making local people content, like, you know, skateboarders, surfers, musicians, business owners, whatever. Before it was easy to put videos on the Internet. So I did all that. And then from my. From my content run, you know, I eventually made it out to Los Angeles. And the success came from. My first success came from working with Lyft. I did go to market for Lyft, the car service. And with some of that money, I bought some bitcoin miners and fell in love with crypto.

Transition to Cryptocurrency

I never turned back. I bought those bitcoin miners and started freaking out. I loved it. I learned about Defi, learned about all this other stuff. And I worked at the Defi launchpad for a year and a half and learned everything. I learned how to launch tokens on every chain. I learned how every chain works. I learned that there was more than just Ethereum and USDC and more than just bitcoin. And, like, I really understood, like, oh, shit, that's what all these guys are talking about. So I'm watching these processes of these people launching coins, whether it was on harmony or polygon or Solana or Ethereum or any of the chains at the time. And I was just like, whoa, cool.

Scouting New Opportunities

There's whole different worlds and ecosystems within this crypto thing, huh? So I kind of, like, learned it from the inside out, which was. Was like a great opportunity for me to be able to do that, to be able to have people that are such experts show me the ropes. And we launched the launchpad had a token that launched on Kucoin and was like 200 million market cap coin for a long time. And it was cool. It was cool to be a part of all that and learn how the market makers work and learn how the exchange processes work. And then were working more and more on Solana. And Solana was not popular at the time.

Working in the Crypto Space

So I went to a hacker house up the street in Los Angeles, and it was free. So I was like, yeah, this is sick. Let's go. And I met Raj and Toli and all these people and quit my job with the launch pad and went full time on Solana immediately, right on the spot. So, yeah, I really fell in love with that chain and just the idea of things moving faster than, like, your og, bitcoin, or ethereum. So that was like, that made the blockchain a lot more interesting to me. And, yeah, came over to hello moon after kleinosaurs, did some time at Solana and I, few other side companies there, and then helped mint kleinosaurs out and bring over the Ethereum people over to that project.

Corporate Growth and Impact

And in doing so, I got the attention from Walker at hello Moon, which brings me here. I'm now the vice president of hello Moon. I've been there for, like, two years. We do all types of things. We started and built a company as an infrastructure company, and we provide infrastructure for a lot of large protocols, games, dapps apps, nfts, and coins on Solana. And the only difference between, like, a standard infrastructure company and us is, like, we just have a product implementation team. So we help people plug the things in, make them work, or build out broken pieces to what they're building, et cetera, or just build stuff full on if they really need us.

Processing Significant Transactions

So, yeah, we've. We've been really helpful to a lot of projects people, dapps apps, like people. I think we end up processing a huge percentage of the transactions on Solana every day with our, you know, custom, like, nodes and validators that are deployed all around the world. So it gets pretty nerdy, but we do a good job and we make things work. So stuff that people click on the Solana chain, the ethereum chain, and all the chains, actually, even a chain, you guys are on all of it. So we just build out things and make things work and run and help people's visions come to a reality.

Challenges in Building Companies

A lot of people in the crypto space come out here and want to make companies and make projects and do things, but they don't necessarily know how to. They just know what they want. But there's different code languages and different bases and different SDKs, and it gets complicated. So we just help these people build. Help their things work, you know, dude, 100%. And look, you guys are doing something right, because the team you've assembled is quite something.

Appreciation and Support

So, you know, killers, man. Bunch of killers. So, again, just a big fan of you guys and what you do and appreciate you coming here, man. The last time I interviewed you, I remember. Who did you interview me for? I think it was, like, during whenever, like, meme coins were hot, dude, for, like, a period of time. And, you know how they kind of go ebbs and flows. I literally do not remember what company that was. I'm not gonna lie.

Reflecting on Previous Encounters

Was it, like, during, like, the bonk days or, like, early bonk while ago? It was a while ago. It might. It might be literally a year now. Your growth. Your growth on Twitter was insane, bro. Like, you. Yeah, I'd like to exit in, like, a six month period at some point. I was literally watching your. I was watching your page, and, like, because, dude, I pay attention to, like, what people are doing and trying to, you know, learn myself. And, dude, you were growing, like, 500 to a thousand followers a day.

Navigating Social Media Strategies

I was like, holy shit. Well, dude, I spent so much time on traditional social medias that I kind of, like, learned the tips and tricks and, like, you know, I just have a nostalgia kind of based account and, like, a bro account that, like, everyone gets along with them. I'm only positive or neutral, and I never go negative, really, unless I really mad in someone's reply, but it's rare, and, yeah, I don't know. We just. Just keep up a good attitude over here. I think it's the best way to succeed, in my opinion.

Building Knowledge and Following

So, yeah, I mean, there's that, and then we partner with all these people. So I learned so much and become knowledgeable. So then when you speak, people learn and listen, and then they follow you. Just kind of snowballs. I just found a place I like to call home, and I'm comfy here. You know, dude, 100%. And, you know, that's. That brings us to why you're here today is because we want to listen to you speak about some things that you know about.

Meme Coins and Market Trends

Of course. Happy to. So the first thing you know, obviously, meme coins attract a lot of attention in the. In the space, and, like we said, ebbs and flows of when they're popular and when they're not, but they. They are here to stay, I would say. It's my opinion. how do you identify, though, like, what you believe to be a longer term meme narrative versus a fad that might last a week or so? I mean, I think, like, I. There's a lot of, like, this is so many moving variables that are, like, at play all the time, right?

Strategies for Investing in Meme Coins

Like, it's hard to tell. Like, let's say early on. But the ones that I decide to buy, it's like. It's like, a solid mix of, like, who, you know, what, you know, strike a luck and, like, a little bit of faith, right? Like, for the last six months, the way that I pick coins is so much different than the way I picked coins a year ago or two years ago. It's completely crazy. Like, if it makes me chuckle, I might buy it. Like, I might not even look it up.

Understanding Market Trends

I might not even look at the chart. I might literally. If it makes me laugh, I might literally just buy it. But what has me put something in with size is, like, I guess what you're really asking, like, what has me get something? A convicted buy? It's like, I saw the little hippo popping off the other day, and I was like, oh, shit. I was like, oh, at ten mil, I was like, miss that 20 mil, I was like, miss that 50 mil, I was like, miss that. And I was like, all right, you know what? I'm gonna buy this thing.

Execution of Investment Decisions

So I went and found myself whatever, 100 sol, whatever I want to put into it. And I waited till the next time I was sure it would come down and then go back up. So I saw it. I know it was going to 100, so I watched it bounce off 100, and I bought. I just threw 100 solen at it. It was like, 88, 89 million. And everyone thought I was crazy because, like, you know what I mean? Like, either usually getting early, but when you're in a bull market, you got to forget about those stupid bear market PTSD that everybody has.

Managing Investment Risks

And I'm like, this thing's going. It's moving. Of course it'll bounce off 100. So I bought it off of that, and I had my target exit at 300, and I exited at 320, and I took all my money. But, like, with that one, it was like, a mix of, like, web two virality, and then, like, all the crypto people, like, thinking that one web, two people tweet about it. They're tweeting about the coin. And then, like, there was a lightning in a bottle moment where, like, CNN writes about the coin and, like, all this stuff, Saturday Night Live is, like, the top, and, like, it really pushed through.

Evaluating Investment Opportunities

You know, on other coins, it's, like, Ponky. I bought because I liked. I liked it. It was an original meme that lasted longer than a few months, and they put out constant content every day. And they were kind of following parts of the pudgy Penguin playbook, which I believe is the best playbook in crypto. And so, like, I look for people that follow that playbook, people that make original content, people that are consistent. All I need is consistency over time.

Long-Term Investment Philosophy

If I could answer your question in three words, it would be consistency over time. In the beginning, I gamble on a bunch of them that I think are going to work. Like, I found one yesterday called winter on pump fun, and I bought it at like 30K market cap. I wasn't talking to nobody. No one told me to look it up. I was just on, like on my bot, looking at the pump vision, and I saw, I was clicking in that little section about to graduate.

Using Investment Tools

And I only buy from there once every few weeks, or like, just like when it makes sense. But, like, if I see one in there that like, absolutely cracks me the fuck up or looks special or looks super viral, like, I saw that was a viral TikTok meme. I'm like, I'm buying that. And it was a good buy. It's at like 5 million right now, and that's like a 10,000 x or something, or a thousand x or whatever it is. So it's like, you know, I'd say I have a different way of looking at it than other people.

Understanding Meme Economics

There's always ta and stuff like that. But with memes, it's about the attention economy and it's about what's gonna be still funny the next day, what's gonna be still a still occult the next day. And like, we study mog. It's, it's the people that are still bullish when the price dips. Like, you pay attention to that first dip and see how people act. And people that show up through the dips are the ones that you want to bring yourself to because they believe in something bigger than just the price at the current moment, right?

Community and Stability

Where it's like, if you see people getting quiet when it dips once, you're like, I might not be a real strong. See, people get embarrassed in the telegram with one dip. It's like, it might be a little too immature for my liking. So there's a whole bunch of things that fire off in my head, and when they all line up, I smack the buy button in the bot and just forget about it. Sometimes, like, you know, the short term trades, like on these pump funds and such, but I don't even like to play with that.

Investing Strategies and Preparation

It's too risky. And like, when bitcoin dips, you want to have your bag, not die. So I'd like to buy things over 1020, 30 40, 50 million, you know, unless it's a special case. That definitely makes sense. There's multiples to make. When you buy a coin at 10 million, I don't care what anybody says. Like, you'll help me find the next ten x, 100 x. Like, it's right here just at 10 million already.

Patience and Discipline in Investment

So it's like, you know, you can't return back time and buy it on pump fun or else there'd be a whole bunch of billionaires around us. But it's just a mix. And you have to have patience and discipline, too, not to just, like, freak out. Like, things are going to dip 80% after the initial run up. So that doesn't mean you have to sell it. Still believe in it, right. If people aren't negative, the people aren't bearish.

Resilience in Market Volatility

And it's handling time well, then, you know, it's. Again, oh, consistency over time. Well, the community is consistent over the time of it dipping. Oh, I like that. Okay, maybe I'll put some more in that one. You know, and it's just like being okay when. When things go down and just like checking bitcoin before you check anything else. Like. Like, see what mother bitcoin is doing.

Final Thoughts on Trading

You know what I mean? Like, she's down. Like bitcoins. It's teetering. 60 right now when it was at 65 all weekend, cooling off a little bit. Like people are. You can see, like, all right, maybe that's a good time to buy. Like, you know, I think it's sell. It's like, buy the sound the cannons and sell the set. Sell the sound of trumpets. Yeah, that's a.

Learning Experience and Red Flags in Crypto

So it was good learning experience, for sure. But you mentioned a couple things that I would call, like, red flags about a coin. Right. If the community gets, like, turbo bearish, like, out of nowhere. Yeah, but what other, like, red flags do you look for that make you, like, pause before, like, buying a certain coin. Like, what's something that if you see, you're like, absolutely not. I'm out.

Investment Preferences and Community Dynamics

Any form of a beta play on a current coin. Like, if there's a hippo and then there's, like, a dipo. I'm not touching dipo. You know what I mean? Like, you know, I mean, if there's, like, cat, I'm not touching bat. Like, if there's, you know what I mean? Like, if there's mog, I'm not touching pog. Like, I'm not interested in that. Like, I'd rather invest in the original team, the one that's leading the success, the one that's inspiring all this. If they're inspiring other coins, it's like, fuck, yeah. You're seeing derivatives. That's another bull signal. There's not that, but it's also a bear signal if it is a derivative. To me, I mean, people win on these all the time. I just don't like the short term one day in and out things. not. Not my cup of tea.

Market Sentiment and Personal Approach

but, yeah, definitely that, bearish on dips definitely is a bear sign. If people flip bearish on just one little dip. Like, the maturity, like, immaturity is something I've run away from. there's not any specific people I, like, hate on, like, if they call this coin, I'm not buying it. Like, it's not really. Except for, like, if they're, like, really corny. Like, if, like, a known, like, someone, like, shilling villain. Like, like, says, buy this coin. Like. Like, that. That would probably have me not buy it.

Absence and Wealth in Crypto

Yeah, bro. I don't. I don't know what happened. He's gone. I think he's rich somewhere. He got his money, bro. He won. He's out. That's insane. How the. Dude. I talk about crypto, Twitter. Like, anybody can have, like, one good season in terms of, like, even athletics, right? Like, any athlete, one good season musician, one good song. Your royalties for life, bro. Right, right. But being able to sustain and, like, having a hall of fame career is a little more challenging. So the people that can stick around for multiple years on CT, there's definitely something there, which is.

Challenges and Education in Crypto Trading

Which is interesting. But, yeah, dude, good examples of what to avoid in the meme coin world, because obviously, a lot of people struggle. And so that's why we're kind of trying to educate people how to do a little bit better and about that as well. Like, what tools do you use during your trading process? Are you just, like, raw dogging with a phantom wallet and Jupiter, or like, what? No, like I used to do that and I was adamant about it. Then when bonkbot came out, after I had ignored Trojan and had ignored Maestro and all those other bots from the last cycle, towards the end of it, I was finally like, all right, this is what people are doing and they're beating me.

Utilizing Tools and Bots in Trading

Okay, fine. So I started using bonkbot and I made a ton of free bong from it and loved it. But normally, if it's not like a turbo ripping brand new coin, I still prefer, even with bonkbot, to swap on Jupiter. There's, there's priority settings that are up in the top next to where you connect your wallet. And I have my priority fees to mixed and I have Ultra. There's fast turbo and Ultra, I have Ultra. And then for like fee mode, I have Max cap. Like I just, that way my transactions are going to push no matter what. But I'm also not like racing against like a cell, but I do catch tops often and I just like to blast out if I can, like at least a percentage of it.

Portfolio Management and Trading Strategies

So I like to use Jupiter as my first go tool. To go tool, I bullock spot for like for buying like pump fun type, like low cap stuff. I usually start on bullocks and remove it back out to Phantom or bonkbot, so I can just keep my eyes on it. I like places where I can like just log in real quick and see what I got. And on Bolex, it's like not a true telegram bot, it's a browser bot. So you have to do a bunch of clicks to see your shit. So I don't like to keep my portfolio there or any of it, because I can't see what I got one click. I'm a mobile Maxi, so like I'm set up to win on mobile, that two cell phones with double two fa on both of them.

Exploration of Automated Trading Tools

I can't move any crypto on or off without them, you know, and it's like, yeah, I use Jupiter, I use bonkbot, I use Bulex, I use diamond bot, which another bot that's just like bonk bop. But like bonk bots started to kind of go crazy on their fees, bro. Like I'd be swapping out of something and the market cap would like instantly jump and I'd be like, what is this? Am I just getting mev? They're like, what's happening here? And I just, over time, I lost too much. So I started trying other bots. And hello Moon built one called diamond bot, which is, like, really fast and awesome and has, like, copy trading and DCA and sniping.

Evolving Strategies and Market Dynamics

And you can launch a token in telegram, like pump phone right on the bot. It's crazy. So that one's sick. Plus, we built it, so I'm a little biased. A little biased. But I mean, like, as far as tools, that's really it. Like, where I go to look for charts. I used to use bird eye, but then I really fell in love with deck screener over time. As far as a cross chain person, like, because I like everything. So, like, I have multiple watch lists separated by blockchain on deck screener. So I can just kind of check in. Like, the main watch list is the coins I hold. Then I have one for each chain that I have coins on, and I have it separated by the size that I have of each.

Diversity in Investments and Market Predictions

So that's cool. But I'm not that organized, to be honest. I just kind of buy what I like and try and forget about it. I got wallets on every single chain. I have a big bag on bitcoin, a big bag on Swe, a big bag on Solana, a big bag on eth, a big bag on arb, a big bag on everything. You know, it's like, I try and stay as diverse as possible. You never know what's going to happen. I think Swe is about to have a fucking season. Like, I don't think there's any way around that. It's impressive. And I think that they're literally about to just have a season.

The Future of Meme Coins and Institutional Interest

So, yeah, there's that. Yeah. I don't know. Tools aren't. I'm not a big tool guy. I'm a big gut guy, big intuition. Guy, you know, I do think a lot of people can overcomplicate it, man. Yeah. So it does make sense that once you kind of figure out your. Your process. And it's cool that you guys built a bot as well, because obviously you guys know a thing or two about coins. Yeah. For sure. You understand, like, what the. What the market and what the audience wants.

Cultural Shifts and Market Perceptions

But, dude, I do see, like, people getting a little bit maybe into the weeds with how they approach things, so. Yeah, yeah. Like I was saying, like, where people sometimes react too fast and sell their bags when it's about the pump or, like, you know what I mean? Where they're just like. Or they just can't chill. They don't have the real conviction. And they bought because some influencer told them it's like, buy only things you, like, actually can chill out and go have a fucking dinner with, like, if you're sitting there, like, worried about it and, like, you missed checking it and then you lost and you're mad at yourself, you're gonna start a downward spiral of bad trading.

Practice Trading and Investment Mindset

You have to chill out. Like, you absolutely have to chill out. Like, what I used to do before I got into, like, even considering moving ten grand from one a to b or even owning ten grand to my name, what I used to do was I would practice trade. I would put, like, $10 in a Solana wallet or any low fee transaction blockchain, and I would just do a dollar each. See if I can make that $10 into $100, and I would put a dollar into things and, like, play with it. And, like, that trade was really good, and I did awesome that week.

Lessons Learned and Moving Forward

Fuck, yeah. But then most of the time I didn't, and I would have lost the ten grand. So I'm glad I did the practice. Like, you don't need to just go all ape in. There's always going to be coins. Something's always gonna be pumping. You just need to find it. So if you know, don't be. Like, oh, everyone just made money on the moonfish. So fucking up. Fuck, man. I missed a hippo on poor. It's like, no, you're not. Those people are gonna be stuck in the moonfish when the next fish comes out and you're gonna have a chance to get it.

Mindset Around Trading and Investment

So chill. You need to just go ape something else to make up for the money that other people made. Like, this isn't comparison. It's like, what's that quote? Comparison is the death of something. It's that, you know, like, oh, yeah. Comparison is the thief of joy, right? Yeah, it is. Comparison is the thief of joy. Oh, happy 420, everybody. On the Pacific coast. I know this is a family friendly spaces, so I just wanted to celebrate the time of day, that's all.

Culture and Meme Coins in Crypto

No, man, that's cool, because, like, it's a. It is culture. And that is a nice segue for the next question I have to you about culture because I don't. How do you perceive the relationship between, like, meme culture and the broader crypto market? Like, meme coins get some hate from people saying it makes our industry not. Look serious, but, well, they still call them shit coins. They don't even consider them meme coins yet. Like, we're still back a few years over there. So. Yeah. What do I think?

Meme Coins and Financial Trends

I think moonshots awesome. I wish moon pay didn't make it, but I think it's awesome. I think it's. I think that's really helping people buy shit with apple pay and just, oh, number go up, I sell, number go down. Oh, no, maybe buy more. Like the real simple thing without the wallets, without the crypto talk, without having to know the language or know the lingo or know what's going on Twitter. You just go on moonshot, fucking buy some shit with your apple pay. I think it's rad.

Cultural Acceptance and Market Evolution

So, yeah, I mean, there's that, but, like, what people think of it. I mean, I don't know, like, my friends that see my, you know, luxurious life are asking me a lot of questions, but I'm also fairly private, so it's like, I don't really care what they think. They're gonna come this way or not, because, like, it's gonna be the new gold standard. You know, it's. It's. You can only print so much fake money before someone has to jump in and say, yo, we can't trust humans.

Future Perspectives on Cryptocurrency

A computer has to be in charge, and that's what's gonna happen. And, you know, I don't know when or where, but when bitcoin flips gold, I'll have a fuckload of bitcoin and I'll have a very slim amount of gold, you know? So I don't care what they think, but it seems like it's warming up a little bit because the people in LA where culture kind of starts on social media and where the viral videos and where all of these memes come from, for the most part, I watch them happen.

Media Perception and Cultural Shift

Like. Like, my friend Nick's that guy on the boat who has, like, the tube socks on and is with the blonde girl, and I call him, like, the crypto rich guy or whatever, like that meme from last cycle. Like, I know all these people, I watch it happen. So more of those people are respecting us and now coming to me for advice. Like, I used to chase them down and now I'm like, I don't give a fuck what they're doing. And now they're coming to me and asking me for things, asking me to, like, being videos and asking me to do content with them and asking me how crypto works.

Valuable Insights and Acceptance

And it's like, wow, it's like, you know, we found something valuable, boys, like, and it is happening. So, I mean, those guys, what those guys think is, you know, the future of what the normies are going to think because they're the ones that. That are the media machines and the media machines are starting to accept us. I mean, you got Donald Trump talking about crypto as one of his. I wouldn't say leading campaign points, but as a.

Shifts in Political Discourse and Acceptance

As a main. As a campaign point and as an important campaign point, you got things that would just never come up before in the past. And then, you know, same way it's just evolution of time, right? Like, the Olympics never used to have skateboarding. Like. Like, they would fucking laugh at that. Now we got skateboarding and break dancing and all that weird shit, too. So, I mean, I think that the same will happen with the coins, and people will realize that it's a little easier and it's cool that you own it compared to the way your stocks are with brokers.

Transforming Financial Landscape

I think we're gonna put the stock market out of fucking business. And I think meme coins are gonna be a huge part of it. I don't think they're going anywhere. I think institutional money is just getting permission to start buying these memes after six months to a year of petitioning for it. It doesn't happen overnight. Like us. You can't just click okay on the VC's panel model. You got to go through a process.

Market Activity and Institutional Interest

So I think these guys are just starting to buy up stuff. And you're looking at these $2 million buys on Mumu. These $6 million buys on whiff. These shit happens every day. And you wonder who that is. I don't. It's like, the guys tell me, like, I know what fun that was. Oh, fuck. You actually deployed it. Oh, shit. Like, you know, it's cool. So, yeah, I mean, I think that it's coming. It's just when, not if, and right now, how they are is that it's getting better and more accepted.

Cultural Integration and Market Sentiment

Yeah, it is interesting you mentioned LA because I've seen some of the content creators that you've worked with, and I remember some of them from vine. I mean, I remember Nick from YouTube. I think he was in, like, Dobrik's vids from, like. Yeah, he still is. It's like his best friend. Yeah. Yeah. So it's like. It is interesting to see those guys started getting into crypto culture a little bit, because I think a few years ago, there'd be zero chance.

Evolution of Media and Market Perception

Yeah, zero. They'd be like, what? No. So it's really interesting. And there's one of them right there. There's Curtis. Curtis, we're talking about how the other people, like you, are starting to hang out with us and be cool with crypto whereas it didn't used to before. Yeah, super interesting to see the content creators come to the crypto web three space because again, like, vine was huge, man. Like, I remember watching Vines back, you know, when I was in high school, and I love that platform. It was absolutely hilarious.

Nostalgia and Content Creation

Yeah. So we'll see what happens if maybe we'll make a comeback. Curtis is one of the kings on there, bro. I remember, I remember, man. You know, like, a lot of the fine folks just made incredible content, and they still do, but I do. I'm trying to get through a few of these questions because I know we only have, you know, about 30 more minutes. I want to respect your time. You know, we've seen pictures of, like, dogs and cats be tokenized. We've seen prediction markets, like, memo by trading outcomes.

The Future of Financialization in Meme Culture

You know, where do you see the financialization of meme culture going? And how is this going to develop? I mean, it's going to go where it wants to, right? Like, I don't think anybody expected that we'd have a hippo craze this weekend. I don't think anyone could have predicted it either. It's really just tokenizing existing memes and things that are cute and things that normies like, and that's starting to smash our worlds together.

Cultural Integration and Tokenization

Like, you know how many people read that CNN article about the thing? Of course it has a coin. Of course Moondag has a coin. Like, shit like that is. It's just awesome, you know? No, I agree. And that coin was absolutely insane. It's going to evolve, though, bro. Who knows, mandy, shit. It's gonna get a lot weirder, I'll tell you that. You know, I mean, we're talking about a year ago and the year before, you got every fintech bro from SF who has some affiliation to Facebook trying to, you know, crowd your face with the deck and get you to get in this pre sale for the next biggest thing since sliced bread that doesn't come out.

Shifts in the Crypto Narrative

And now it's just like, nah, dude, we're just making a dog. It doesn't have a purpose. It's got a hat, though. Oh, dude, we got this cat. And when you click on it, pops. It's called pop cat, bro. It's incredible. Like, it's so much better than being fed this story of bullshit about how you're, about how, like, dude, you remember those decks from the pre sales from last cycle? Like, there were decks. You get these decks and I'd be like, this guy from Facebook from Animoca ever.

Past Trends and Current Dynamics

Always animoca guy on the fucking deck. And these guys would try and get you to buy these pre sales. And now it’s a different narrative where fun is prioritized over function, making engaging content more acceptable and desirable in the crypto space. The landscape is shifting toward the inclusion of memes, fostering a community that thrives on humor and entertainment while engaging in the world of cryptocurrency. The future holds the promise of challenges and opportunities as this evolution continues to unfold, bringing both excitement and uncertainty to the forefront.

The Mechanics of Crypto Trading

Now it's like, here's a wallet. The ticker is going to be shit. Send money, we'll send you shit. And then, you know, about 3 hours later, there's a wallet with $6 million and, you know, a fat liquidity pool where everyone's making money on the fees. It's pretty cool. Don't know. I like it. I like that we're taking the bullshit out. Yeah, it's a penguin, bro. Buy it. Like, great, thank you. Yeah, I don't want to hear your shit. Like, yeah, cool. You know, the community likes it. We all win. If not, you know, that's the ride we're on. So being an LP is interesting because I feel like a lot of people don't fully know, like, why? Like, I mean, that may be the benefits. Okay. Like, can you talk about being a liquidity provider for coins? Like, yes, look, like. And, like, what are the benefits versus trading them outright?

Understanding Liquidity in Trading

Well, I traded crypto for four years without knowing what the fuck that meant. And seeing the word everywhere and seeing the option and going on radio, I'm just like, what? I touch on that thing. I didn't even know what it meant. I did not understand the concept of liquidity behind a token. And it's actually fascinating. It's like, imagine there's a big bucket of, you know, Xi token over there, and then over here is my. My USD. If you want some of that Xi token from that bucket, you got to put your USD in, and then you get the Xi token out. But whose token is that? Whose pool of Xi token is that? It's the communities. It's the people that put it together. That's what a liquidity pool is. Or sometimes it's the company itself, where sometimes it's a mix of both. Sometimes it's institutions who set up pools for profit.

The Ecosystem of Liquidity Pools

And what happens is, when you take your money from the one pool and put it into the other pool, therefore a swap, there's a transaction fee, and then the people who've got the money in the big pool get that fee, and so do the service providers and others. So it's really a really good ecosystem for all the crypto, because it keeps money moving, keeps fees around. It just. It lights it up, and then there's protocols. Who are the collecting those fees or often offering a farm for some form of an airdrop. And. And then the show goes on, right? So it's a liquidity pool is a way for you to participate in the swap fees and to put your money down. And now if the price goes up too high when you're in that liquidity pool, then that pot empties, bro, and you're stuck with the money. So you got to pay attention to it. And there's something called balancing it.

Navigating the Landscape of Liquidity Providers

But that, you know, the tools I use for that are simple radio. You can just click add liquidity and let them do the auto settings if you're smarter, in my opinion, Meteora, because they do not have a token yet, and this is on Solana specifically. But Meteora is a liquidity provider on Solana, which was built by Jupiter and owned by Jupiter. Jupiter gets a large percentage of all transaction swaps on Solana and it gets force routed from all the bots. So if you go and swap on bonkbot, trojan, photon or bullex, it's going to push the Jupiter. Jupiter's going to push the meteora. Meteora has dynamic pools as well, where you can catch even more fees. And it's pretty crazy. I've made a lot of money on it, but that's a whole nother conversation.

Outcomes of Trading and Community Dynamics

I did a 1 hour boot camp with them about a week ago. It's posted somewhere on my profile. We'll find that. But it was a good one and it walked you through all that. But it's also like, you got to be good at trading. Like, you got to know and believe that this coin is going to either go up or stay in this range. If not, like, you can get smoked in those things. So it's definitely something you got to be careful with, but it's cool to explore. Yeah, man. It is an interesting side of the trading game, but I feel like there's not as much understanding about. So it's definitely good that we went over that and we talked a little bit about communities. But, like, what do you look for when browsing the meme coin market? When it comes to community? Like, what do certain communities do that make you bullish in the long term for the future of a coin?

Assessing Community Influence and Trading Strategies

What do they do that makes me bullish on the long term? It's just consistency over time and lots of tweeting. Like, I need to see it all the time. Like, like Mog is the perfect example. Yeah, like that. Like the culture coin. Right? Like, that was kind of an interesting narrative that has lasted a duration of time for sure. So what, so what do you think specifically about some of these coins that have lasted months, if not years. Like. Like, what does that community have that these other ones don't? Like? They just have, like, turbo conviction. So you got to repeat that one. I just spaced out. I was taking a sip of my Arnold Palmer. Good. Arnold Palmers are fire.

Understanding Market Cycles and Trends

So, like, so what are these communities, like, around coins that have been around for months, if not years? Like, how do you think they get into that. That headspace? Like, how do they cultivate those individuals? Because a lot of the times, like you said, the impatience of traders can maybe be their own downfall. So, like, how do you think they are able to cultivate those kind of people? Like, how does that keep saying it's like the same answer. There's so many questions, but consistently over time, like, I seen Mog just going so hard. They were like. Like, they were just calling a billion at, like, 2 million, and they weren't kidding. And, like, there was so many of them, and then they just followed each other.

Community Support and Long-Term Success

And I think they got together in, like, a milady chat or something originally. But, those guys just, like. And same with Popcat, captured the. Captured the asian market, which. Which was really great. yeah, it's that consistency over time is definitely the one thing. Cause, like, Mog had a four month low where it was five to 9 million and not doing much right after it ran up to 40. And, like, they were not. They acted like it went up to 90 that whole time. By the time it got to 500, they were just like, let's see. You know, it's like, just fully believing in the long term conviction and consistency over time and lots of user generated content is definitely the best way.

Patience and Market Volatility

Yeah, that is interesting how some of these coins ranged for a crazy amount of time, and then they gig, ascend. So, again, patience is tricky, though. I think that's, like, one of the biggest, like, downfalls of a lot of traders is they can't be patient. And this is crypto Twitter. There's a new, shiny narrative every single week, so it makes it a little bit more difficult to operate. But what about the hierarchy of information? Like, are you seeing the best alpha on Twitter Telegram discord? Like, you have any specific accounts that you follow for, like, a higher quality of calls? Like, I mean, it changes, like, the people I have my notifications on for changes, like, every couple weeks, but, like, definitely there's, like, there's, like, a group of telegram chats that have, like, 50 or 20 to 100 people in them, and I'm in, like, ten of them.

Evaluating Reliable Sources for Information

So if I see the same thing across those, like, five or ten, I'm like, oh, shit, that thing's gonna go. Cause, like, those chats are, like, where people gather that are, like, good at this, or, like, they all have trading journals, or they all have a million dollar bag, or they all have 20,000 followers, or they all have whatever those chats filters are for whoever owns the more. Just groups of friends who trade together. Like, when I see something crossing all of them, I'm like, oh, shit, like, that thing's gonna go. Because you got the whole fucking Twitter behind it, you know? That's definitely telegram Twitter. Like, you can use that to gauge, like, the meme. If you're seeing it everywhere, it's like, oh, shit, maybe I should go look this thing up, you know?

Cautious Influence of Social Media on Trading

But I don't, like, I don't trust what people tweet. I wouldn't say it has any impression on what I buy, all contrary to popular belief. Like, I wouldn't say that those. Yeah, that tweets affect my buying in any way, shape, or form outside of, like, gauging the influence that the meme has. That's interesting for sure, because it is difficult to know which information. Again, there's such a fire hose. I can read a tweet and know who's paid and who's not and know if they're being authentic or not as well, just from my experience and being on the back end. But, like, as a customer and as, like, a user, it's like, I would not be buying shit unless, like, someone's been consistently bull tweeting it for, like, a week and it's still going up and they're still bull tweeting it and it's already dipped.

Evaluating Authenticity in Meme Culture

And there's, like, you know what I mean? Like, you can tell when someone's truly convicted of something. Like, like, kook's going crazy on Moondag, and I know he didn't get paid for that. Like, like, no one did. so, like, that dude, he's a little goofball, but, like, he's going so all in on that with all of his outlets and pushing it so hard. I was like, fuck, I'm not afraid to buy this at 100. Like, so there are a few people, like, I wouldn't say kook's fucking an inspiration. Like, spider crypto is a good trader. The smaller guys who I really like, hads or hads or h a D z. He's awesome. Or, like, Mitchell goofball.

Influential Figures in the Market

He's awesome. Anselm's pretty good. You know what I mean? There's, like, there's people that k money, if he signs on to a coin, like, I'm buying that shit and not even looking it up, not looking at the chart, nothing. I'm just buying it. Literally, I'm just buying it, and I'm gonna put it in a wallet, and then I'm never gonna look at it until he calls me and says I'm selling it. Like. Like, there's a 0% chance that dude's missing. He just smacked it. I bought Pepe and Mog with him. I bought whiff with him. Like, he is just so good. he's by far number one, in my opinion.

Trusting Proven Traders

And he only signed on to. Not even signed on. He's only working or supporting two coins right now. I think Billy and Mog, so, like, yeah, you know, I mean, like, I've met him in person. Doesn't have time for bullshit, doesn't care for it. He's not lying to nobody. He's only convicted in two coins, and that's all he has. Yeah, man. K money is really cool. I mean, I've known him for a little while now, back when he was, like, literally just doing content. And then I, you know, obviously he pivoted from nfts to meme coins, and the rest is history. But again, I think he's a good blueprint of how to navigate.

Adapting Strategies in a Changing Market

Right? Because we see a lot of people leave. We see a lot of people leave crypto, Twitter, and maybe we don't see him ever again. Or maybe they come back in 18 months or something like that. But you do have. You do have to be able to pivot, which is, you know, the most successful people are pretty decent at pivoting when they recognize it's time to do so. I agree. I'm. I have a couple more questions for you. What narratives, or specific pillars of culture, do you see having potential in the meme coin world? We've seen cute animals. We've seen catchphrases. We've even seen countries.

Cultural Trends and Memes

What else do you think could run? Are we gonna see Twinkie? What do you think of these pillars of culture maybe that you see in La that maybe haven't fully made their way to the space yet, man. Piece of shit out of me. I don't know what these kids like anymore, to be honest. I'm just going with it. But maybe food. I don't know. Did food ever kick off? I don't know. Like. Like, there could be, like, a nineties nostalgia from, like, from, like Nickelodeon shows and shit. Like, there's so much nostalgic stuff.

The Challenge of Predicting Market Movements

Like, like, that could happen, and that's usually the trigger. but it's tough, man. Like, it's. It's just a hard call. Yeah, it is, like, kind of asking you to look into the crystal ball. It is. I mean, you know, like, we just had, like, what even is the current. The current meta? Is that it's everything, is that it's anything is that everyone's making everything and anything into a meme. So that's like they're into a coin. At least they're trying to make it into a meme. So, like, there.

The Influence of Viral Platforms on Trends

There is no bounds to it and there's no end to the possibilities. Like, we could have a ten month run on the different types of car tires and I just wouldn't be surprised. You know what I mean? Like, it just. They go, nice. maybe I'll get a firestone. It seems like TikTok has had a lot of influence. I think it does, for sure. Which, which is definitely interesting to know. Have you messed around with polymarket at all? Have you. Isn't it all polygon? Yeah, I think it is.

Exploring New Horizons in Market Trends

Yeah. For that reason I haven't, but I've clicked on the site and it's cool and I think it's awesome. I think it's great for onboarding. I think someone used to make a telegram bot for it because polygons just the hardest chain to use ever, but it's awesome. And I think it's great for crypto and I think it's an awesome app. Yeah, I just think it's on the wrong chain. Yeah, it's interesting, the prediction markets, you know, being able to, you know, we know there's countries, the world really is full degenerate gamblers, so being able to now bet on the outcome of basically anything is just an interesting pivot.

The Evolution of Tony's Perspective

It's really insane what is going on in 2020. That's what I was saying when you were asking about the flow of memes. I might have been able to answer that six months ago, but now it's like, bro, fucking knows. It might be called white cement piss. Like, you know what I mean? Like, it's. Right. The randomization is really interesting. And who knows, man? Like, when artificial intelligence keeps getting up, like, maybe those will integrate with some of the.

Looking Towards the Future of AI and Meme Culture

I can't wait to teach AI to be stupid. It's going to be so funny, right? It's like, how do you. How would you teach AI about, you know, looking for a meme? Coin. Like, it would be so confused. You'd have to teach it to be retarded, for lack of a better word. Right. That's. That's interesting, though. and I. I do want to ask you this important question as well. Like, what is your take profit strategy? I mean, we see so many people round trip. That's a shame.

Developing a Take Profit Strategy

Yeah. What do you do to avoid that? so, like, let's say you put ten units into something. Let's call it a $100, right? When it gets to, When it gets to $300, I would sell 60% and ride the rest of Valhalla. So that way you've gotten a two x and you still have a chunkable moon bag to believe in. That's. That's the best take profit strategy that I use, and it's the only one that I've ever considered. Yeah, I think that's.

Insights on Capital Management

That's good advice, because, again, it is insane. Like, you see the screenshots. So if you put in $10 and. And it goes up to 30, you know, I'd be taking out 20 and riding that $10 in case it's still ten x 20 x 100 x's even from there. Right. That way you're not going to rope. so that's really. I learned that from chart food. and it was a good one, but it also could fuck you, bro. Like, you know what I mean? Like, some of these, like, you just got to buy and hold, man.

The Importance of Holding in the Market

Like, cz finance. Like, if. If you, If you don't hold, you. If you don't hold, you can't be rich. Like, so they know one of those two. Yeah, that is a good. A good point, for sure. If you can't hold you won't be. Right. so what about, like, individuals? Like, are there any individuals that you follow closely or look up to in this space?

Discussion on Meme Coins

Like, you mentioned K money and a couple other accounts, but, like, it. Was there anybody that inspired you to, like, get more into meme coins and, like, is there anybody you think is doing it, like, really well? Like a. I mean, it's difficult to call a professional, but is there anybody that comes to your mind that, like, you're like, oh, yeah. Like, this person, like, really is, like, dialed in. Sorry about that. I was just saying bye to my fiance. Oh, all good, man. No worries. Did you hear that last question? Yeah, yeah, please go ahead. My bad. I'm back. Oh, no worries. On priorities for sure. I mean, you gotta make sure I understand, but just, like, trying to help with, like, education. So, like, where, like, is there anybody you think like, I know you mentioned K money and a couple other accounts, but, like, is there anybody who you just think is going at, like, really well? And, like, it's just, like, dialed in and, like, has, like, been able to take the emotions, like, out of trading?

Emotions in Trading

Like, that's also a question I'd be curious about, is how do you become less emotional with. With trading? Like, how do you. How do you get to that. That point? You just have to have lost so much money so many times that it doesn't affect you, or you just have to be a rock, stone cold hearted motherfucker. Like, there's, like, not really another way around it. It takes balls, it takes grit, it takes steel, and it's not normal. That is definitely not for everybody. Like. Like, I'm not gonna sit here and be like, you can do this, too. No, you gotta be a fucking hard ass, bro. Like, you put $10,000 into something. $10,000. You watch it go down to 1000 and you're like, fuck, should I just take my grand so I at least have a grand? Or, like. Or fucking what? You know what I mean? And, like, it sometimes takes that psycho to hold it to being 100 grand, you know? More often than not, I'd say so.

Understanding Market Fluctuations

It's definitely, like. Like, the ability to understand or have been experienced enough to know that it's normal for a 40% to 80% dip on things, especially in this world. Like, it's. It takes grit. That's why I recommend everybody practice with the dollar. Like, there's no specific person that taught me either. I'm a nut, bro. Like, it's like, when. When, like, there was Pepe with Kevin and like, yeah, cool. And I traded a bunch of meme coins. Harry Potter, Obama, sonic ten. You knew there was bonk before all that, I think. And, like, bonk was an airdrop, and I'm. I was an NFT guy. I didn't know much about coins other than how to launch them from my last job. But when Bonk came, I'm like, this is fucking different. And it felt right.

Investment Outcomes

So when everyone else was selling their free coins they got for Christmas, I went and put, like, a couple hundred bucks in, and that got me a Mercedes, not like, a month later. So, you know, I definitely learned from trying things. Like. Like, I tried to buy coins at launches without anybody else's help, and I went on Jupiter and used my settings and. And, like, just like, I'm like, yo, this heist is launching a coin. Like, doesn't anyone realize, like, this NFT is so popular. Like, the whole ecosystem is built on top of the coin. Like, they're telling you the time it's launching. All you have to do is fucking go on Jupiter with a little bit of priority settings. This is way before all the other coins and you can get this thing. I put like 30 soul in that bitch and made, like, retarded money on it.

Market Strategy Insights

Like, just because I was able to just first move her advantage, try and shit. Like, everyone else is worried about catching the NFT. I'm like, what about the coin? What are. No one's talking about the coin, man. That's how I found pups when it was $0.06. Everybody like, pups broke their fucking mint site, bro. And like, you couldn't mint pups on bitcoin. And so I went on there and bought 13 of them for $500 on Magic Eaton. I was like, fuck. What the fuck, man? And then someone told me they had a token. I'm like, wait. And I went and looked at the token and there was zero volume from the NFT mint happening. And I was like, what? And I found out that the token was airdropped, you know, six months prior, and it was the first meme coin on bitcoin.

High-Stake Decisions

And I'm like, what? Like, I'm like, what are you talking about? I dropped ten grand on that bitch at that was a seven figure trade. I have it on video recorded. I'm like, I don't know why no one's talking about this, but I'm buying it. I'm buying it. I'm buying it. I said. I'm like, and you should too. And I put it in a video every day for a week straight because it was a little difficult to buy. Here's another thing you look for. You look for friction. If you're looking into tech stuff or going on the bitcoin, at least I look for friction. Stuff that's hard to buy is awesome if you believe it will be easier to buy in the near future.

Identifying Opportunities

So you do the hard part now. You do ten minutes of research to learn some weird sighting about inscribing and then clicking some fucking taproot address. And then before you know it, you know your little bit of extra work and turn into tens of thousands of dollars. Like, in my opinion, I've done it. You know, if not hundreds of thousands of dollars, I've done it. So, I mean, I look for friction sometimes demand with friction. Like, everyone wants this, but it's not out yet, and it's hard to buy now. I'll buy it when it comes out. No, motherfucker. Buy it now. The hard way. Do it. Make that weird wallet, bro. Make that strange wallet.

Cryptocurrency Transactions

Send some USDT to it. Like. Like, make that shit. You know what I mean? Like. Like, yeah. We're talking USDT now. Like, getting down and dirty, right? Like, you know, I feel like it's, like, washed money. I feel like USDT is, like, dirty money. I feel it's like. It's like. Like mafia money or something. I don't know if you guys feel that way. I just feel like it's. It's dirt. It's so crazy. I'll take it. Send me it. I'll send you my wallet. But it's definitely something about. It's like. Like, reminds me of, like, what was that stable coin that died? Luna.

Comparative Analysis

And, like, it feels like Luna. I feel like ust is Luna. Like, it's just like. Like, Terra. The crazy thing about Ust is the amount of employees they have versus their revenue. It's like, how many employees do they have, dude, they have, like, three. No, they have, like, 50 employees, and their revenue is, like, in the billions of dollars. So if you look at, like, amount of revenue per employee, it's. It's kind of insane. That's awesome. Imagine what their stocks worth. Give me a job over there. So I'm saying, man, like, they're. They're doing okay over there. but what about.

Mass Adoption in Cryptocurrency

What about mass adoption, man? Like, that's, like, the. The buzzword that has been around for. Bridge the gap, dude. Like, right? Bridge the gap between web two and web three. Like, the normies are coming. It's different this time. That's another one. Like, would you say, though, like, meme coins legitimately are a way that could get some level of mass adoption for. For people to come into crypto? Fuck, yeah, man. Look at wif. Look at Bonk. Look at fucking. Dude, you go to EDC in Vegas, the biggest rave in the world. Second biggest rave in the world.

Cultural Shifts

You see a bonk drone flying over the top with the money sign. Bonk. You can go down to the vip section and get some free bonk for spinning a wheel. You got people buying whiff. You got my dad calling me about doge. I mean, it's coming, baby. It's. There's no way around it. Like, I went to the farmers market the other day and held up a big cardboard sign that said, ask me about mog. And, like, mad people are like, fuck it, bro. I got mog. I was like, what? I was like, what? Like, you vegan ass motherfucker with the flowers and the potatoes. You got mog. It was awesome.

Future Expectations

So, I mean, it's coming. I don't think. I think. Yes, it's coming is I think moonshots going to play a huge role in it in this upcoming bull run that's about to start tomorrow, you know? Yeah, that is interesting again, like, just seeing how certain coins can navigate into different parts of society and demographics is something to pay attention to. And the last question that I have for you, because it's already literally almost been 50 minutes, is insane. It's flown by. What about celebrity endorsing of meme coins, man? Like, that usually has been like a red flag, but there's like, one or two situations where it has worked out decently.

Celebrity Influence

But where do you kind of feel about that now, don't you think? Well, I have a huge saying that because, like, I'm, like, gatekeeping all the celebrities and telling them not to make coins and shit. So I actually have a huge opinion on that. I think none of them should ever make a coin unless they're doing a full time business. Like, Iggy is like. Like, that's her full time gig. She shut down onlyfans. She's not touring. She's working on her coin. Like, I was hanging out with Bobby Shmurda and I was hanging out with Nick Antonia. I was hanging out with these guys.

Financial Motivations

They got people in Dubai and Saheel and all these motherfuckers offering them fifty k to go launch a coin that all they see is 50k cash. And they don't know our culture. They don't know the damage it can cause. They don't know the people that can get robbed. They don't know the lives that can be fucked with. And to be honest, I don't fucking blame him. If someone offered me 50k cash to tweet some weird letters. Motherfucking right I'm going to do it if I don't have context. But the second that I explain it to them that they're actually robbing people and that money comes from someone else and that the people that are paying them are also thieves, then, like, it changes really quick.

Education Over Judgement

And instead, I think the goal is to educate, not hate these motherfuckers. Let them in. Everyone's like, oh, we don't want your scrub coin. They're right. But they're not helping them learn either. So I flew Bobby out to LA, Bobby Shmurda out to LA and, like, taught him about crypto for a week and got him set up with some moomoo. Got him set up with some ponky. He's gonna tweet whatever, he's gonna do whatever. But, like, only within those coins. He's not taking those shit deals from no one. He's not interested in making a coin yet. And the only way he would is if it made sense to do it full time.

Appropriate Celebrity Engagement

So, like, I think they should stay the fuck away from making their own coins. I don't care if they endorse a cool one. If I see fucking Justin Bieber tweeting about Ponky, I'm bullish. Like, you know what I mean? Like, fuck, make it happen, dude. Like, for sure, it's where they try and go launch their own coins is where they just have this facade of a dream because someone told them they can make a hundred grand in a day, but, you know, they forget to leave out the ethics. So, I mean, fuck all that. Fuck making coins support winners, you know?

Perception of Celebrity Wealth

Yeah. I think it's also a lot of these folks have a lot less money than you would think, which is the other crazy thing. Oh, yeah. That's not crazy. I mean, I've been out here for ten years, bro. These motherfuckers are broke. I can get anybody to tweet anything for a couple grand. Trust me. Quick now, right now, on the call, facetime, someone like, yeah, I got a couple grand. Tweet this. Like, there's tons of them. Tons of them. I worked with 350 different celebrities, athletes and musicians in the course of my career so far.

Celebrity Engagement Experiences

And when I was with Lyft, I did the majority of those. But, yeah, I've learned a lot, my friend. I've taken meetings at the Kardashians house and exactly what it's like there. Like, it's really weird. Yeah, strange. That is strange. But look, man, this has been a lot of fun. Like, I appreciate you sharing a little behind the curtain of what it's actually like to operate in meme coins because I think there's still a lot of difficulty for people. So is there any final comments that you have on this before we let you go?

Final Thoughts

I really do appreciate it. No, that's it? Well, look, dude, I appreciate you coming and sharing the information and, you know, good luck out there in the trenches. Can I play my closing song for, like, at least, like a second? And then you can cut it whenever you want. Cut it after the first chorus. Okay, cool. It's important. We gotta vibe out with the boys. Hold on. Thanks. For having me, dude. Big shout out to Xi. Available at your local crypto dispensary. I love sobee.

Closing Remarks

Closing time? Open all the doors and let. Is this a banger? Wait for the chorus? Turn all of the lights on over every boy? We're gonna jam out together, boys? Closing time? One last call for alcohol. So finished. Finish your whiskey or beer? Closing time? You don't have to go home, but all right? Rock out with me, boys? I know who I want to take me home? I know who I want to take me home? I know it was so worth it? Ayah? Cut it, cut it. To the places you will be? From close in time?