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Space Summary
The Twitter space revolves around the intersection of art and AI, focusing on AI-generated art, brainwave-generated art, privacy concerns in imaginative content sharing, Paris's growing interest in AI art, and evolving perspectives on NFTs in the art community. The discussions highlight the potential of AI in reshaping traditional art practices, the balance between technology and artistry, and the dynamic interplay between innovation and public reception.
Questions
Q: What is the potential impact of brainwaves on generating art?
A: Brainwaves have the potential to revolutionize art creation, introducing a novel way to generate visual artworks and transform the artistic landscape.
Q: How do privacy concerns intersect with accessing and sharing imaginative content?
A: Privacy concerns arise when accessing and sharing imaginative content, as individuals may be hesitant about the implications of sharing their innermost thoughts and ideas.
Q: What role does AI play in reshaping traditional art practices?
A: AI plays a significant role in reshaping traditional art practices by introducing innovative ways to create art, blending technology with traditional artistic methods.
Q: How is Paris embracing the blend of AI and art in its cultural landscape?
A: Paris is showing a growing interest in the fusion of AI and art, exploring new possibilities for creative expression and reflecting on the evolving role of technology in the artistic realm.
Q: How are NFTs perceived within the context of evolving art trends?
A: NFTs are being reconsidered within the context of evolving art trends, with discussions around their impact on the art world and the changing perceptions of digital ownership and authenticity.
Highlights
Key Takeaways
- Brainwaves could revolutionize art creation
- reshaping the artistic landscape.
- Privacy concerns arise around the access and sharing of imaginative content.
- AI in art blends innovation with traditional forms
- sparking new creative possibilities.
- Paris shows a growing interest in AI art and reconsiders the role of NFTs in the art world.
- The conversation navigates the intricate balance between technology
- art
- and public perception.
Behind the Mic
One of the things that you experimented with that I am so fascinated to hear more about and that also seems to be something that really triggered the inquiry of your customers, your collectors is the ability to harness imagination. And so rather than talking about it as an abstract concept, I'd love to know some of the concrete ways that you have helped people to harness their imagination to actually fuel the creation of art. And can we start with you? Yeah, sure. So Fred, can you talk to us about that? Sure. Many things, for sure. For me, I will talk of my journey, my personal journey because it's difficult to talk about what others are doing. I just started working on AE a year ago and at the start I was experimenting a lot and for me the value was more than creating images, it was more about creating a creative process. That's really interesting to hear you say that. Do you have anything to add or? Well, when people ask me, I make a lot of, how can you say, futuristic paintings. And that's a good point. Sharon is always imagining something that doesn't exist when you see your work. The imagination is such a big part of it. And how do you feel like people who might not naturally be artists, they might not naturally be know that they are artistic, but they may have some creativity in them and they want to get it out. I mean, what's their starting point? How do they? I think going back to what Fred was saying, it's quite accessible. I mean, there is huge platforms like the big papers or there is some private server where you can ask and discuss around AE and you can have great content that can help you to go through that and help you to work with our AE model and you can create great stuff. Honestly, the first time I saw it, I couldn't believe it. So at that time, it was the time everybody was talking in the news about AE and deepfakes and kind of new stuff for creating media using artificial intelligences. For me, it was like I don't need to read an AE book or something. The content on the web was so rich that you just need to stick with basic things, basic inquiry and you get great stuff. Can you back that up a moment by sort of defining for us the process we're talking about? Because we've discussed this before in previous, I would call them meetings, but they're really just chats. We've had these wonderful conversations. We're lucky enough to have these. When you talk about harnessing imagination, are you talking about generating an image using some interface and then doing some work to modify that? Or are you doing, I know that there's different approaches. People do a lot of digital feedback loops and modifications to feedback loops to harness imagination. Do you have specific methods that you favour? Of course, I have some methods, but it really depends on the question. If you are doing something precise or if it's really open. Open is more the case where I am starting from a prompt, a basic prompt, and depending on the result, then I break, modify, see what's happened, trying other tools, adding more prompt, adding more queries. And at the end of the path, there is something amazing that takes shape. When I felt satisfied, at that time I could say it was a good thing. Sometimes you miss great stuff. How to explain? You have to imagine when you are creating stuff. It's not a creation ex nihilo. This is a creation with so much randomness. Sometimes you create random stuff and you can get back that randomness. During my process, I get many times the feeling that randomness can create great things that come from your imagination. For me, harnessing my imagination really means harnessing the randomness. I use many various techniques and art to control that randomness at various levels. So this concept of randomness is very interesting because that's what I heard from many people working with AE, that they are looking at the images generated, and suddenly something random appears, and this opens up what their imagination is going to tell them to do next. The randomness is so big that many times it's so that I feel something, a spark that gives me the power, the ability, to create something that I would never think about. So that's the trigger of your imagination. Yeah. Like what you said about the process, that's something I hear from a lot of artists is that they're really interested in the process as well. And what I'm hearing from you, so maybe you guys can jump in, because I know that we have come across a number of different artists now that have unexpected process steps, things that come up and surprise them. Do you guys want to say anything about that? Yeah, I'm fascinated by that randomness as well. What happens when you can tame that randomness into something? Like each week I have a board where I write my ideas and during randomness or random walk inside the AE generation, I go back to that board and it gives me some ideas. Sometimes something appeals to me and I will get back to that thing later. Then I realized that it's too late, I missed something. And many times I missed amazing random AE. Maybe at that time it was not amazing, but few days after, I saw this as amazing. That's great. That's true. I hear that sometimes people say 'Oh, I missed something'. I would love to hear from Robin. How may randomness be useful in her daily work? I think that's so interesting because I work very random. So the question is not how randomness works for me, but more how I can tame that randomness. I already have a lot of randomness to deal with, but as you said before, that's the process and the process is what's interesting, but also the way that's exciting. Do you ever have a moment where you think 'Maybe it's too random right now'? Oh yes. It's true. To give an example, I wanted to start this big project. I bought a big wall and on this wall I wanted to create not random stuff but quite random because the elements of the wall are thrown in a random way. But when I was doing that, I realized that the randomness was too much, because it's completely random. I put everything on the wall and this gave me the power, the ability, to create amazing things. Yeah. That's fascinating. If we're talking about randomness, using randomness as a fuel, that's sort of the starting point. What about the next step you talked about? Had you already an impression of what you wanted to achieve or was the randomness leading you somewhere else? I always know what I want to achieve. Always? No, so often. It's just a glimpse of things. And then at the end of the process, it's not a concept that is deeply drawing. No, it's a process. I just want to pull something out, a spark from that randomness. I know where my randomness is because I'm on the web and surfing on some kind of randomness. If there is nothing interesting, you can modify some stuff or ask more query like when you [summoning a sentence] So you are in the process of art creation. This is the way you work. And is it different with you, Robin? It's a great point because AI tools allow us to iterate differently too. So recently, the fact that you can iterate differently might mean doing something different or creating this feedback loop where you can let art speak to you. So how do you select your ideas or your… What's the basic step? How do you pull it out? Usually I know directly. I found something that sparkles my mind and at that time, I work on that thing. And I am trying to tame the process and to make it my own, which is really interesting. I agree. So this is a fuel to your process. So really? That's a term. Shazam. You are an artist. Truly. You're so kind. This is a wonderful conversation. What a process. No, truly, you have to harness randomness, which is so interesting. It's the same as if you were working with traditional art, right? You start from a basic shape and it's totally random. Yeah, yeah. If you go from a drawing, we could talk about music also. You see the process. You see the failures inside the process. This is part of the thing and the failures can be at the start. You can correct many things during the process and at the end, you see the entirety. That's really good. You are trying to catch the randomness and you work with the different steps at different levels. You grasp it. That's very curious for me because there are so many different kinds of randomness. I'm really excited when somebody comes to me and has an idea and they share it with me. This is so great. I don't care what they're talking about pretty much. It's really great and you feel this feeling when you see an artist showing you an artwork. It's fantastic to see that. That's what we discussed before. You can't change what's inside, like, oh sorry. I was talking about this question. That's something I was discussing with Lauren. Everybody is different, for sure, but for me, it's more the process and to see the way it was done and to discuss with this person and there is something fascinating in it. Yeah, that's something that's really fascinating because it's different for everybody. And understanding is different for everybody, I guess. It's fascinating to see when the light bulbs come on and they get it. Yes. And as we said, there is something scary to experiment. There is some fear behind that. Absolutely. Do you know the fear? The noise from the car nearby keeps cutting you. Yeah, it's really interesting because it's there. But at a certain time it can block you, like in this situation. But this is also something that is part of the process. Sometimes there is FEAR about the randomness. If I get too much randomness, it will throw me out of my way. This is maybe the fear I am trying to control with the process. And I use randomness many times as a fuel to my art, to bring me to something new. I often wonder about the process and if it's something you think about because I sometimes think that randomness can lead you to something that you never thought about. But on the other hand, you seem to have a lot of control over it, which is more than I have. I guess control is variable and depends on what you are doing and where. Because for me when you create something, there is a lot of randomness at different steps in the process. I have a lot of things I want to bring from my imagination. To give an example, I have like 5G on my board. And over the month, minute by minute, I take an idea from this process and kind of plug it in into something bigger. There is many ways you can do that, like random ways, many logos and creation processes that untangle them with my imagination triggering an objective for me, which for me is really fascinating. Yeah, I totally agree This is the same path as a lot of artists. You start with randomness and you create from that stuff. That doesn't surprise me. For me, something is fascinating and seems like a breakthrough into randomness. From your perspective, Sharon, how would you feel if you had your imagination connected to an AE? Because my feeling working on my art is always that I'm trying to find new process to see things differently. Interesting question. I mean, the first thing I would say is I don't know. I don't know what I'd do. So that's a correct answer. I don't know if I'd unleash all the creativity. Many people are also interested by this question because it's like a scary pathway also, people thinking about many times. This is true because suddenly people will be able to control your imagination. Yes, this could be a fear where we need to create some controls and a framework. Until now many people are scared about this. The concept of AI is a scary concept. But like anything, we can create something new from it. Let's embrace it instead of being scared, maybe. Yeah, that's exciting also. Yeah, I would be surprised to see brainwaves generating video output within a decade. Maybe less, maybe not for average person, but, like, it'll be happening. They've already done that for perception. Right. There was a team in China, I think, tracked 80% of what someone was looking at, but they haven't tried it yet. With imagination. That's something I'm quite keen to experiment with. But because you don't need the accuracy for art either, you just need something interesting. As long as it's private. I think if someone, like, plugged me in and everyone could see my imagination of the worst. Yeah. It'll be tinfoil hat time for real, man. Let's go. It'll be tinfoil. You'll need your tinfoil hat. Finally. Finally. It'll come in handy. I'll pull it out. I think that the future is prom
